So what is the conversation, then? "Where are you from?" "I'm Hispanic." "Yeah but where are you from?" "I'm Hispanic." When I have observed my Latina friends having the racist version of this conversation, it goes like this: "Where are you from?" "Michigan." "Yeah but where are you ORIGINALLY from?" "Grand Rapids." "Yeah but where is your FAMILY from?" "Grand Rapids." What the questioner means is "What is your ethic origin since you do not look like I expect a person from Grand Rapids, MI to look due to not being white?" It is perfectly fine to answer the question of where you are from accurately. Responding that you are Hispanic does not answer the question, and I'm not sure what education has to do with anything. |
I don’t ask strangers; it’s people I’ve worked with for a while (usually nurse’s aides). We develop a relationship over time and at a certain point I do ask them, usually after they refer to “my country” in conversation. But I guess I don’t understand what’s offensive about asking where people are from when they speak with an accent that reflects they are from a different country. How is being from someplace else a negative thing? I don’t see it as “less than” in any way, shape or firm so I find it odd that after speaking with someone over time and getting to know them, it would be considered to ask them where they are from originally. |
| ^^don’t know why it would be considered offensive |
| My poor coworker will say where she lives across town, then she will say where she went to college, then she will say where she lived before that. It takes 29 questions to get to where she was born if you are just being nosey. If you are genuinely interested and say my adopted daughter is from ____, she opens right up. She is so classy about it but you don’t get to just ask your intrusive question and get away with it from her. |
| This grammar is so poor I would just assume you're not a native speaker and came from another country. So that's probably some of it. |
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I'm in a walking group and I typically ask new people where they're from because this is a transient area (we walk for 2 hours and it's not my first question but a lot of people don't talk much). I don't ask because you're brown. One woman got extremely defiant and started yelling at me that she was from Texas. I met her again a few months later and I overheard her telling someone she just moved here from Pakistan. I didn't give AF where she was from, I was just trying to make conversation, but now I know she lied about it. It was just weird all around.
I'm white and people ask all the time where I'm from. |
+1 Be aware of who is asking you, OP. Not everyone is ignorant, but in this area there are often very judgy, ignorant people - not very educated (most people expect educated). |
What?! I think it's the opposite. This area is highly educated and a lot of people have lived overseas either in their childhoods or as FSOs or through work. We're very well traveled. |
Ok, noted. So it's only racist if asked in exactly that form? I'm a foreigner and those questions don't bother me at all. Usually people just try to make conversation. |
It doesn't bother you because you're a foreigner and you really are from somewhere else. It bothers people who aren't foreigners but are assumed to be and then badgered when the questioner doesn't like the answer. |
I don't think it's offensive and I'm from a foreign country. I find it more offensive when people don't want to know more about it and only want to stick to superficial things. I have pride in my country and pride in the fact that my family immigrated and learned English, so I'm happy if someone notices that. If you worked with me and never wanted to know about my background I'd feel pretty invisible and like you didn't value me. |
It's racist when the question is based on the assumption that someone isn't fully or truly American, despite being born here, because of how they look. That somehow, even if they are second- or third- or fourth-generation American, they are still foreign. It's not the first question ("Where are you from?") it's the pushback and the refusal to accept an answer that doesn't match the asker's preconceptions. |
+1 |
Why so angry? Seems like you have issues you are not discussing. |
Why would they know he's lying? I was born in India, but my mom moved to Kansas when I was 6 months old (my dad was already there for school). If anyone asks where I'm from, I say Kansas. They always ask - "no, where are you really from", and I always answer "KANSAS". I know what they're getting at -- "you're not white, what are your origins", but f-that. I'm from KANSAS. |