So are any parks opening in VA tomorrow with Phase 1?

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

Typos...but it should track, be cautious a bit longer. Beauty treatments are not worth endangering yourself or others. Services will get safer, but they just are not. Anyone working in a spa right now is not feeling awesome about it.

I just got a mani pedi. I wore a mask. As soon as you walked in, you had to wash your hands. All the workers wore a mask and put new gloves on. A bag was put in the pedicure station. My technician also had a face shield. They added glass to all the manicure stations. I did not dry my nails and left after I was done.

You’re not getting it. That’s probably not enough to protect you, or anyone else there. The air is shared ALL DAY LONG, for every shift. At best they can uv the place at night. If there is no time the place is empty between patrons it is not possible to properly disinfect.

So should all salons shut down until a vaccine is available?

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

Typos...but it should track, be cautious a bit longer. Beauty treatments are not worth endangering yourself or others. Services will get safer, but they just are not. Anyone working in a spa right now is not feeling awesome about it.

I just got a mani pedi. I wore a mask. As soon as you walked in, you had to wash your hands. All the workers wore a mask and put new gloves on. A bag was put in the pedicure station. My technician also had a face shield. They added glass to all the manicure stations. I did not dry my nails and left after I was done.

You’re not getting it. That’s probably not enough to protect you, or anyone else there. The air is shared ALL DAY LONG, for every shift. At best they can uv the place at night. If there is no time the place is empty between patrons it is not possible to properly disinfect.

Any surface you touched needs to be bleached before the next patron. And the places you were need to be aired out prior to
next client. Not your concern, but it should be. Who was there immediately before you? Were they presymptomatic or asymptomatic and just NEEDED a mani pedi?

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

Typos...but it should track, be cautious a bit longer. Beauty treatments are not worth endangering yourself or others. Services will get safer, but they just are not. Anyone working in a spa right now is not feeling awesome about it.

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I just got a mani pedi. I wore a mask. As soon as you walked in, you had to wash your hands. All the workers wore a mask and put new gloves on. A bag was put in the pedicure station. My technician also had a face shield. They added glass to all the manicure stations. I did not dry my nails and left after I was done.

You’re not getting it. That’s probably not enough to protect you, or anyone else there. The air is shared ALL DAY LONG, for every shift. At best they can uv the place at night. If there is no time the place is empty between patrons it is not possible to properly disinfect.

So should all salons shut down until a vaccine is available?

No. But they should probably wait til we have a better handle on treatment, testing, and tracking.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

Typos...but it should track, be cautious a bit longer. Beauty treatments are not worth endangering yourself or others. Services will get safer, but they just are not. Anyone working in a spa right now is not feeling awesome about it.

I just got a mani pedi. I wore a mask. As soon as you walked in, you had to wash your hands. All the workers wore a mask and put new gloves on. A bag was put in the pedicure station. My technician also had a face shield. They added glass to all the manicure stations. I did not dry my nails and left after I was done.

You’re not getting it. That’s probably not enough to protect you, or anyone else there. The air is shared ALL DAY LONG, for every shift. At best they can uv the place at night. If there is no time the place is empty between patrons it is not possible to properly disinfect.

Any surface you touched needs to be bleached before the next patron. And the places you were need to be aired out prior to
next client. Not your concern, but it should be. Who was there immediately before you? Were they presymptomatic or asymptomatic and just NEEDED a mani pedi?

So no one should get a haircut?

2/3 of the country is partially open. The country is opening with or without you.

I went to a store for the first time today. I wore a mask and gloves as did 95% of everyone at the store. Store was not crowded.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

Typos...but it should track, be cautious a bit longer. Beauty treatments are not worth endangering yourself or others. Services will get safer, but they just are not. Anyone working in a spa right now is not feeling awesome about it.

I just got a mani pedi. I wore a mask. As soon as you walked in, you had to wash your hands. All the workers wore a mask and put new gloves on. A bag was put in the pedicure station. My technician also had a face shield. They added glass to all the manicure stations. I did not dry my nails and left after I was done.

You’re not getting it. That’s probably not enough to protect you, or anyone else there. The air is shared ALL DAY LONG, for every shift. At best they can uv the place at night. If there is no time the place is empty between patrons it is not possible to properly disinfect.

Any surface you touched needs to be bleached before the next patron. And the places you were need to be aired out prior to
next client. Not your concern, but it should be. Who was there immediately before you? Were they presymptomatic or asymptomatic and just NEEDED a mani pedi?

So no one should get a haircut?

2/3 of the country is partially open. The country is opening with or without you.

I went to a store for the first time today. I wore a mask and gloves as did 95% of everyone at the store. Store was not crowded.

You are looking at this from a consumer standpoint. And being very absolute. Waiting another month will only saves lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

New poster. Thank you, PP massage therapist, for doing the right thing even though it's a financial hit to you. My SIL is a massage therapist in another state, also at home now and very worried about her business, but she would say exactly what you said above -- the sanitation and safety practices truly needed for ANY form of personal services just don't exist right now. Unfortunately
and dangerously, neither the people posting here nor the salon owners who think they're "sanitary" want to hear that.

I wish people blathering and bleating about their utterly non-essential nails and hair would understand that no matter how many plexiglas barriers their nail salon puts up or how many bags it uses to cover stuff, the salons are still going to end up spreading the virus. But people posting here don't want to understand that like you and my SIL understand it, and they think that hair and nails are vital. They are the reason we will see spikes in infection and probably subsequent closures of businesses. Selfish and ignorant, and unwilling to learn or change their minds based on science.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

New poster. Thank you, PP massage therapist, for doing the right thing even though it's a financial hit to you. My SIL is a massage therapist in another state, also at home now and very worried about her business, but she would say exactly what you said above -- the sanitation and safety practices truly needed for ANY form of personal services just don't exist right now. Unfortunately
and dangerously, neither the people posting here nor the salon owners who think they're "sanitary" want to hear that.

