China sacrificed Wuhan to save the world, and the World did nothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a name for threads of this kind? I wonder.

There's at least one poster who is trolling the Health and Medicine forum who is obviously not a native english speaker. They post frequently about COVID-related topics. I suspect that person started this thread, as well as these:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/869418.page
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/870127.page
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/869516.page

+1
Thank you for continuing to call out propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
As a research scientist in molecular genetics, I am respectful of China’s efforts and its sacrifice. The virus erupted there without warning, of course they fumbled at first. The fact they have a dismal human rights record and are not a democracy shouldn’t take away from the fact that they made an incredible effort to contain and mitigate the pandemic, then send supplies and battle-hardened experts to adbise other countries.

But this will become more apparent in a few months, when the West’s deplorable response is compared to Asian countries in general.

NP. As a PhD scientist in "something else that has nothing to do with this issue", I'm disgusted by China's efforts. They MADE this virus in their petri dish labs called wildlife markets, and they did NOT do everything possible to contain it. At an absolute minimum, they should have grounded ALL FLIGHTS. But they didn't. Some countries have been literally forced to do that now, in response to this pandemic - innocent countries.

And it's total BS that this "erupted there without warning". They've had multiple situations in recent years where new viruses have arisen from their food safety/hygiene practices, that all may have ended up global pandemics as well, and yet they have done NOTHING to stop this stuff from happening. This is a country where people used to leave their wanted newborn babies in trashcans to die because they feared their government so much. And yet the government has done nothing to stop wildlife markets.

It's absolutely outrageous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
As a research scientist in molecular genetics, I am respectful of China’s efforts and its sacrifice. The virus erupted there without warning, of course they fumbled at first. The fact they have a dismal human rights record and are not a democracy shouldn’t take away from the fact that they made an incredible effort to contain and mitigate the pandemic, then send supplies and battle-hardened experts to adbise other countries.

But this will become more apparent in a few months, when the West’s deplorable response is compared to Asian countries in general.

I don't care about your background as a research scientist in molecular genetics.

I do care that China lied to the world over the seriousness of the virus. I do care that China blatantly manipulated their data to hide the sheer extent of the virus spread and deaths, which is abundantly clear to anyone with an iota of sense. I do care that China is clearly pressuring WHO to play both politics regarding Taiwan and to cook their own books over the number of positive cases and deaths. I do care that much of the supplies China sent to Europe turned out to be defective and unreliable (google the Dutch recall of 600,000 defective masks, and Spain and the Czech Republic discovering the Chinese tests were unreliable and defective).

PP you replied to.

Well, even after the pandemic, after it’s clear that China has much lower fatalities than the USA, even counting the many thousands that they are not divulging, you will still believe that it is the big bad wolf.

I agree with you that economically and politically China is our biggest threat.
But not for this pandemic. No one was prepared. Some countries reacted or are reacting better than others. The USA is not on the list of most responsible countries, and it’s not morally correct to point fingers at others when our response had been abysmally insufficient.

China did move very impressively once the seniors in Beijing CPP figured out what was going on. We can credit them for that. But they own this virus outbreak. They knew from past virus outbreaks like SARS that their wet markets were highly dangerous places and a serious threat for future pandemics and they did nothing about it. And when COVID-19 did break out, China lied about it for a long time and they heavily manipulated their data to downplay the seriousness of it. We will never know the true death figures out of China but it is likely to be in the high multiples of the current 3,000 they claim. China has shown to the entire world they are not a trusted nor reliable partner. That is what matters, not some weird statement about not morally correct or pointing fingers or whatever.

[Anonymous]

I do think this entire ordeal is exposing *a lot* that we in the West need to address, but as for the virus, I'm blaming China. They caused it with unsafe practices, then they covered up, and if the media is to be believed, they might still be covering up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or better put, China did the hard, difficult thing to save China first, then to give the World a fighting chance. Sure, there was hiding at the beginning, but U.S. hid it as well. And what did most of the West do? Stopped a few planes from coming in. Even in mid March people flew from Italy and had no screening, or from other parts of the world. We had no test, no hospitals, no masks and ventilators orders, in other words nothing. Now, U.S. will be the one to kill the world's population. Hurrah for democracy!

I'm not sure what satisfaction you get from this critical condemnation of our country but rest assured as with every other crises and catastrophe that has weakened us momentarily it is democracy that has given us hope of succeeding by giving us the resilience to learn from our past mistakes and pull together to make the hard choices whereas time and time again aristocracy's and autocracy's have failed to prove that they are as stable or as strong. Believe what you want but know this - our democracy will survive and you are free to leave at any time and continue your existence in whatever monarchy or oligarchy in the world you deem more suitable for your tastes.
Good day.

Yep, it's true that there's nothing like a war or other crisis to unite people. I do think that this will unite the country a bit, as tragic as it is. God knows we need it.

[Anonymous]

Spain is sending thanks for the defective tests.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-spain-says-rapid-tests-sent-from-china-missing-cases-2020-3?op=1

[Anonymous]

This thread needs to be taken down.

Communist China propaganda!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spain is sending thanks for the defective tests.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-spain-says-rapid-tests-sent-from-china-missing-cases-2020-3?op=1

At least they were not infected with Covid 19 like those sent to UK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks, this is a wumao. A paid troll. They are known as the .50¢ army. They go around to message boards and social media and plant propaganda like this. Leave them be.

Exactly. Beware of infiltration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread needs to be taken down.

Communist China propaganda!

As a PP has pointed out, conveniently with links, this is far from the only troll thread out of China. We could ask Jeff to ban the IP address, but they likely are using multiple IPs.

[Anonymous]

I really don't want a single product from China anymore.

Thank God I'm not dependent on any inferior Chinese-made drug.

Always check to see where something is made before you buy it.

I'd rather make do without every time I can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I really don't want a single product from China anymore.

Thank God I'm not dependent on any inferior Chinese-made drug.

Always check to see where something is made before you buy it.

I'd rather make do without every time I can.

Coincidentally if you make a trip to Walmart and find one product that has not been made in china
I will give you a medal.

[Anonymous]

Why do we need dollar stores?

[Anonymous]

Lol sorry I can’t read past the subject line. Just no. Lol.

[Anonymous]

We definitely do not need dollar stores to sell a plastic basket to hold plastic flowers with the
three ugly roses painted on it.

Yet they are full of cr.... p like that that pollutes the water, the earth and then our land fields.