New school in Palisades

[Anonymous]

Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

[Anonymous]

Eaton is crowded, right? How would kids from a Hearst get rezoned to Eaton?

There will be additional families in both schools from ongoing developments no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Crestwood grandfathering ends in like 2 years. Why is this even being thrown out? What solution does it provide?

[Anonymous]

Supposed at tomorrow’s final Council Budget meeting an amendment will be offered to eliminate the purchase by CM David Grosso.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Yup - the big Ward 3 crises is the HS capacity. A new middle school in a lousy location will do nothing to resolve that issue and could make it worse if that new MS fills up with OOB kids since it won't be utilized unless they wildly re-draw boundaries eg Mann gets moved there.

Moving Lafayette and Shepherd to McFarland & Roosevelt would solve the Wilson capacity issue and would not require building a new school or DCPS awkwardly re-drawing all of the WOTP boundaries.

The kids from Shepherd would have a decidedly shorter trip to school and even the Lafayette kids wouldn't really have a much longer trip. And in any case it would require a lot less travel than will be required for kids going to a school in a hard to reach corner of DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Yup - the big Ward 3 crises is the HS capacity. A new middle school in a lousy location will do nothing to resolve that issue and could make it worse if that new MS fills up with OOB kids since it won't be utilized unless they wildly re-draw boundaries eg Mann gets moved there.

Moving Lafayette and Shepherd to McFarland & Roosevelt would solve the Wilson capacity issue and would not require building a new school or DCPS awkwardly re-drawing all of the WOTP boundaries.

The kids from Shepherd would have a decidedly shorter trip to school and even the Lafayette kids wouldn't really have a much longer trip. And in any case it would require a lot less travel than will be required for kids going to a school in a hard to reach corner of DC.

And it would be a whole lot cheaper.

If the choices are ….. buy a new building at a location that does not really help or change feeder patterns ….. why is this even a discussion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Yup - the big Ward 3 crises is the HS capacity. A new middle school in a lousy location will do nothing to resolve that issue and could make it worse if that new MS fills up with OOB kids since it won't be utilized unless they wildly re-draw boundaries eg Mann gets moved there.

Moving Lafayette and Shepherd to McFarland & Roosevelt would solve the Wilson capacity issue and would not require building a new school or DCPS awkwardly re-drawing all of the WOTP boundaries.

The kids from Shepherd would have a decidedly shorter trip to school and even the Lafayette kids wouldn't really have a much longer trip. And in any case it would require a lot less travel than will be required for kids going to a school in a hard to reach corner of DC.

Both of them should be rezoned to Wells, not McFarland. Wells is much closer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Yup - the big Ward 3 crises is the HS capacity. A new middle school in a lousy location will do nothing to resolve that issue and could make it worse if that new MS fills up with OOB kids since it won't be utilized unless they wildly re-draw boundaries eg Mann gets moved there.

Moving Lafayette and Shepherd to McFarland & Roosevelt would solve the Wilson capacity issue and would not require building a new school or DCPS awkwardly re-drawing all of the WOTP boundaries.

The kids from Shepherd would have a decidedly shorter trip to school and even the Lafayette kids wouldn't really have a much longer trip. And in any case it would require a lot less travel than will be required for kids going to a school in a hard to reach corner of DC.

Not true. I just looked on Google Maps. From my SP home, Roosevelt is shown as a 10-min drive, while Deal is a 12-min drive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Move the Hardy kids to the new GDS campus and alleviate over crowding at deal-move some schools that serve Deal to Hardy?

That was my assumption. It's geographically awkward -- although PP that made the point about the bus lines -- buses can be moved.

Based on geography alone, it would make sense that we'd see Key, Hyde-Addison, and Mann go to the new MS.
Stoddert, Eaton, Hearst and Bancroft to Hardy, plus any Oyster kids that didn't want to go on to Adams.
Janney, Lafayette, Murch and Shepherd to Deal.

BUT that only moves Hearst and Bancroft out of Deal, which doesn't help much -- Hearst is small (50 kids per class) and won't really make a dent.

Maybe it would be better as a high school? Route ONLY Deal to Wilson, and route Hardy to a new HS?

I mean this is radical but it seems to me we need to split up the 2 biggest schools Janney and Lafayette from Deal -Stoddert to the new GDS site and then Janney to Hardy.

It makes absolutely no sense to remove Janney from Deal since those kids walk to Deal. Same with Murch. Traffic around Deal is already a nightmare. The last thing you want to do is make it worse.

[Anonymous]

I hate Grosso and can’t wait for his exit but does he actually have a point here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate Grosso and can’t wait for his exit but does he actually have a point here?

I trust Grosso on this. Cheh and Mendelson are the only ones to benefit from buying GDS lower school.

1. Both are up for reelection in 2022
2. Something in Ward 3 is better than nothing
3. Avoids Lab School/Palisades conflict
4. Avoids DPR/DCPS conflict over the Hardy field (not Old Hardy building)
5. Distracts from the bigger issue of Deal and Wilson

Did I miss anything?

[Anonymous]

W 3 is desperate for more school capacity. And this is one of the only possible locations.

But that location is a transportation nightmare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W 3 is desperate for more school capacity. And this is one of the only possible locations.

But that location is a transportation nightmare.

What happened to Black Lives Matter and racial equity? Black and brown families in DC are in crisis! Literally dying from inequality.

$50 million for 1 building in the least-affected Ward of DC?

Read July 15 report report from American Public Media on how the city failed Black and low income residents.

Shame on us!

I'd rather my kids go to school in trailers through high school than hoard more opportunity by getting a great deal on fancy space because GDS lost its for-profit private school buyer.

https://www.apmreports.org/story/2020/07/15/washington-dc-response-to-coronavirus

Black Lives Matter. Now prove it.

[Anonymous]

they could make it an application/ lottery school