Current CES class: only one kid got into a magnet MS

[Anonymous]

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DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us have ancestors who survived the Cultural Revolution in China or the Communist revolution and its aftermath in Russia. We are all too familiar what it means to live in a society where your career prospects depend on how Jewish you look or whether your parents are too educated to be trustworthy in a new social order.

This is nothing in comparison. Our ancestors survived, and our children's careers and futures will somehow survive. But yea, don't bother with your propaganda.

Glad you learned not to step on anyone on your way up.

The only reason you are even in the way is because the system is rigged. You may push my kid out of some special program because my family is too white or too Asian or too middle class or lives in a safe part of the county, but long term my kid has actual knowledge anf yours only inherited hot air from you.

Perhaps the best thing to come out of this whole revamp is that maybe jerks like this won't send their kids to TPMS and Eastern, and we can all be a little happier.

+1000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

Yes, said it would be considered and it is in writing for the CES process (see previous post with link). I'm not going to continue arguing about this anymore. Happy to consider evidence to the contrary if 1) someone can post proof from a MCPS source that I didn't hear the MCPS rep correctly at the meeting or 2) that for some reason, MS admissions can't use gender but CES can.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

I hear that but anonymously vouching isn't worth much. Can you provide any hard evidence that this is true?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

I hear that but anonymously vouching isn't worth much. Can you provide any hard evidence that this is true?

OMG, does the link me anything to you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/...elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

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DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

I hear that but anonymously vouching isn't worth much. Can you provide any hard evidence that this is true?

OMG, does the link me anything to you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/...elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

DP. It means nothing to me, because it returns "page not found".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

I hear that but anonymously vouching isn't worth much. Can you provide any hard evidence that this is true?

OMG, does the link me anything to you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/...elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

DP. It means nothing to me, because it returns "page not found".

sorry try this: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

[Anonymous]

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sorry try this: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

That only says that profiles will denote gender, not that they use it as a factor in admissions (even though they have it listed on the Factor for Admissions slide).

So: do they have the gender information? Yes. Do they say that they use it, let alone how they use it? No.

I'm not quibbling. Maybe they do use it. But the PowerPoint doesn't say they do.

[Anonymous]

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sorry try this: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

That only says that profiles will denote gender, not that they use it as a factor in admissions (even though they have it listed on the Factor for Admissions slide).

So: do they have the gender information? Yes. Do they say that they use it, let alone how they use it? No.

I'm not quibbling. Maybe they do use it. But the PowerPoint doesn't say they do.

Why would they list it if they didn't use it? Also, I and at least one other poster were trying to answer the question of how the MS magnets last year became gender balanced compared to previous years according to published data. Yes, you could be correct and the gender balance was random last year and possibly this year.

[Anonymous]

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sorry try this: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

That only says that profiles will denote gender, not that they use it as a factor in admissions (even though they have it listed on the Factor for Admissions slide).

So: do they have the gender information? Yes. Do they say that they use it, let alone how they use it? No.

I'm not quibbling. Maybe they do use it. But the PowerPoint doesn't say they do.

Why would they list it if they didn't use it? Also, I and at least one other poster were trying to answer the question of how the MS magnets last year became gender balanced compared to previous years according to published data. Yes, you could be correct and the gender balance was random last year and possibly this year.

Also, the language on gender is under the slide titled "Factors for Consideration," which also consider FARM, Special Ed, and ESOL status.

[Anonymous]

I recall last year at the open houses they said something like equal # of offers go to each gender but more girls accept at Eastern and more boys accept at TPMS. Maybe they continue into the waitlist w half and half offers?

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

I hear that but anonymously vouching isn't worth much. Can you provide any hard evidence that this is true?

OMG, does the link me anything to you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/...elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

OMG is this a joke? It goes to a 404 page. Anonymous assertions with broken links are hardly proof.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

I hear that but anonymously vouching isn't worth much. Can you provide any hard evidence that this is true?

OMG, does the link me anything to you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/...elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

OMG is this a joke? It goes to a 404 page. Anonymous assertions with broken links are hardly proof.

The link works for me. You can also find the info on MCPS.

Go to: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/admissions/applications.aspx
Click on the link titled: CES Selection Committee PowerPoint Spring 2017

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

DP, only major difference was cohort. You are arguing with 2 posters with no evidence on your part. Using gender in this case is not illegal. I asked in person and the MCPS rep said gender was a factor. If it was illegal, they couldn't use it at the CES level.

The MCPS person said that they are using gender as a factor in MS admissions?

DP here

Will vouch for this that MCPS has mentioned gender as a factor.

I hear that but anonymously vouching isn't worth much. Can you provide any hard evidence that this is true?

OMG, does the link me anything to you: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/...elementary/CES%20Selection.PDF

OMG is this a joke? It goes to a 404 page. Anonymous assertions with broken links are hardly proof.

The link works for me. You can also find the info on MCPS.

Go to: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/admissions/applications.aspx
Click on the link titled: CES Selection Committee PowerPoint Spring 2017

If the above link does work go to the MCPS webpage and navigate to the following: Special Programs ? Admissions ? Application Forms

If you can't see it, I don't know what else to say or do!