Sorry, but this bad behavior is not a High Crime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is why we need to bring back civics in high school. Or OP is Russian.

+1

I'm a pretty good civics student. Political science major fwiw.

Out of 60 or so presidential terms, there have been 4 impeachment inquiries, 0 convictions, and lots and lots of political scandals and bad acts. The ACT has to be so bad that it rises above partisanship and the president's own party clearly recognizes the bad behavior and the danger to the country. This doesn't qualify.

The fact that we all know that the Senate is not going to convict, that there really isn't even a chance for the Senate to convict, means by definition it is not a high crime. unless you truly think that a majority of the Senate, the most politically insulated office holders in our entire country other than judges, are evil brainwashed people. That is absurd.

It would qualify if we hadn't let so much money into politics.

They are evil and they are bought. Period.

Guns
Health care costs
Labor protections
Taxation

They have proven over and over again that they DO NOT CARE about people. They care about money and power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is why we need to bring back civics in high school. Or OP is Russian.

+1

I'm a pretty good civics student. Political science major fwiw.

Out of 60 or so presidential terms, there have been 4 impeachment inquiries, 0 convictions, and lots and lots of political scandals and bad acts. The ACT has to be so bad that it rises above partisanship and the president's own party clearly recognizes the bad behavior and the danger to the country. This doesn't qualify.

The fact that we all know that the Senate is not going to convict, that there really isn't even a chance for the Senate to convict, means by definition it is not a high crime. unless you truly think that a majority of the Senate, the most politically insulated office holders in our entire country other than judges, are evil brainwashed people. That is absurd.

No it doesn't. And yes, the Republicans in the Senate are shameless partisans without any moral core whatsoever. That much has been made clear these past few years and I agree it is absurd - to think that these people love their own party more than they love their country, to realize they have no shame and no core convictions other than desire to stay in power. It's a disgrace and history will not look kindly on them, just as it does not look kindly on the politicians who supported segregation and other horrible things from our past.

[Anonymous]

It’s a disgrace to the Presidency as well as to American values. Does not make America great. And by the way it’s also a crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it's inappropriate. I'm not sure if criminal, more sloppy incompetence.

But it's not impeachable, and there is zero chance for the Senate to convict.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being an impeachable high crime and 1 being jaywalking, this is maybe a 6 or 7.

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Meaning I don't have sincere beliefs? No. Meaning my opinion isn't shared by millions including a majority of the Senate? No.

Reading the group think here I did think it important to present the majority opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is why we need to bring back civics in high school. Or OP is Russian.

+1

I'm a pretty good civics student. Political science major fwiw.

Out of 60 or so presidential terms, there have been 4 impeachment inquiries, 0 convictions, and lots and lots of political scandals and bad acts. The ACT has to be so bad that it rises above partisanship and the president's own party clearly recognizes the bad behavior and the danger to the country. This doesn't qualify.

The fact that we all know that the Senate is not going to convict, that there really isn't even a chance for the Senate to convict, means by definition it is not a high crime. unless you truly think that a majority of the Senate, the most politically insulated office holders in our entire country other than judges, are evil brainwashed people. That is absurd.

You might need to give that degree back. Just sayin'. Your argument is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it's inappropriate. I'm not sure if criminal, more sloppy incompetence.

But it's not impeachable, and there is zero chance for the Senate to convict.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being an impeachable high crime and 1 being jaywalking, this is maybe a 6 or 7.

T R O L L[/quote

Meaning I don't have sincere beliefs? No. Meaning my opinion isn't shared by millions including a majority of the Senate? No.

Reading the group think here I did think it important to present the majority opinion.

1. Don't forget that the majority Senate opinion does not reflect the majority of Americans.

2. These Senators largely have the same opinion as the American majority, but again, they have been bought. How they will vote =/= what they truly believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is why we need to bring back civics in high school. Or OP is Russian.

+1

I'm a pretty good civics student. Political science major fwiw.

Out of 60 or so presidential terms, there have been 4 impeachment inquiries, 0 convictions, and lots and lots of political scandals and bad acts. The ACT has to be so bad that it rises above partisanship and the president's own party clearly recognizes the bad behavior and the danger to the country. This doesn't qualify.

