Boundary Study

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not pp but I’ll tell you why all schools should be diverse. Because the opposite of all schools being diverse is all schools being basically homogeneous. And when all schools are homogeneous, the schools that are white/Asian end up with better resources [b]than the schools that are black/Hispanic. They have PTAs that raise $100k a year, they have dozens of after-school activities, etc. Meanwhile at the poorer schools, teachers are forced to send out GoFundMe’s to their family and friends to supply their classrooms. It’s called “separate but equal,” and it never really ended.

This is ridiculous.

Can you explain why you feel that all White/Asian families in MCPS are rich and 'have more resources'? Do you really think all the Asian families in MCPS are wealthy? There are PLENTY of lower-income Asian kids in Montgomery County. Plenty.

And, we are at a Focus school. None of our teachers have ever sent out GoFundMe's. We actually get a good amount of extra money and resources from MCPS. We have smaller class sizes. The teachers do a ton of outreach to the lower income apartments in our cluster.

Lower income students in MCPS are given plenty of opportunity to succeed if they choose to. Families that do take advantage of these programs will see their kids doing well.

Simply busing kids to different schools will NOT fix the Achievement Gap for MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn't that the parents at the W schools don't want minorities. They don't want any poor people. They are not fighting racial diversity; they are fighting economic diversity. They (wrongly) believe that poorer families don't deserve access to better resources and better schools. They want to keep those things for themselves.

This is so very deeply offensive because it's grossly untrue. I live in a "W" school and not a single person I know thinks / feels or believes this. While you are off accusing parents here of this foul rhetoric go and actually talk to people. The one and only reason I have heard and quite frankly agree with is I want me kid to go the the school closest to our home only because I don't want them on a bus in traffic and wasting time. I want them to be able to walk or ride their bikes to school / sports/ friends houses. To be able to carpool to events / sports etc for my kids without spending hours in the car. I know people whose kids have to take the bus to Pyle but live directly across the street from Westland and would prefer their kids go there.

Stop with the broad brush insults and condensation. It's just not true. What an asshole you are for stating "they believe poor families...." What a load of crap. You have no idea what I and others have dedicated our lives to, believe in and advocate for. Get off this forum and instead of insulting people you don't know or understand do something constructive about it.

+ 1 million

And, I'm not a W parent. I'm a minority parent in a non-W cluster who finds this type of rhetoric so offensive and disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This is ridiculous.

Can you explain why you feel that all White/Asian families in MCPS are rich and 'have more resources'? Do you really think all the Asian families in MCPS are wealthy? There are PLENTY of lower-income Asian kids in Montgomery County. Plenty.

And, we are at a Focus school. None of our teachers have ever sent out GoFundMe's. We actually get a good amount of extra money and resources from MCPS. We have smaller class sizes. The teachers do a ton of outreach to the lower income apartments in our cluster.

Lower income students in MCPS are given plenty of opportunity to succeed if they choose to. Families that do take advantage of these programs will see their kids doing well.

Simply busing kids to different schools will NOT fix the Achievement Gap for MCPS.

Who is saying that it will? I haven't heard anybody saying that it will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not pp but I’ll tell you why all schools should be diverse. Because the opposite of all schools being diverse is all schools being basically homogeneous. And when all schools are homogeneous, the schools that are white/Asian end up with better resources than the schools that are black/Hispanic. They have PTAs that raise $100k a year, they have dozens of after-school activities, etc. Meanwhile at the poorer schools, teachers are forced to send out GoFundMe’s to their family and friends to supply their classrooms. It’s called “separate but equal,” and it never really ended.

There are no high schools in MCPS that are homogeneous. They do have different types of diversity and more money gets spent on the schools with more poor, black and Hispanic kids, who benefit from being part of the same county-wide system.

It is interesting that any discussion about increasing diversity among local schools quickly devolves into a complaint about income distribution. The discussion about school boundaries is just a proxy for leftists who want to redistribute family wealth more than educational resources within MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

DP

Can you explain why you think this?

I’m not White an my kids attend a non-W school. I don’t care at all how ‘diverse’ my kids school is. I want good teachers, a solid curriculum and small class sizes.

We are an interracial family and my kids get ‘diversity’ in our own family. I don’t care what color/race/religion my kids’ teachers are. I don’t care what color/race/religion my kids’ friends are.

Why does it matter?

Because part of a child's education is growing up in society - not a little bubble. That goes for kids from affluent families as well as kids from poor families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not pp but I’ll tell you why all schools should be diverse. Because the opposite of all schools being diverse is all schools being basically homogeneous. And when all schools are homogeneous, the schools that are white/Asian end up with better resources than the schools that are black/Hispanic. They have PTAs that raise $100k a year, they have dozens of after-school activities, etc. Meanwhile at the poorer schools, teachers are forced to send out GoFundMe’s to their family and friends to supply their classrooms. It’s called “separate but equal,” and it never really ended.

There are no high schools in MCPS that are homogeneous. They do have different types of diversity and more money gets spent on the schools with more poor, black and Hispanic kids, who benefit from being part of the same county-wide system.

It is interesting that any discussion about increasing diversity among local schools quickly devolves into a complaint about income distribution. The discussion about school boundaries is just a proxy for leftists who want to redistribute family wealth more than educational resources within MCPS.

It's interesting that you interpret "let's analyze boundaries to see whether we can reduce overcrowding and increase diversity through boundary adjustments" as "let's take money away from rich people".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not pp but I’ll tell you why all schools should be diverse. Because the opposite of all schools being diverse is all schools being basically homogeneous. And when all schools are homogeneous, the schools that are white/Asian end up with better resources than the schools that are black/Hispanic. They have PTAs that raise $100k a year, they have dozens of after-school activities, etc. Meanwhile at the poorer schools, teachers are forced to send out GoFundMe’s to their family and friends to supply their classrooms. It’s called “separate but equal,” and it never really ended.

