Afterlife

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. "Mediums" are charlatans who take money from the grieving and lie to them. That disgusts me.

And I am deeply, deeply happy, for your edification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

Agreed. I’m the PP who talked about reincarnation; I assume you’re insulting me too. You don’t have to agree, but you can show kindness.

You are getting exactly the kindness any thief or charlatan deserves.

To be clear, this isn't about "believing in a god or not believing" -- that is a personal choice. But lying to grieving people telling them you communicate with their dead loved ones is flat out shameful and dishonest. It's no different than any other con, except maybe worse than most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. "Mediums" are charlatans who take money from the grieving and lie to them. That disgusts me.


And I am deeply, deeply happy, for your edification.

I don’t charge for mediumship. I have no problem with those who do. And I do charge for other services - weddings, house blessings, workshops, speaking, etc. But when I read for people, I do it purely as a gift. You seem to have a lot of anger towards people you don’t even know. No one is asking you to believe in psychic ability. I would encourage you to think about where all the rage comes from. You’ve viciously attacked several people in this thread. You even suggested I should burn in hell. That’s not normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. "Mediums" are charlatans who take money from the grieving and lie to them. That disgusts me.


And I am deeply, deeply happy, for your edification.

I don’t charge for mediumship. I have no problem with those who do. And I do charge for other services - weddings, house blessings, workshops, speaking, etc. But when I read for people, I do it purely as a gift. You seem to have a lot of anger towards people you don’t even know. No one is asking you to believe in psychic ability. I would encourage you to think about where all the rage comes from. You’ve viciously attacked several people in this thread. You even suggested I should burn in hell. That’s not normal.

Np. Can you do a reading for me? Can you 'read' me and talk to my beloved people who are deceased?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. "Mediums" are charlatans who take money from the grieving and lie to them. That disgusts me.


And I am deeply, deeply happy, for your edification.

I don’t charge for mediumship. I have no problem with those who do. And I do charge for other services - weddings, house blessings, workshops, speaking, etc. But when I read for people, I do it purely as a gift. You seem to have a lot of anger towards people you don’t even know. No one is asking you to believe in psychic ability. I would encourage you to think about where all the rage comes from. You’ve viciously attacked several people in this thread. You even suggested I should burn in hell. That’s not normal.

Np. Can you do a reading for me? Can you 'read' me and talk to my beloved people who are deceased?

I’m not great at distance readings. I wish I were. There really isn’t any reason it is more difficult for me. Time and space are meaningless when we are communicating in the spiritual world. But I’ve always had difficulty connecting when I can’t be physically near someone. Sometimes I can do it, especially if a deceased loved one really wants to get a message through. It’s something I am continually working on. I would love to develop this ability. I connect so easily face to face. If I were better able to connect, I would do online readings often. I love helping people communicate with spirits! There is a reader on dcum who is a rock star at distance readings. Maybe she’ll see this thread and do some readings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have hard, concrete experiences to back up my belief, but this is what I think about the afterlife (and beforelife):

Since everything we can observe in nature is cyclical (aka matter doesn't cease to exist, it just changes form), it would seem logical to me that the same thing would apply to our souls. I believe in souls because it's the only explanation I can come up with for emotions that are so strong (love, hate, etc.) that pure chemicals and hormones don't seem to provide enough explanation.

All that is to say, I believe in reincarnation. I believe we've all always existed and we'll always exist. We just change form. You know how people say, "I met this person and we had an instant connection, like we've always known each other"? To me, that means you probably met in an earlier life. You might have been a human, or maybe you were an animal, but you met.

I also believe in the Buddhist idea of being able to earn a place outside the suffering, material world by being a really good person while in it. I believe in the idea that if you can focus on what's important--being good to others, really--you stand a chance of reaching a higher plane, where you don't have to deal with the suffering we have in the material world.

It doesn't mean you go to some other planet; you're still here, but you just exist in some way that it's really corporal.

Anyway, hopefully that's somewhat coherent. BTW, I don't strictly define myself as a Buddhist, although I spent a lot of time with Buddhist monks in Thailand and love them. I'm basically a cultural Jew who also accepts a lot of the concepts from Buddhism.

