College Placement Disappointment from Big 3 Grads?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Umm pp --have you been to Wisconsin in the winter? Wisco is a great school -- but many kids from some of the top suburban publics in this area go there. So, if someone is going to pay the big bucks for Maret -- they're probably hoping for something bigger


Umm pp -- yes, I did get that drift. I am curious, however, about whether the $350K is viewed as buying mainly great exmissions, versus a different education than is available in the local public.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We live in DC pp -- so I never considered public.


Then presumably you chose private because of the quality of the schools, not because of exmissions per se. If you are one of the two people so far who has said they wished they saved their money (not sure if that's you), then why do you think you wasted your money?
Anonymous
Umm pp -- yes, I did get that drift. I am curious, however, about whether the $350K is viewed as buying mainly great exmissions, versus a different education than is available in the local public.


Without "Ivy' exmissions the social network ends with Beauvoir ("pre-school and elementary") exmissions...and from prattling posts on this board, huge for those living in the D.C. area. That said, I'll take "Ivy" for my child.
Anonymous
I am reading alot of sad things here posted by a number of people and not sure if I am assuming these correctly. They are: 1. Child's intelligence and potential being measured by college acceptance. 2. Child being sent to private school with college acceptance being the prime rationale and not development of curious mind and training. 3. Child's success only being measured by where he got into college.

We are sending ours to private school to take advantage of resources not found in public schools and to develop a curious mind that loves to learn and explore. This is a quality we want him to have for his entire life and not every school offers this quality. Our goal of success is to have a happy, well-adjusted son who leans what he really wants to do in life and explores the world no matter how old he becomes.

I'm very sad in realizing that many parents will make thier children feel like failures because they didn't measure up to their parents' expectations. Expect to have an unhappy and frustrated child if this is the case.
Anonymous
I understand the poster was dissapointed after spending all that money. I am assuming the poster's child was a decent student with SAT scores that were within the range for UMD.

I am an ivy grad who went to good private schools. I loved college. That said, the ivy league is not the be all and the end all. The most important thing to teach your child is ethics and values. Sending your child to an ivy does not ensure they will be good citizens and valuable members of society. Private school classmate of mine went to one of the top ivies and became a financial star...until the securities and exchange commision caught up with her. Some people at my ivy were caught selling papers to classates. I knew someone from a top boarding school who got so caught up in the drug culture that he did not finish that ivy degree until years after his classmates. I have many more stories. This happens all over, not just the ivies, but my point is raising a good citizen is what really matters.
Anonymous
This is one of the saddest threads. "Social networking . . . exmissions . . . huge in DC so I'll take my Ivy." What are you talking about? My family has lived in DC for generations -- public and private school grads, Ivy and not -- and the idea that our lives are somehow second rate without social networking and Ivy degrees is pure bunk. Wow, I feel sorry for your kids. They thought their job was to grow up but turns out their job was to justify their parents investment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am reading alot of sad things here posted by a number of people and not sure if I am assuming these correctly. They are: 1. Child's intelligence and potential being measured by college acceptance. 2. Child being sent to private school with college acceptance being the prime rationale and not development of curious mind and training. 3. Child's success only being measured by where he got into college.

We are sending ours to private school to take advantage of resources not found in public schools and to develop a curious mind that loves to learn and explore. This is a quality we want him to have for his entire life and not every school offers this quality. Our goal of success is to have a happy, well-adjusted son who leans what he really wants to do in life and explores the world no matter how old he becomes.

I'm very sad in realizing that many parents will make thier children feel like failures because they didn't measure up to their parents' expectations. Expect to have an unhappy and frustrated child if this is the case.


Your statement that only private schools nurture curious minds reflects some biases of your own.

But on the main point, I think you're reading too much into some of these posts. My guess is that for many families, the child's happiness and love of learning come first, way ahead of other things. Exmissions may be an interest, but certainly not the only interest, and certainly not the primary interest, for most of us. But let's face it, exmissions are a valid interest (however far down the totem pole you place them), because a good college can help your kid, especially if he/she has fabulous profs and research labs that continue to nurture that love of learning we all prize.

So it's not mutually exclusive to say that you want to nurture a love of learning AND get good exmissions - both will help your kid in the long run. It just seems that whenever anybody raises exmissions, people start jumping all over them as if that must be all that's important to them.
Anonymous
nicely said pp -- nicely said
Anonymous
We are sending ours to private school to take advantage of resources not found in public schools and to develop a curious mind that loves to learn and explore. This is a quality we want him to have for his entire life and not every school offers this quality. Our goal of success is to have a happy, well-adjusted son who leans what he really wants to do in life and explores the world no matter how old he becomes.


Interesting observation...We, too, are sending our to public school to take advantage of resources not found in private schools....(diversity, competition on the big stage, stimulating and challenging curriculum particularly in math, technology and the sciences) ...

We sent the oldest to a top Ivy league school for the same reasons as stated by the poster.
Anonymous
am an ivy grad who went to good private schools. I loved college. That said, the ivy league is not the be all and the end all. The most important thing to teach your child is ethics and values. Sending your child to an ivy does not ensure they will be good citizens and valuable members of society. Private school classmate of mine went to one of the top ivies and became a financial star...until the securities and exchange commision caught up with her. Some people at my ivy were caught selling papers to classates. I knew someone from a top boarding school who got so caught up in the drug culture that he did not finish that ivy degree until years after his classmates. I have many more stories. This happens all over, not just the ivies, but my point is raising a good citizen is what really matters.



Agree wholeheartedly. Just like sending a child to the Big 3 or a private school is not the end all. That said, my child is enjoying Ivy and I enjoyed Ivy. I would not trade it in for other educational options.
Anonymous
This is one of the saddest threads. "Social networking . . . exmissions . . . huge in DC so I'll take my Ivy." What are you talking about? My family has lived in DC for generations -- public and private school grads, Ivy and not -- and the idea that our lives are somehow second rate without social networking and Ivy degrees is pure bunk. Wow, I feel sorry for your kids. They thought their job was to grow up but turns out their job was to justify their parents investment.


Hold your Ivy tears. There are others too who have no issue with the Ivy league. Just as others have no issue with private D.C. schools like Sidwell, STA, GDS, NCS and the like.


Anonymous
Education, and the price a family is willing to pay, is a no different investment than health care or other service or product. This is reality. Some people with wealth and generational trust funds may not appreciate the reality of most.
Anonymous
I see education as a very different investment than health care or other services pp. I told my daughter we'd pay for private school and now an Ivy; then, she'll have her own foundation to pay for her own house, healthcare, etc. We're building a foundation...that's a lot different than buying a service.

Your point about people on trustfunds not understanding what others go through is true. We're not on trustfunds and we bust our butts like many other Americans to do our part to try to keep the American Dream alive and well.
Anonymous
You are fortunate that you can pay for 12 years of private education and 4 more years of an Ivy. Some parents busts their butts and cannot pay for the education of their children. Your butt is no tougher than those that are busting and simply cannot afford it!

I took out educational loans despite my parents busting their tails. Will your children be saddled with educational loans?
Anonymous
15:06 - You made assumptions about our private school rationale that were not there. We were explaining OUR rationale for private school in comparison with those who send them there for other reasons. No ill thoughts re public schools.

Some people sent their kids to private for the social benefits. We do not. It is purely about education.

Maybe some posters need to be more clear - I am getting a definite vibe that labels are the most important thing.
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