There are no high schools in MCPS that are homogeneous. They do have different types of diversity and more money gets spent on the schools with more poor, black and Hispanic kids, who benefit from being part of the same county-wide system.

It is interesting that any discussion about increasing diversity among local schools quickly devolves into a complaint about income distribution. The discussion about school boundaries is just a proxy for leftists who want to redistribute family wealth more than educational resources within MCPS.

It's interesting that you interpret "let's analyze boundaries to see whether we can reduce overcrowding and increase diversity through boundary adjustments" as "let's take money away from rich people".

It’s interesting that you ignored that the complaint in the PP was about how much PTAs were raising rather than about how much MCPS is spending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not pp but I’ll tell you why all schools should be diverse. Because the opposite of all schools being diverse is all schools being basically homogeneous. And when all schools are homogeneous, the schools that are white/Asian end up with better resources than the schools that are black/Hispanic. They have PTAs that raise $100k a year, they have dozens of after-school activities, etc. Meanwhile at the poorer schools, teachers are forced to send out GoFundMe’s to their family and friends to supply their classrooms. It’s called “separate but equal,” and it never really ended.

There are no high schools in MCPS that are homogeneous. They do have different types of diversity and more money gets spent on the schools with more poor, black and Hispanic kids, who benefit from being part of the same county-wide system.

It is interesting that any discussion about increasing diversity among local schools quickly devolves into a complaint about income distribution. The discussion about school boundaries is just a proxy for leftists who want to redistribute family wealth more than educational resources within MCPS.

It's interesting that you interpret "let's analyze boundaries to see whether we can reduce overcrowding and increase diversity through boundary adjustments" as "let's take money away from rich people".

It’s interesting that you ignored that the complaint in the PP was about how much PTAs were raising rather than about how much MCPS is spending.

It's a valid complaint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not pp but I’ll tell you why all schools should be diverse. Because the opposite of all schools being diverse is all schools being basically homogeneous. And when all schools are homogeneous, the schools that are white/Asian end up with better resources than the schools that are black/Hispanic. They have PTAs that raise $100k a year, they have dozens of after-school activities, etc. Meanwhile at the poorer schools, teachers are forced to send out GoFundMe’s to their family and friends to supply their classrooms. It’s called “separate but equal,” and it never really ended.

There are no high schools in MCPS that are homogeneous. They do have different types of diversity and more money gets spent on the schools with more poor, black and Hispanic kids, who benefit from being part of the same county-wide system.

It is interesting that any discussion about increasing diversity among local schools quickly devolves into a complaint about income distribution. The discussion about school boundaries is just a proxy for leftists who want to redistribute family wealth more than educational resources within MCPS.

It's interesting that you interpret "let's analyze boundaries to see whether we can reduce overcrowding and increase diversity through boundary adjustments" as "let's take money away from rich people".

It’s interesting that you ignored that the complaint in the PP was about how much PTAs were raising rather than about how much MCPS is spending.

It's a valid complaint.

MCPS does NOT allow PTA money to hire classroom aid, purchase school equipment, and improve school facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

MCPS does NOT allow PTA money to hire classroom aid, purchase school equipment, and improve school facilities.

MCPS does not allow PTA money to hire classroom aides. MCPS does allow PTA money to buy school equipment and improve school facilities.

[Anonymous]

So when the federal government or mcps gives extra money to title 1 and focus schools for smaller class sizes and other added benefits that is ok, but when parents raise the money for added benefits that is not ok? Do you see the irony?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So when the federal government or mcps gives extra money to title 1 and focus schools for smaller class sizes and other added benefits that is ok, but when parents raise the money for added benefits that is not ok? Do you see the irony?

I really don’t see irony there at all. The federal government is paying to get some less fortunate kids barely to first base when the rich kids were born on third.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It isn't that the parents at the W schools don't want minorities. They don't want any poor people. They are not fighting racial diversity; they are fighting economic diversity. They (wrongly) believe that poorer families don't deserve access to better resources and better schools. They want to keep those things for themselves.

The rich parents are the better resource you speak of, they feel they have enough of you clamoring for their residuals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So when the federal government or mcps gives extra money to title 1 and focus schools for smaller class sizes and other added benefits that is ok, but when parents raise the money for added benefits that is not ok? Do you see the irony?

No, I don't see any irony. The federal government and MCPS provide extra funding to Title I and focus schools because lots of kids at those schools have extra needs. Your DCUM-demographic kids don't have those extra needs. That's something for you to be grateful for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It isn't that the parents at the W schools don't want minorities. They don't want any poor people. They are not fighting racial diversity; they are fighting economic diversity. They (wrongly) believe that poorer families don't deserve access to better resources and better schools. They want to keep those things for themselves.

The rich parents are the better resource you speak of, they feel they have enough of you clamoring for their residuals

+1.

When my kids in W school pass state exam with a 5, they and they peers make their school a good school.

If you bus all the students in Burning tree ES to any title one ES in MCPS, that school will become a 9-10 School immefiately. Students make school, not the other way around.
Please ask why Jashua Starr chose to live in Burning Tree ES district when he moved to MCPS and why Obama did not send his children to DC public schools. Why didn't Obama buy/rent a house in SE DC when he left WH? Why so many of the progressive young couples moved to MC from DC once their kids are ES age? Parents look after their kids first. They talk the talk but do what is best for their family.