Would you trust The Boy Scouts of America?

[Anonymous]

When my sons joined scouts, the first order of business was to discuss with them how to report attempted abuse. When I volunteered with the organization, I had to take an annual youth protection training course. The BSA does not allow the packs and troops to even be registered until every volunteer has the training. The biggest key is to make sure the adults are never allowed to be alone with any of the children. There must be at least two adults at any time.

[Anonymous]

We do like camping, and camp as a family.

I also do not leave my son alone with a sports coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe people are on here defending the organization. SMDH

I feel safer with my kid at scouts than I do with his soccer team. Scouts do mandatory training for every kid on sexual abuse, and no adult is allowed to be alone with a kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are not "being more transparent," the info was made public and they are screwed and they know it.

Nope, don't trust any organization that discriminates against others (which they did until very recently), don't trust them because of the money grab they made allowing girls in just when they know they are going to go down in flames, don't trust organizations that cover up their mistakes for decades, possibly centuries.

For girls who don't like girl scouts for some reason, start your own troop and do it your way. My DD is in HS and in a troop that is a perfect fit for her. The troops are very leader dependant, so if you don't like a particular troop, find one you do like or start your own!

They lost both the Mormon and Catholic Churches when they admitted gay boys and leaders. That lead to including girls to raise the numbers...not a money grab to cover legal costs. Yes the scouts have issues, the churches have issues, our schools have issues both private and public, just now a DC Jewish preschool has issues. For my son boy scouts made him a leader and well prepared to handle life. The leaders he has learned from are fabulous role models. I hope he continues to be involved as an adult.

[Anonymous]

You don’t need the boys scouts to teach camping, self preservation and love of the environment. Similarly you don’t need the Catholic Church to teach religion and morality.

-former Catholic who will not support any organization that covers up the abuse of children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t need the boys scouts to teach camping, self preservation and love of the environment. Similarly you don’t need the Catholic Church to teach religion and morality.

-former Catholic who will not support any organization that covers up the abuse of children

The Boy Scouts are not covering up the abuse now. I wouldn't equate them to the Catholic Church by a long shot. They've learned from their mistakes. Kids are vulnerable to abuse in many organizations. As others have said, they have a lot more safeguards than most organizations related to sexual abuse.

[Anonymous]

If you don’t trust the BSA, you must not love camping? Odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t need the boys scouts to teach camping, self preservation and love of the environment. Similarly you don’t need the Catholic Church to teach religion and morality.

-former Catholic who will not support any organization that covers up the abuse of children

What groups are safe to join to learn these things?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t need the boys scouts to teach camping, self preservation and love of the environment. Similarly you don’t need the Catholic Church to teach religion and morality.

-former Catholic who will not support any organization that covers up the abuse of children

This exactly. DD will never join scouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This really isn't new information.

Yep.

No Boy Scouts for my boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. And the grab for girls was disgusting.

The "girls" (with help from activist adults) forced their way in. There was no grab.


The Boy Scouts are dead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Multiple sources refer to “an unknown number” of cases since 2005, including boys who are still minors.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/04/24/boy-scouts-face-hundreds-new-sexual-abuse-claims/3547991002/

If you read this piece (which is hard because of the massive number of ads they won't let you block), it says the accusations are new but the events occurred at least a decade ago, if not longer.

The victims are still minors, so even if it was a decade ago, it’s still more recent than 2005, and the boys were 6-7 years old. Go ahead and trust them with your son, I do not trust them with mine.

Your child is just as likely to be molested by a sports coach. Educating your child is the key here. Not banning him from some organization he probably doesn't want to join anyway. Why not just say you don't like camping.

Not.

If you drive them to practice and pick them up. Nope. Are they going to do it in the middle of the soccer field with the tons of other kids and parents around?

Now if you are the type of idiot that would leave your kid alone with a coach, let him drive your kid home or take an overnight trip—than, yes. In my recent experience of over 8 years of soccer with my kids, they were never alone with their coach. There was never a reason and the Club had a buddy system when the kids were small where two players would go to bathroom if one had to go and a coach would be outside.

Most coaches will make a point to never be alone with a kid to avoid ever being falsely accused.

That said, I had friends momested on out of town soccer trips when we used to have host families. They don’t do this anymore. The parents stay in hotel with their kids.

I never sent my kids to any of the overnight camps because I know from my youth that’s where shit can happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are not "being more transparent," the info was made public and they are screwed and they know it.

Nope, don't trust any organization that discriminates against others (which they did until very recently), don't trust them because of the money grab they made allowing girls in just when they know they are going to go down in flames, don't trust organizations that cover up their mistakes for decades, possibly centuries.

For girls who don't like girl scouts for some reason, start your own troop and do it your way. My DD is in HS and in a troop that is a perfect fit for her. The troops are very leader dependant, so if you don't like a particular troop, find one you do like or start your own!

They lost both the Mormon and Catholic Churches when they admitted gay boys and leaders. That lead to including girls to raise the numbers...not a money grab to cover legal costs. Yes the scouts have issues, the churches have issues, our schools have issues both private and public, just now a DC Jewish preschool has issues. For my son boy scouts made him a leader and well prepared to handle life. The leaders he has learned from are fabulous role models. I hope he continues to be involved as an adult.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

I trust the Boy Scout troop my sons belong to. Both my husband and I volunteered with the troop. We got to know the other adult volunteers. We trust them. That being said, the troop always makes sure it follows the youth protection rules for both the safety of the kids and adults.

[Anonymous]

Its great having the girls there. Much more of a nice balance.