Just because it's the only thing you can come up with doesn't make it factual.

PP here. And just because there are chemical and hormonal reactions that we can measure doesn't mean there isn't something else going on.

The fact of the matter is that, for as long as humans have been around, people have been reporting experiences that just don't have a good explanation. While I can believe that some of those are made up, I find it highly unlikely that they are all BS.

Imagination is not necessarily BS - it's just not reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

insincerity detected

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have hard, concrete experiences to back up my belief, but this is what I think about the afterlife (and beforelife):

Since everything we can observe in nature is cyclical (aka matter doesn't cease to exist, it just changes form), it would seem logical to me that the same thing would apply to our souls. I believe in souls because it's the only explanation I can come up with for emotions that are so strong (love, hate, etc.) that pure chemicals and hormones don't seem to provide enough explanation.

All that is to say, I believe in reincarnation. I believe we've all always existed and we'll always exist. We just change form. You know how people say, "I met this person and we had an instant connection, like we've always known each other"? To me, that means you probably met in an earlier life. You might have been a human, or maybe you were an animal, but you met.

I also believe in the Buddhist idea of being able to earn a place outside the suffering, material world by being a really good person while in it. I believe in the idea that if you can focus on what's important--being good to others, really--you stand a chance of reaching a higher plane, where you don't have to deal with the suffering we have in the material world.

It doesn't mean you go to some other planet; you're still here, but you just exist in some way that it's really corporal.

Anyway, hopefully that's somewhat coherent. BTW, I don't strictly define myself as a Buddhist, although I spent a lot of time with Buddhist monks in Thailand and love them. I'm basically a cultural Jew who also accepts a lot of the concepts from Buddhism.

Just because it's the only thing you can come up with doesn't make it factual.

PP here. And just because there are chemical and hormonal reactions that we can measure doesn't mean there isn't something else going on.

The fact of the matter is that, for as long as humans have been around, people have been reporting experiences that just don't have a good explanation. While I can believe that some of those are made up, I find it highly unlikely that they are all BS.

Imagination is not necessarily BS - it's just not reality.

What proof do you have that it's all just imagination?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. "Mediums" are charlatans who take money from the grieving and lie to them. That disgusts me.


And I am deeply, deeply happy, for your edification.

I don’t charge for mediumship. I have no problem with those who do. And I do charge for other services - weddings, house blessings, workshops, speaking, etc. But when I read for people, I do it purely as a gift. You seem to have a lot of anger towards people you don’t even know. No one is asking you to believe in psychic ability. I would encourage you to think about where all the rage comes from. You’ve viciously attacked several people in this thread. You even suggested I should burn in hell. That’s not normal.

I don't care if you charge or not, what you do is exploit people in grief with your BS. That's the lowest of the low. And yes I have anger toward dishonest lowlifes, and you are one. I don't believe in hell so I did not wish you to burn there -- I only stated the irony that would occur if there were one. And to be clear, I have only attacked one person, the person who claimed to be able to communicate with the dead!

Maybe you don't think you are a lowlife charlatan, but that doesn't change the fact that you are, as are all "mediums" . Every single one. This has been well documented, just google "cold readings" and see how this crap has been exposed since the days of Harry Houdini.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. "Mediums" are charlatans who take money from the grieving and lie to them. That disgusts me.


And I am deeply, deeply happy, for your edification.

I don’t charge for mediumship. I have no problem with those who do. And I do charge for other services - weddings, house blessings, workshops, speaking, etc. But when I read for people, I do it purely as a gift. You seem to have a lot of anger towards people you don’t even know. No one is asking you to believe in psychic ability. I would encourage you to think about where all the rage comes from. You’ve viciously attacked several people in this thread. You even suggested I should burn in hell. That’s not normal.

Np. Can you do a reading for me? Can you 'read' me and talk to my beloved people who are deceased?

I’m not great at distance readings. I wish I were. There really isn’t any reason it is more difficult for me. Time and space are meaningless when we are communicating in the spiritual world. But I’ve always had difficulty connecting when I can’t be physically near someone. Sometimes I can do it, especially if a deceased loved one really wants to get a message through. It’s something I am continually working on. I would love to develop this ability. I connect so easily face to face. If I were better able to connect, I would do online readings often. I love helping people communicate with spirits! There is a reader on dcum who is a rock star at distance readings. Maybe she’ll see this thread and do some readings.

