Does anyone know when COGAT results come out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the cutoff for the pool will be this year. Let me know if you hear it announced.

I have a 5th grader in AAP. When he was in 2nd grade the cutoff was 132 on NNAT or 132 Composite on the Cogat. Other years I had heard it was 132 on any Cogat section.

I have a 2nd grader now.

Last year, it was 132 or higher on any subcomponent of the Cogat or the composite Cogat score itself. I think my child got in the referral pool based on his quantitative score, which was much higher than the others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I am hoping to get this info soon so I can decide if doing a packet is worth it...

If you think your kid is above average and/or want your kid in AAP, it's always worth doing the packet. There have been numerous posters on this forum who said that they wouldn't have applied if they had seen the CogAT scores beforehand - and their kids got accepted into AAP. The process is holistic, and kids can get in with relatively low scores if the rest of the packet is strong. Even if your kid is in-pool, it's better to give the committee more info and a more complete picture of your kid.

It only takes about 30 minutes to fill out the parent referral and questionnaire forms. I don't understand why there's so much hand wringing over whether to do them or not.

True. I think the harder part is in selecting samples and explaining their significance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I am hoping to get this info soon so I can decide if doing a packet is worth it...

If you think your kid is above average and/or want your kid in AAP, it's always worth doing the packet. There have been numerous posters on this forum who said that they wouldn't have applied if they had seen the CogAT scores beforehand - and their kids got accepted into AAP. The process is holistic, and kids can get in with relatively low scores if the rest of the packet is strong. Even if your kid is in-pool, it's better to give the committee more info and a more complete picture of your kid.

It only takes about 30 minutes to fill out the parent referral and questionnaire forms. I don't understand why there's so much hand wringing over whether to do them or not.

Even if the CogAT scores are in-pool, it's worth completing the parent forms and sending in any really good work samples that you have. They say that something like 30% of in-pool students are NOT accepted so it's good to have some extra info in the package.

OP said she wanted to see if it was worth doing a packet. For a lot of people, it isn’t a matter of, oh my kid is in pool, I won’t bother, but more of the kid got a 105 on CogAT, it is highly, highly unlikely that kid will be admitted no matter how fabulous the packet, so why bother.

In this instance, you have to go with knowing what is best for your child. Most parents can assess if their child is on the cusp of consideration or if they are completely out of range. If they're not sure, and they're interested, they should go for it.

[Anonymous]

new to MCPS, when do the CogAT scores for all the 8th graders (who took the test last wknd-Dec 7th) come out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:new to MCPS, when do the CogAT scores for all the 8th graders (who took the test last wknd-Dec 7th) come out?

AAP is FCPS and I believe most of the conversation in this thread has been in regard to AAP in FCPS.

Which is my way of saying, no clue about MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Work samples do not have to be school work. We are counting on the school too turn in the school work type of work samples. We are looking at more of his engineering/construction projects using interesting building materials, examples of starting and completing a complex process that takes several days, and examples of strategic thinking. But none of that is tied to school work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I am hoping to get this info soon so I can decide if doing a packet is worth it...

If you think your kid is above average and/or want your kid in AAP, it's always worth doing the packet. There have been numerous posters on this forum who said that they wouldn't have applied if they had seen the CogAT scores beforehand - and their kids got accepted into AAP. The process is holistic, and kids can get in with relatively low scores if the rest of the packet is strong. Even if your kid is in-pool, it's better to give the committee more info and a more complete picture of your kid.

It only takes about 30 minutes to fill out the parent referral and questionnaire forms. I don't understand why there's so much hand wringing over whether to do them or not.

True. I think the harder part is in selecting samples and explaining their significance.

But you don't have to submit your own work samples. If your child is parent referred, the school puts together a packet complete with the GBRS's and work samples. You can choose to include your own work samples but you don't have to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:new to MCPS, when do the CogAT scores for all the 8th graders (who took the test last wknd-Dec 7th) come out?

AAP is FCPS and I believe most of the conversation in this thread has been in regard to AAP in FCPS.

Which is my way of saying, no clue about MCPS.

ok thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I am hoping to get this info soon so I can decide if doing a packet is worth it...

If you think your kid is above average and/or want your kid in AAP, it's always worth doing the packet. There have been numerous posters on this forum who said that they wouldn't have applied if they had seen the CogAT scores beforehand - and their kids got accepted into AAP. The process is holistic, and kids can get in with relatively low scores if the rest of the packet is strong. Even if your kid is in-pool, it's better to give the committee more info and a more complete picture of your kid.

It only takes about 30 minutes to fill out the parent referral and questionnaire forms. I don't understand why there's so much hand wringing over whether to do them or not.

True. I think the harder part is in selecting samples and explaining their significance.

But you don't have to submit your own work samples. If your child is parent referred, the school puts together a packet complete with the GBRS's and work samples. You can choose to include your own work samples but you don't have to.

PP here - true. However, if you have the opportunity to submit samples in addition to what the school submits that you feel are helpful, you should certainly pursue that.

[Anonymous]

Haven't received the COGAT scores yet. We had the WISC done because the NNAT was pretty terrible. How is a 131 on the WISC-V?

[Anonymous]

According to Dcum whether 131 is a good score or not depends on which sections have high scores. High scores in Memory and Processing apparently don’t count much. 132 was the cut off in previous years from what I read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to Dcum whether 131 is a good score or not depends on which sections have high scores. High scores in Memory and Processing apparently don’t count much. 132 was the cut off in previous years from what I read.

There is no WISC cutoff. 130 is equivalent to a 132 on CogAT because it is two full standard deviations above average. So 131 is slightly above that. It is considered gifted by any source. Except not always FCPS. Lol. What was the NNAT? Definitely submit the WISC if it is higher than the CogAT. If it is lower, you may want to hold it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haven't received the COGAT scores yet. We had the WISC done because the NNAT was pretty terrible. How is a 131 on the WISC-V?

131 is a great score, but the application process is holistic. There are no scores that will guarantee admission, and if the packet as a whole shows a significant weakness in either language arts or math, your child is more likely to get rejected even with a high overall WISC. I hope the WISC VCI and FRI are high, since those scores seem to be the most important to the committee.

[Anonymous]

so, going back to the original post - does anyone know when the cogat results are expected this year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so, going back to the original post - does anyone know when the cogat results are expected this year?

No. No one knows. It will be sometime between now and mid January.