Survey Results On MSDE Site - 94% of teachers voted for Virtual; 60% of Parents Voted for In Person

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Yes, this is not the survey that MCPS sent around. Those results have been tallied but MCPS WILL NOT release those results for some reason. Many parents have asked, including my PTA. When I said survey in regards to these results, I should have said a tally.

PTAs can file a Maryland Public Information request with MCPS and MCPS will have to release the results of the MCPS survey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Yes, this is not the survey that MCPS sent around. Those results have been tallied but MCPS WILL NOT release those results for some reason. Many parents have asked, including my PTA. When I said survey in regards to these results, I should have said a tally.

PTAs can file a Maryland Public Information request with MCPS and MCPS will have to release the results of the MCPS survey.

https://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/OpenGov%20Documents/whatisPIA.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/publicinfo/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. Yes, this is not the survey that MCPS sent around. Those results have been tallied but MCPS WILL NOT release those results for some reason. Many parents have asked, including my PTA. When I said survey in regards to these results, I should have said a tally.

PTAs can file a Maryland Public Information request with MCPS and MCPS will have to release the results of the MCPS survey.

https://www.marylandattorneygeneral.gov/OpenGov%20Documents/whatisPIA.pdf

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/publicinfo/

Actually, anyone can file a public information request... not just PTAs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Until the pandemic goes away I would like DL for my kid. My child is in a good MCPS program with a fantastic cohort so being in person at school works for him. But for the duration of the pandemic I would like DL.

Great! And everyone agrees that parents should have a CHOICE. Any parent who wants to choose DL for their child should have that option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with a survey like that is that it’s offering a free lunch. Something has to give between the lack of learning in remote school and the lack of revenue for the systems. The teachers should have been offered something like in-person for the traditional school year vs year round DL at the same pay. The parents should have been offered in-person with higher taxes vs DL with current taxes.

Last spring, I provided as much instruction as MCPS would allow. I offered to do additional live Zooms that were purely optional, but my principal said I could not because they conflicted with times that students were supposed to be at lunch or allow siblings to use a shared device. The other option was to offer these supplementary Zooms after 4 pm when my own family needed me.

And I was working until 11:00pm every night for my job because I had to spend my days teaching my children since their teachers weren’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with a survey like that is that it’s offering a free lunch. Something has to give between the lack of learning in remote school and the lack of revenue for the systems. The teachers should have been offered something like in-person for the traditional school year vs year round DL at the same pay. The parents should have been offered in-person with higher taxes vs DL with current taxes.

Last spring, I provided as much instruction as MCPS would allow. I offered to do additional live Zooms that were purely optional, but my principal said I could not because they conflicted with times that students were supposed to be at lunch or allow siblings to use a shared device. The other option was to offer these supplementary Zooms after 4 pm when my own family needed me.

And I was working until 11:00pm every night for my job because I had to spend my days teaching my children since their teachers weren’t.

Does that mean that you are fair and accurate when you accuse every teacher of being lazy last spring?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until the pandemic goes away I would like DL for my kid. My child is in a good MCPS program with a fantastic cohort so being in person at school works for him. But for the duration of the pandemic I would like DL.

Great! And everyone agrees that parents should have a CHOICE. Any parent who wants to choose DL for their child should have that option.

I agree. And parents who select DL should be assured that their children are assigned DL only teachers whose attention is not divided between 15 students in a physical classroom and 15 students on a screen.
No one would ever agree to allow someone to babysit 2 kids in person and then their two kids in another house via Zoom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Until the pandemic goes away I would like DL for my kid. My child is in a good MCPS program with a fantastic cohort so being in person at school works for him. But for the duration of the pandemic I would like DL.

Great! And everyone agrees that parents should have a CHOICE. Any parent who wants to choose DL for their child should have that option.

I agree. And parents who select DL should be assured that their children are assigned DL only teachers whose attention is not divided between 15 students in a physical classroom and 15 students on a screen.
No one would ever agree to allow someone to babysit 2 kids in person and then their two kids in another house via Zoom.

