Letter to FCPS about TJ Admissions By TJHSST Students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

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Yes! This!

If you don’t even want to solve differential equation, then why do you even want to go to TJ?

It is really confusing to me what you guys really want. You want to go to TJ, but you are not interested in what TJ has to offer, and you want to change TJ to what your base school. Why even bother then? Can you just leave those nerds alone to do what they want? TJ, after all, was created to be the Sacncturay for those nerds and Geeks in the first place .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing from the TJ students and I am frankly shocked that these decided to put their names on it. It's just not good writing. Their position is a defensible one but this is a poorly mounted defense at best.

The vast majority of students at TJ will not accept this change, and that's to be expected because they were admitted through a different process that told them that they were the best and brightest.

+1 to the letter being very poorly written.

to be fair it is a STEM school. I wonder if their college essays are equally well written; that could explain the annual disappointment at TJ

You might be on to something here....

+1

Very few Asians are lawyers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing from the TJ students and I am frankly shocked that these decided to put their names on it. It's just not good writing. Their position is a defensible one but this is a poorly mounted defense at best.

The vast majority of students at TJ will not accept this change, and that's to be expected because they were admitted through a different process that told them that they were the best and brightest.

+1 to the letter being very poorly written.

to be fair it is a STEM school. I wonder if their college essays are equally well written; that could explain the annual disappointment at TJ

You might be on to something here....

+1

Very few Asians are lawyers.

Very few Asians are politicians either. I certainly don’t see Asians being fairly represented in school board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing from the TJ students and I am frankly shocked that these decided to put their names on it. It's just not good writing. Their position is a defensible one but this is a poorly mounted defense at best.

The vast majority of students at TJ will not accept this change, and that's to be expected because they were admitted through a different process that told them that they were the best and brightest.

+1 to the letter being very poorly written.

to be fair it is a STEM school. I wonder if their college essays are equally well written; that could explain the annual disappointment at TJ

Their college essays might not be well written because their parents are immigrants and can't help. They don't have the luxury of English-speaking parents to help them. Maybe they should get a pass on it to level the playing field. See? Asian kids are not all privileged as you all think they are.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know the breakdown of Asian ethnicity at TJ? East Asian, South Asian, SE Asian. I don’t think it’s a monolithic group.

[Anonymous]

I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

Amy Chua, who wrote Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, is a Yale Law School professor.

The former US Attorney for the Southern District of New York was Prett Bharara.

The current VP Nominee for the Democrats is Kamala Harris, whose mother was Indian.

Another contender for the Democratic nomination was Andrew Yang, who went to Columbia Law School.

And so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think the reason more asian kids wants to go to TJ is the result of discrimination, not privilege.

Because in any other field that doesn’t have objective standards such as solving a differential equation, Asians are automatically perceived as less capable.

That’s probably why you don’t see Asian become lawyers or politicians.

Amy Chua, who wrote Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother, is a Yale Law School professor.

The former US Attorney for the Southern District of New York was Prett Bharara.

The current VP Nominee for the Democrats is Kamala Harris, whose mother was Indian.

Another contender for the Democratic nomination was Andrew Yang, who went to Columbia Law School.

And so on.

Obama was the president of the United States Of America. Therefore there is no discrimination against black people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know the breakdown of Asian ethnicity at TJ? East Asian, South Asian, SE Asian. I don’t think it’s a monolithic group.

For the class of 2024, it is very heavily Indian. I know that this is not a monolithic group, but that partially answers your question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

x10000000

Yes! This!

If you don’t want to solve differential equation? then why do you even want to go to TJ?

I don't want my Kid to solve the differential equations, and I don't want your Kid to solve them too, SAD

DD takes DE class at TJ now and tells me every day how she loves it. If she had to go to her base school, she probably could have graduated after 10th grade. Maybe that’s what other advanced kids should do in the future: if they don’t win the TJ lottery, just go to the base school and graduate earlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know the breakdown of Asian ethnicity at TJ? East Asian, South Asian, SE Asian. I don’t think it’s a monolithic group.

For the class of 2024, it is very heavily Indian. I know that this is not a monolithic group, but that partially answers your question.

I'd be interested in knowing the Indian percentage for 2024. Almost every student in my daughter's IBET is Indian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

x10000000

Yes! This!

If you don’t want to solve differential equation? then why do you even want to go to TJ?

I don't want my Kid to solve the differential equations, and I don't want your Kid to solve them too, SAD

DD takes DE class at TJ now and tells me every day how she loves it. If she had to go to her base school, she probably could have graduated after 10th grade. Maybe that’s what other advanced kids should do in the future: if they don’t win the TJ lottery, just go to the base school and graduate earlier.

Going to college at 15, 16? May not be mature enough or emotionally ready though.

Some people just can’t seem to understand. There are actually lots of kids at TJ who just love these kind of stuff and genially enjoying it. These kids need TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

x10000000

Yes! This!

If you don’t want to solve differential equation? then why do you even want to go to TJ?

I don't want my Kid to solve the differential equations, and I don't want your Kid to solve them too, SAD

DD takes DE class at TJ now and tells me every day how she loves it. If she had to go to her base school, she probably could have graduated after 10th grade. Maybe that’s what other advanced kids should do in the future: if they don’t win the TJ lottery, just go to the base school and graduate earlier.

Going to college at 15, 16? May not be mature enough or emotionally ready though.

Some people just can’t seem to understand. There are actually lots of kids at TJ who just love these kind of stuff and genially enjoying it. These kids need TJ.

Welp. You'll need to start coming up with a plan other than TJ to fill that "need."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not everyone belongs to TJ, those who don’t and get pushed in simply suffer, whether they are pushed in by overzealous parents or overzealous politicians. A differential equation doesn’t care what color of skin you have. Either you can solve it or you can’t.

You don't need to take differential equations in high school to succeed as a STEM major in college. TJ's goal should be to prepare high school kids for succeeding in STEM majors in college, not to make high school into college. I think that focus on making high school more like college instead of preparing kids to succeed in college is where TJ has gone off track and so is failing all except a small segment of the FCPS student body. Those who want a simulated college experience in high school should pay to have that privately and should not be able to use a public school for that purpose to the detriment of others.

x10000000

Yes! This!

If you don’t want to solve differential equation? then why do you even want to go to TJ?

I don't want my Kid to solve the differential equations, and I don't want your Kid to solve them too, SAD

DD takes DE class at TJ now and tells me every day how she loves it. If she had to go to her base school, she probably could have graduated after 10th grade. Maybe that’s what other advanced kids should do in the future: if they don’t win the TJ lottery, just go to the base school and graduate earlier.

Going to college at 15, 16? May not be mature enough or emotionally ready though.

Some people just can’t seem to understand. There are actually lots of kids at TJ who just love these kind of stuff and genially enjoying it. These kids need TJ.

Welp. You'll need to start coming up with a plan other than TJ to fill that "need."

Then people can “lottery” and destroy that one too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing from the TJ students and I am frankly shocked that these decided to put their names on it. It's just not good writing. Their position is a defensible one but this is a poorly mounted defense at best.

The vast majority of students at TJ will not accept this change, and that's to be expected because they were admitted through a different process that told them that they were the best and brightest.

+1 to the letter being very poorly written.

to be fair it is a STEM school. I wonder if their college essays are equally well written; that could explain the annual disappointment at TJ

You might be on to something here....

+1

Very few Asians are lawyers.

This stereotyping is false. I work with quite a few Asian lawyers. I think the letter is poorly written, but that doesn't mean all TJ kids can't write or that all Asians can't write.