The fact that we all know that the Senate is not going to convict, that there really isn't even a chance for the Senate to convict, means by definition it is not a high crime. unless you truly think that a majority of the Senate, the most politically insulated office holders in our entire country other than judges, are evil brainwashed people. That is absurd.

If you think Moscow Mitch would ever acknowledge that his party's president has put the country in danger, if in doing so that means Democrats win something, I have a bridge to sell you.

No one believes that. Not even Republicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it's inappropriate. I'm not sure if criminal, more sloppy incompetence.

But it's not impeachable, and there is zero chance for the Senate to convict.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being an impeachable high crime and 1 being jaywalking, this is maybe a 6 or 7.

T R O L L[/quote

Meaning I don't have sincere beliefs? No. Meaning my opinion isn't shared by millions including a majority of the Senate? No.

Reading the group think here I did think it important to present the majority opinion.

Sorry, the majority of people polled say he should be not just impeached, but impeached and removed. 48.5% vs 45.7%

[Anonymous]

Sorry, the majority of people polled say he should be not just impeached, but impeached and removed. 48.5% vs 45.7%

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/public_approval_of_the_impeachment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it's inappropriate. I'm not sure if criminal, more sloppy incompetence.

But it's not impeachable, and there is zero chance for the Senate to convict.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being an impeachable high crime and 1 being jaywalking, this is maybe a 6 or 7.

T R O L L[/quote

Meaning I don't have sincere beliefs? No. Meaning my opinion isn't shared by millions including a majority of the Senate? No.

Reading the group think here I did think it important to present the majority opinion.

1. Don't forget that the majority Senate opinion does not reflect the majority of Americans.

2. These Senators largely have the same opinion as the American majority, but again, they have been bought. How they will vote =/= what they truly believe.

You KNOW the senators have not been bought. They have six year terms and few if any are Trumpers. The best thing by far for Republicans would be to force Trump to resign and get Nikki Haley to run in 2020. It would be a landslide. So this is not naked partisanship. the majority opinion is that this is an inappropriate act that does not rise to the level of a high crime under the Constitution. That is not a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, the majority of people polled say he should be not just impeached, but impeached and removed. 48.5% vs 45.7%

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/public_approval_of_the_impeachment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

Lol. One poll with a margin of error outside of a razor thin result? You think 46% are Russian spies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it's inappropriate. I'm not sure if criminal, more sloppy incompetence.

But it's not impeachable, and there is zero chance for the Senate to convict.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being an impeachable high crime and 1 being jaywalking, this is maybe a 6 or 7.

T R O L L[/quote

Meaning I don't have sincere beliefs? No. Meaning my opinion isn't shared by millions including a majority of the Senate? No.

Reading the group think here I did think it important to present the majority opinion.

1. Don't forget that the majority Senate opinion does not reflect the majority of Americans.

2. These Senators largely have the same opinion as the American majority, but again, they have been bought. How they will vote =/= what they truly believe.

You KNOW the senators have not been bought. They have six year terms and few if any are Trumpers. The best thing by far for Republicans would be to force Trump to resign and get Nikki Haley to run in 2020. It would be a landslide. So this is not naked partisanship. the majority opinion is that this is an inappropriate act that does not rise to the level of a high crime under the Constitution. That is not a troll.

I'm sorry. Are you trying to say that American politicians have NOT been bought by special interests (which includes the NRA which = Russia)???

[Anonymous]

Again, majority favors impeachment and removal.

There is no other explanation for the senators to not stand up to trump as he destroys our national security, unless many of them are beholden to Putin via NRA donations and plants in their home states (cough McConnell) and other Russian money, and the rest are too chickenshit to vote on their conscience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, the majority of people polled say he should be not just impeached, but impeached and removed. 48.5% vs 45.7%

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/public_approval_of_the_impeachment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

Lol. One poll with a margin of error outside of a razor thin result? You think 46% are Russian spies?

That poll data is from before the public hearings - when the republicans were destroyed and left flapping their gums like fish at the hearings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, majority favors impeachment and removal.

There is no other explanation for the senators to not stand up to trump as he destroys our national security, unless many of them are beholden to Putin via NRA donations and plants in their home states (cough McConnell) and other Russian money, and the rest are too chickenshit to vote on their conscience.

The paranoia over Russia just kills me. I vividly remember Obama mocking Senator Romney for mentioning Russia as a severe threat.