Current CES class: only one kid got into a magnet MS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Is a high performing student who spent the summer in magnet test prep courses funded by his/her professor parents a better candidate than an almost as high performing student with a single parent and no test prep? The best candidate, imho, will always be the one who has done the most with the least. It's not simply test scores - though maybe you didn't mean that?”

How on earth the selection committee know who is “spending whole summer doing test prep” and who’s parent is a single parent? Just looking at their home middle school?

You're wondering how MCPS knows who has a single parent?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only thing it will do is to decimate the magnets of the talented students. Effectively, starting with class of 2022, TPMS and Clemente no longer exist. Buildings are there, teachers are there for the time bring, student body is inferior, results will be as expected. By 2025 or so, Blair Magnet and RMIB will also stop existing. I can only hope someone - SOMEONE - is preserving the curriculum.

It’s turning into something better. Think beyond your own child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us have ancestors who survived the Cultural Revolution in China or the Communist revolution and its aftermath in Russia. We are all too familiar what it means to live in a society where your career prospects depend on how Jewish you look or whether your parents are too educated to be trustworthy in a new social order.

This is nothing in comparison. Our ancestors survived, and our children's careers and futures will somehow survive. But yea, don't bother with your propaganda.

Glad you learned not to step on anyone on your way up.

The only reason you are even in the way is because the system is rigged. You may push my kid out of some special program because my family is too white or too Asian or too middle class or lives in a safe part of the county, but long term my kid has actual knowledge anf yours only inherited hot air from you.

Perhaps the best thing to come out of this whole revamp is that maybe jerks like this won't send their kids to TPMS and Eastern, and we can all be a little happier.

[Anonymous]

My child is at a local CES and nobody talked openly about magnet admissions at school yesterday, so my child has no idea how many got in. How do you all have any idea how many got in at this point? Back during the CES selection process (before our school was designated a local CES), my child only heard of 2 children from our school who were chosen for the regional CES, but later, at a parent meeting, someone from AEI mentioned that due to the fact that our school would be a local CES, 6 spots were opening up for students in the waitpool for the regional CES, so obviously children were offered spots without my child knowing about it. I doubt anyone truly knows how many/which classmates were offered magnet seats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids went through the Mcps magnet programs in years past. My youngest is in magnet HS and my heart aches for the high performing students who are being rejected because of essentially racial politics in MCPS. So sorry. Remember this and translate it into action when you have the opportunity to be able to influence employment, promotion and internships. Be color blind and pick the best candidate. Do the due diligence and make sure that you are not fulfilling some extreme version of racial agenda.

Is a high performing student who spent the summer in magnet test prep courses funded by his/her professor parents a better candidate than an almost as high performing student with a single parent and no test prep? The best candidate, imho, will always be the one who has done the most with the least. It's not simply test scores - though maybe you didn't mean that?

Of COURSE. It's always test prep lady.

Please.

Get off this already.

Some kids are super super smart. (Maybe yours aren't and need the test prep.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids went through the Mcps magnet programs in years past. My youngest is in magnet HS and my heart aches for the high performing students who are being rejected because of essentially racial politics in MCPS. So sorry. Remember this and translate it into action when you have the opportunity to be able to influence employment, promotion and internships. Be color blind and pick the best candidate. Do the due diligence and make sure that you are not fulfilling some extreme version of racial agenda.

Is a high performing student who spent the summer in magnet test prep courses funded by his/her professor parents a better candidate than an almost as high performing student with a single parent and no test prep? The best candidate, imho, will always be the one who has done the most with the least. It's not simply test scores - though maybe you didn't mean that?

Of COURSE. It's always test prep lady.

Please.

Get off this already.

Some kids are super super smart. (Maybe yours aren't and need the test prep.)

But most aren't - by definition.

And there are kids who get a lot of test prep. Whether it makes a difference, I don't know. It's a thing, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're wondering how MCPS knows who has a single parent?!

It is said that there are almost equal number of kids from each home school and the girl/boy ratio are balanced at CES, I wonder how that happened if personal info were blinded

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're wondering how MCPS knows who has a single parent?!