This is the problem though, isn’t it? Schools promised both, and how were they going to do that effectively without hiring more teachers? You’re creating double the class sections by only allowing half of the students in a room at once, and who’s teaching the other half? If they’d been realistic from the beginning they would have said it’s all or nothing for reopening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with a survey like that is that it’s offering a free lunch. Something has to give between the lack of learning in remote school and the lack of revenue for the systems. The teachers should have been offered something like in-person for the traditional school year vs year round DL at the same pay. The parents should have been offered in-person with higher taxes vs DL with current taxes.

Last spring, I provided as much instruction as MCPS would allow. I offered to do additional live Zooms that were purely optional, but my principal said I could not because they conflicted with times that students were supposed to be at lunch or allow siblings to use a shared device. The other option was to offer these supplementary Zooms after 4 pm when my own family needed me.

And I was working until 11:00pm every night for my job because I had to spend my days teaching my children since their teachers weren’t.

Does that mean that you are fair and accurate when you accuse every teacher of being lazy last spring?

I am not accusing every teacher of being lazy. I am trying to point out to this teacher that it’s great that she had a choice to stop her work day at 4pm but she needs to realize that these choices had consequences for parents. It would be nice if even one of these privileged teachers could be the tiniest bit apologetic to parents. Evidently no one else but teachers have to balance work and family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with a survey like that is that it’s offering a free lunch. Something has to give between the lack of learning in remote school and the lack of revenue for the systems. The teachers should have been offered something like in-person for the traditional school year vs year round DL at the same pay. The parents should have been offered in-person with higher taxes vs DL with current taxes.

Last spring, I provided as much instruction as MCPS would allow. I offered to do additional live Zooms that were purely optional, but my principal said I could not because they conflicted with times that students were supposed to be at lunch or allow siblings to use a shared device. The other option was to offer these supplementary Zooms after 4 pm when my own family needed me.

And I was working until 11:00pm every night for my job because I had to spend my days teaching my children since their teachers weren’t.

Does that mean that you are fair and accurate when you accuse every teacher of being lazy last spring?

I am not accusing every teacher of being lazy. I am trying to point out to this teacher that it’s great that she had a choice to stop her work day at 4pm but she needs to realize that these choices had consequences for parents. It would be nice if even one of these privileged teachers could be the tiniest bit apologetic to parents. Evidently no one else but teachers have to balance work and family.

If a teacher has to be available during their regular hours, and they have children they need to attend to after that, they’re also supposed to be available for you at all hours? Why should they apologize for drawing a line between their work and their families?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with a survey like that is that it’s offering a free lunch. Something has to give between the lack of learning in remote school and the lack of revenue for the systems. The teachers should have been offered something like in-person for the traditional school year vs year round DL at the same pay. The parents should have been offered in-person with higher taxes vs DL with current taxes.

Last spring, I provided as much instruction as MCPS would allow. I offered to do additional live Zooms that were purely optional, but my principal said I could not because they conflicted with times that students were supposed to be at lunch or allow siblings to use a shared device. The other option was to offer these supplementary Zooms after 4 pm when my own family needed me.

And I was working until 11:00pm every night for my job because I had to spend my days teaching my children since their teachers weren’t.

Does that mean that you are fair and accurate when you accuse every teacher of being lazy last spring?

I am not accusing every teacher of being lazy. I am trying to point out to this teacher that it’s great that she had a choice to stop her work day at 4pm but she needs to realize that these choices had consequences for parents. It would be nice if even one of these privileged teachers could be the tiniest bit apologetic to parents. Evidently no one else but teachers have to balance work and family.

Except it was not teachers choosing to limit the window of instruction before the evening. You attended to your child’s needs first and then took care of work. What if your boss had refused to allow you do your work after 6 PM? How would you have handled it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with a survey like that is that it’s offering a free lunch. Something has to give between the lack of learning in remote school and the lack of revenue for the systems. The teachers should have been offered something like in-person for the traditional school year vs year round DL at the same pay. The parents should have been offered in-person with higher taxes vs DL with current taxes.

