Can you be elegant if you’re not elegant looking?

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There’s nothing - nothing - elegant about excessive cleavage.

+1,000

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the women on the bottom is ugly at all. It just isn't a great picture. She has on a pretty blouse and what looks to be a structured wool coat. The scarf is a poorly worn. If she lost the scarf, put on a swipe of lipstick, and fastened her coat I think she would look lovely.

This is her cleaned up, pretty! It's all about grooming

I think she looks great in the first pic. Like a classic beauty.

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I've never thought as elegance being particularly related to conventional prettiness. More to do with comporting oneself with dignity, and wearing clothes on purpose.

Aretha is elegant. Annie Leibowitz. Iris Apfel, bless her. Madeleine Albright.

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Lena Dunham is a trashy, abrasive person all around. Has little to do with her size.

Some actresses/celebs that aren’t sticks but look elegant are Kate Winslet, Michelle Obama, Helen Mirren, Octavia Spencer, Scarlett Johansson, Kat Dennings, etc

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the women on the bottom is ugly at all. It just isn't a great picture. She has on a pretty blouse and what looks to be a structured wool coat. The scarf is a poorly worn. If she lost the scarf, put on a swipe of lipstick, and fastened her coat I think she would look lovely.

This is her cleaned up, pretty! It's all about grooming

Sorry but she still does not look elegant at all. Cleaned up, but not elegant.

+1

I agree that you have to have long limbs, be thin but mostly it's about fine bone structure. I pretty much look like Lena Durham in terms of elegance, which means that I might clean up nicely but I am in no way elegant. Too short and squatty.

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Anonymous wrote:Lena Dunham is a trashy, abrasive person all around. Has little to do with her size.

Some actresses/celebs that aren’t sticks but look elegant are Kate Winslet, Michelle Obama, Helen Mirren, Octavia Spencer, Scarlett Johansson, Kat Dennings, etc

And I just posted above and like I said, it's mostly bone structure. Of the names that I recognize, those women have fantastic bone structure.

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Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret

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I think you can be elegant even if you aren't stick thin.

Its easier to pull off when you are tall and thin, since clothes look better on tall and thin people, but its possible for even average-sized people. I do think that very overweight people have a much harder time pulling off elegance.

It requires very classy, well made and PERFECTLY fitting clothes, very well-groomed, classically styled hair that is healthy and glossy, well-applied, not overdone makeup, basically perfect skin, and perfectly straight, white teeth. Quite a tall order for most people!

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Emmanuelle Alt is my go to “elegant” woman.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you can be elegant even if you aren't stick thin.

Its easier to pull off when you are tall and thin, since clothes look better on tall and thin people, but its possible for even average-sized people. I do think that very overweight people have a much harder time pulling off elegance.

It requires very classy, well made and PERFECTLY fitting clothes, very well-groomed, classically styled hair that is healthy and glossy, well-applied, not overdone makeup, basically perfect skin, and perfectly straight, white teeth. Quite a tall order for most people!

Oprah, basically.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you can be elegant even if you aren't stick thin.

Its easier to pull off when you are tall and thin, since clothes look better on tall and thin people, but its possible for even average-sized people. I do think that very overweight people have a much harder time pulling off elegance.

It requires very classy, well made and PERFECTLY fitting clothes, very well-groomed, classically styled hair that is healthy and glossy, well-applied, not overdone makeup, basically perfect skin, and perfectly straight, white teeth. Quite a tall order for most people!

Oprah, basically.

Is that a joke?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think the women on the bottom is ugly at all. It just isn't a great picture. She has on a pretty blouse and what looks to be a structured wool coat. The scarf is a poorly worn. If she lost the scarf, put on a swipe of lipstick, and fastened her coat I think she would look lovely.

This is her cleaned up, pretty! It's all about grooming

Sorry but she still does not look elegant at all. Cleaned up, but not elegant.

Agreed. An elegant outfit would never have bowling shoes with a dress.

Are you the same people over in the Jeff Bezos thread complaining about his new partner not being pretty in the way you'd hoped for?

My advice to the tut tutters here and elsewhere is to go do something fun today. Eat a donut. Take a walk outside. Have sex. Do something pleasurable.

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So, here's the truth.

You need to be slim.

It is extremely hard to look elegant if you're not. You can be exquisitely dressed at all times, have clothes that are tailor-made to flatter your figure and skin tone, smile, have great posture, glowing skin and hair, be a wonderful conversationalist, but people won't immediately think of you as "elegant".

And that's OK. You don't need to be elegant to be happy or successful!

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So, here's the truth.

You need to be slim.

It is extremely hard to look elegant if you're not. You can be exquisitely dressed at all times, have clothes that are tailor-made to flatter your figure and skin tone, smile, have great posture, glowing skin and hair, be a wonderful conversationalist, but people won't immediately think of you as "elegant".

And that's OK. You don't need to be elegant to be happy or successful!

I simply disagree.
On another note, I think all of this reveals objectification of women's specific body parts. As though the Slim tummy, limbs, are disconnected from the woman as a whole.
Or that a thicker woman can be elegant if only her (boobs, waist, hair, skin: again, removed from her as a person) are acceptable. Acceptable defined by ???

Take a woman as a whole, and then perhaps, judge her on elegance.

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There’s nothing - nothing - elegant about excessive cleavage.

+ 1

Put those things away. She looks like a cow.

Omg seriously? Only in DC someone would call
Monica Belucci a “cow”. Wow.