Yep, charlatan. The reason it's more difficult for you is because you can't play on someone'e emotions as easily on the internet, as in person. Stop leading people on with your bull.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I see and talk to dead people nearly every day. I’m a medium. And a minister. You don’t have to believe in an afterlife. But I’m telling you that when our physical bodies die, we continue to exist. I can always validate my messages from people who have transitioned. It’s not about religion. We simply do not cease to exist. Our death is exactly like our birth. We move from one reality to the next.

You're a medium? I am an extra large.

If you genuinely believe what you say, you are deluded and need help. And if you don't -- well, that's the only time I wish there actually was a hell, so people like you that exploit the grieving could burn in it.

Also flying around this thread:

- The Argument from Ignorance Fallacy
- The Argument from Authority Fallacy

You sound deeply unhappy. I’m really sorry for whatever caused this. You don’t have to agree with someone to be kind. Wishing you peace.

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. "Mediums" are charlatans who take money from the grieving and lie to them. That disgusts me.


And I am deeply, deeply happy, for your edification.

I don’t charge for mediumship. I have no problem with those who do. And I do charge for other services - weddings, house blessings, workshops, speaking, etc. But when I read for people, I do it purely as a gift. You seem to have a lot of anger towards people you don’t even know. No one is asking you to believe in psychic ability. I would encourage you to think about where all the rage comes from. You’ve viciously attacked several people in this thread. You even suggested I should burn in hell. That’s not normal.

Np. Can you do a reading for me? Can you 'read' me and talk to my beloved people who are deceased?

I’m not great at distance readings. I wish I were. There really isn’t any reason it is more difficult for me. Time and space are meaningless when we are communicating in the spiritual world. But I’ve always had difficulty connecting when I can’t be physically near someone. Sometimes I can do it, especially if a deceased loved one really wants to get a message through. It’s something I am continually working on. I would love to develop this ability. I connect so easily face to face. If I were better able to connect, I would do online readings often. I love helping people communicate with spirits! There is a reader on dcum who is a rock star at distance readings. Maybe she’ll see this thread and do some readings.

Yep, charlatan. The reason it's more difficult for you is because you can't play on someone'e emotions as easily on the internet, as in person. Stop leading people on with your bull.

PP, oddly, there is a significant cohort of people on DCUM who believe in this stuff. It kind of boggles my mind, but it’s true. People rise up to defend this kind of thing here. Go figure.

[Anonymous]

I’m not going to say there aren’t people who can do this—who knows—but certainly there are people who exploit others. I have no idea what group this poster falls into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not going to say there aren’t people who can do this—who knows—but certainly there are people who exploit others. I have no idea what group this poster falls into.

I can tell you who knows.

Most people.

Because most of the big ones have been exposed. There's a mountain of evidence on youtube where you can see cold readings exposed. Many books written on subject if you are more interested.

Same goes for faith healer-scumbags also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not going to say there aren’t people who can do this—who knows—but certainly there are people who exploit others. I have no idea what group this poster falls into.

I can tell you who knows.

Most people.

Because most of the big ones have been exposed. There's a mountain of evidence on youtube where you can see cold readings exposed. Many books written on subject if you are more interested.

Same goes for faith healer-scumbags also.

NP. Not a big fan of mediums. But there may be a placebo effect going on with faith healers that gives their work some effectiveness. Or, faith—I’m not ruling that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not going to say there aren’t people who can do this—who knows—but certainly there are people who exploit others. I have no idea what group this poster falls into.

I can tell you who knows.

Most people.

Because most of the big ones have been exposed. There's a mountain of evidence on youtube where you can see cold readings exposed. Many books written on subject if you are more interested.

Same goes for faith healer-scumbags also.

NP. Not a big fan of mediums. But there may be a placebo effect going on with faith healers that gives their work some effectiveness. Or, faith—I’m not ruling that out.

I’m not sure I would try to argue with this person. She sounds truly unstable. Wouldn’t want to push her over the edge.