Last spring, I provided as much instruction as MCPS would allow. I offered to do additional live Zooms that were purely optional, but my principal said I could not because they conflicted with times that students were supposed to be at lunch or allow siblings to use a shared device. The other option was to offer these supplementary Zooms after 4 pm when my own family needed me.

And I was working until 11:00pm every night for my job because I had to spend my days teaching my children since their teachers weren’t.

Does that mean that you are fair and accurate when you accuse every teacher of being lazy last spring?

I am not accusing every teacher of being lazy. I am trying to point out to this teacher that it’s great that she had a choice to stop her work day at 4pm but she needs to realize that these choices had consequences for parents. It would be nice if even one of these privileged teachers could be the tiniest bit apologetic to parents. Evidently no one else but teachers have to balance work and family.

If a teacher has to be available during their regular hours, and they have children they need to attend to after that, they’re also supposed to be available for you at all hours? Why should they apologize for drawing a line between their work and their families?

+1. Do people actually mean or really think what they are saying? Do people run to a store after hours and demand them to open up? Geez.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at these results on page 14 at the link here:
http://marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2020/0728/MDRecoveryPlanJuly2020.pdf


4% of teachers voted for in person; 93% for virtual and 1% hybrid
58% of parents voted for in person; 27% virtual and 1% hybrid
50% of students voted for in person; 17% voted for virtual and 0% hybrid

*These numbers don't add up to 100% because some people just responded with other questions or alternative propossals.

There is a Maryland Board of Education Meeting on Tuesday - you can submit comments in advance and also call. in The counties plans are NOT finalized. Make your voices heard, however you feel.

Fortunately this is a public health issue not a popularity contest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at these results on page 14 at the link here:
http://marylandpublicschools.org/stateboard/Documents/2020/0728/MDRecoveryPlanJuly2020.pdf


4% of teachers voted for in person; 93% for virtual and 1% hybrid
58% of parents voted for in person; 27% virtual and 1% hybrid
50% of students voted for in person; 17% voted for virtual and 0% hybrid

*These numbers don't add up to 100% because some people just responded with other questions or alternative propossals.

There is a Maryland Board of Education Meeting on Tuesday - you can submit comments in advance and also call. in The counties plans are NOT finalized. Make your voices heard, however you feel.

Fortunately this is a public health issue not a popularity contest.

Perfect response.

I used to think that US citizens are very reasonable, educated and caring/generous people until this pandemic hit. So sad.

They don’t seem to care for anyone other than their own and have no problems risking other people’s life for pushing F2F schooling, and not wearing masks. I still can’t comprehend what happened to my beloved country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with a survey like that is that it’s offering a free lunch. Something has to give between the lack of learning in remote school and the lack of revenue for the systems. The teachers should have been offered something like in-person for the traditional school year vs year round DL at the same pay. The parents should have been offered in-person with higher taxes vs DL with current taxes.

Last spring, I provided as much instruction as MCPS would allow. I offered to do additional live Zooms that were purely optional, but my principal said I could not because they conflicted with times that students were supposed to be at lunch or allow siblings to use a shared device. The other option was to offer these supplementary Zooms after 4 pm when my own family needed me.

And I was working until 11:00pm every night for my job because I had to spend my days teaching my children since their teachers weren’t.

Does that mean that you are fair and accurate when you accuse every teacher of being lazy last spring?

I am not accusing every teacher of being lazy. I am trying to point out to this teacher that it’s great that she had a choice to stop her work day at 4pm but she needs to realize that these choices had consequences for parents. It would be nice if even one of these privileged teachers could be the tiniest bit apologetic to parents. Evidently no one else but teachers have to balance work and family.

If a teacher has to be available during their regular hours, and they have children they need to attend to after that, they’re also supposed to be available for you at all hours? Why should they apologize for drawing a line between their work and their families?

+1. Do people actually mean or really think what they are saying? Do people run to a store after hours and demand them to open up? Geez.

What were regular hours during DL for teachers? They were a fraction of what they were. Why couldn’t the teacher attend to her kids when the principal said no classes due to lunch and conflicts with other classes?