I wish people blathering and bleating about their utterly non-essential nails and hair would understand that no matter how many plexiglas barriers their nail salon puts up or how many bags it uses to cover stuff, the salons are still going to end up spreading the virus. But people posting here don't want to understand that like you and my SIL understand it, and they think that hair and nails are vital. They are the reason we will see spikes in infection and probably subsequent closures of businesses. Selfish and ignorant, and unwilling to learn or change their minds based on science.

I have not gone to the grocery store for 2 months. The grocery store is probably the biggest hot spot with the most people. I will take my chances in getting a haircut. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

New poster. Thank you, PP massage therapist, for doing the right thing even though it's a financial hit to you. My SIL is a massage therapist in another state, also at home now and very worried about her business, but she would say exactly what you said above -- the sanitation and safety practices truly needed for ANY form of personal services just don't exist right now. Unfortunately
and dangerously, neither the people posting here nor the salon owners who think they're "sanitary" want to hear that.

I wish people blathering and bleating about their utterly non-essential nails and hair would understand that no matter how many plexiglas barriers their nail salon puts up or how many bags it uses to cover stuff, the salons are still going to end up spreading the virus. But people posting here don't want to understand that like you and my SIL understand it, and they think that hair and nails are vital. They are the reason we will see spikes in infection and probably subsequent closures of businesses. Selfish and ignorant, and unwilling to learn or change their minds based on science.

Thank you. I really appreciate your response. It was far more lucid than my own. It’s not easy to hold the line financially not being open for massage, but I care about the well being of my clients very much. It would be devastating to find that someone became ill from coming in to our office for bodywork. I miss being that place of comfort, but will wait til we have a more solid handle on safety to return. We need to know more about the quieter symptoms especially before opening massage back up. It’s not just about masks, face shields, and gloves.

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I have not gone to the grocery store for 2 months. The grocery store is probably the biggest hot spot with the most people. I will take my chances in getting a haircut. Thanks.

So here’s the thing, what you’re doing is banking on everyone else’s behavior, not your own.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t ask other people to give you mani/pedi a, hair cuts, massages, facials, etc. They are at risk and in high contact all day, even if you’re a quick in and out.

How do you expect the manicurist/hairstylist/etc. to pay rent and feed her children if you are demanding that no one give her business?

Do YOU have a paycheck right now?

Well, I’m a massage therapist. I’ve been without pay since mid March. So my viewpoint is prob closer to reality than someone wanting pampering. I understand the sanitation and safety practices involved for personal services right now. You really can’t perform any personal services safely though atm. The level off PPE, ventilation, and distancing does not currently exist in most spas/salons.

New poster. Thank you, PP massage therapist, for doing the right thing even though it's a financial hit to you. My SIL is a massage therapist in another state, also at home now and very worried about her business, but she would say exactly what you said above -- the sanitation and safety practices truly needed for ANY form of personal services just don't exist right now. Unfortunately
and dangerously, neither the people posting here nor the salon owners who think they're "sanitary" want to hear that.

I wish people blathering and bleating about their utterly non-essential nails and hair would understand that no matter how many plexiglas barriers their nail salon puts up or how many bags it uses to cover stuff, the salons are still going to end up spreading the virus. But people posting here don't want to understand that like you and my SIL understand it, and they think that hair and nails are vital. They are the reason we will see spikes in infection and probably subsequent closures of businesses. Selfish and ignorant, and unwilling to learn or change their minds based on science.

Thank you. I really appreciate your response. It was far more lucid than my own. It’s not easy to hold the line financially not being open for massage, but I care about the well being of my clients very much. It would be devastating to find that someone became ill from coming in to our office for bodywork. I miss being that place of comfort, but will wait til we have a more solid handle on safety to return. We need to know more about the quieter symptoms especially before opening massage back up. It’s not just about masks, face shields, and gloves.

Thank you pp. You sound like a great massage therapist who really cares about your clients.

There is a lot about this virus we don't know and no real coordinated national response yet.

I have an old friend who is a salon owner; she says she knows all about sanitation, etc... but has no plan to circulate the air more, get outside air in, or install extra air purification. What she does need is money to pay her mortgage, so she is excited about reopening.

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I hope you get very sick, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I know that NOVA is still in Phase 0. I know overnight camping is allowed.

How about normal parks? Will they open?

Overnight camps not allowed. How about day camps, specifically sports camps like golf, tennis and soccer?

DH really needs a haircut. So do our boys. And I would drive to get a mani/pedi.

Thinking of taking kids to either Stafford or Fauquier County to get some grooming done.

What is WRONG with you? The last thing those counties need are people from NoVa coming to their counties and spreading the virus. WTF?

I just want to get a mani pedi. I usually get one every 1-2 weeks. It is really not that big of a deal.


How lazy are you that you can't paint your own nails????
I have not been to a store in 2 months and have been a social distancing nazi. Relax.

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Personally, OP, I would not touch a nail salon with a ten foot pole. They are not well ventilated.

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You're not very smart, OP. The vast majority of salons are smaller than grocery stores, which means you are more likely to encounter any virus particles that could be floating around. And if you got a mani/pedi you were in the salon a while, even if you left before your nails were dry. Most people going to the grocery store aren't hanging out in there for an hour. And if it was anything like a typical salon, there were lots of conversations going on. More talking = more droplets. Most people don't walk around a grocery store continuously talking to other people.

But enjoy your nice nails that no one except you and all the other entitled jerks driving out of their way to go out in public will see. Keep telling yourself that you did it to support small businesses. What a load of sh*t.

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mani/pedi poster is gross.