It is said that there are almost equal number of kids from each home school and the girl/boy ratio are balanced at CES, I wonder how that happened if personal info were blinded

I remember someone posting last year that MCPS did use gender and provided evidence to back their claim. Also, MCPS did admit that they knew the MS home school, which is obvious if they used peer cohort. I believe using gender is legal, but race is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I remember someone posting last year that MCPS did use gender and provided evidence to back their claim. Also, MCPS did admit that they knew the MS home school, which is obvious if they used peer cohort. I believe using gender is legal, but race is not.

No, it's not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I remember someone posting last year that MCPS did use gender and provided evidence to back their claim. Also, MCPS did admit that they knew the MS home school, which is obvious if they used peer cohort. I believe using gender is legal, but race is not.

No, it's not.

Do you have a link to support your claim? Gender was not mentioned in the court cases that determined race couldn't be used.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I remember someone posting last year that MCPS did use gender and provided evidence to back their claim. Also, MCPS did admit that they knew the MS home school, which is obvious if they used peer cohort. I believe using gender is legal, but race is not.

No, it's not.

Do you have a link to support your claim? Gender was not mentioned in the court cases that determined race couldn't be used.

Title IX

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I remember someone posting last year that MCPS did use gender and provided evidence to back their claim. Also, MCPS did admit that they knew the MS home school, which is obvious if they used peer cohort. I believe using gender is legal, but race is not.

No, it's not.

Do you have a link to support your claim? Gender was not mentioned in the court cases that determined race couldn't be used.

Title IX

How does that apply in balancing a program using gender? Title IX is gender discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids went through the Mcps magnet programs in years past. My youngest is in magnet HS and my heart aches for the high performing students who are being rejected because of essentially racial politics in MCPS. So sorry. Remember this and translate it into action when you have the opportunity to be able to influence employment, promotion and internships. Be color blind and pick the best candidate. Do the due diligence and make sure that you are not fulfilling some extreme version of racial agenda.

Is a high performing student who spent the summer in magnet test prep courses funded by his/her professor parents a better candidate than an almost as high performing student with a single parent and no test prep? The best candidate, imho, will always be the one who has done the most with the least. It's not simply test scores - though maybe you didn't mean that?

Of COURSE. It's always test prep lady.

Please.

Get off this already.

Some kids are super super smart. (Maybe yours aren't and need the test prep.)

But most aren't - by definition.

And there are kids who get a lot of test prep. Whether it makes a difference, I don't know. It's a thing, though.

It's a thing, and it does!
I called a certain test prep outfit a month ago to sign my child up for a writing class (she needs real instruction, not what passed for 'writing' in MCPS elementary), and the receptionist, apparently, didn't quite understand what I was asking about, so she told me, off the bat, that 'magnet prep courses are full and she can't guarantee my child a spot'. WTF?
The place offers weeks and weeks for magnet test prep, grades 3/5/8.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I remember someone posting last year that MCPS did use gender and provided evidence to back their claim. Also, MCPS did admit that they knew the MS home school, which is obvious if they used peer cohort. I believe using gender is legal, but race is not.

No, it's not.

Do you have a link to support your claim? Gender was not mentioned in the court cases that determined race couldn't be used.

Title IX

How does that apply in balancing a program using gender? Title IX is gender discrimination.

Title IX is sex discrimination (which may or may not include gender, depending on the court case and the beliefs of the administration). Admitting/rejecting boys/girls because they are boys/girls is sex (or gender) discrimination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're wondering how MCPS knows who has a single parent?!

It is said that there are almost equal number of kids from each home school and the girl/boy ratio are balanced at CES, I wonder how that happened if personal info were blinded

Gender is available to the selection committee, it's stated somewhere in the middle of the PowerPoint presentation that I saw on MCPS web site in the fall. That's how they balance boys and girls.
Not sure about the name of the home school, but it shouldn't be hiddloen, otherwise, how will they figure out 'the cohort'?