University of Arizona

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Arizona State gets more of the buzz these days and has probably surpassed Univ. of Arizona on many measures, but the University of Arizona is a fine state school where the vast vast majority of students will be rom AZ and CA.


You’ve got to be joking. ASU is a joke with its constant trolling for online students. Nobody takes it seriously with it’s 90% acceptance rate.
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Anonymous wrote:Actually Arizona made a big jump in the USNWR rankings this year and passed ASU.


Typically, U of A has always surpassed Arizona State. Arizona is the flagship, while State is the land grant.


Mmm, not really. USNWR Ranking last two year.

U of A: 2018 (124 National; 58 Public. 2019 (106 and 46)
ASU: 2018 (115 and 53); 2019 (115 and 52)


Traditionally, UA has been the better thought of school. ASU has pulled in some higher scoring kids and garnered attention with their honors college, but the rest of the school is not on the same level as UA.


+1. ASU was always considered the party school, whereas UA was considered the better school. (NAU was the "quirky" state school for those who didn't want the big school feel, and especially good for kids interested in forestry.)
UA also has an honors program that's pretty hard to get into.
Anonymous
ASU is now the largest public school in the country. They have a few strong programs, but overall it's a party school in the middle of a big city. Tucson is all about the UofA and is much more of a college town. Top instate students tend to pick UofA over ASU. If your DC feels like one of these schools is a better fit, it will be easy to eliminate the other.
Anonymous
ASU is much better for engineering, business, and journalism. I think ASU campus has a much better vibe. There is great transportation between them and each campus feels a bit smaller than one huge campus on UA. And while Tucson is lovely, there isn’t much to do. ASU is closer to Phoenix (airfare) Sedona, Grand Canyon, Vegas etc...

Others to look for OP are

Ohio State
Iowa State
Michigan State
WVU
Cal Poly
San Diego State
University of Alabama


Don’t worry about DCUM trolls. Plenty of kids have great experiences leaving the coast. My DD has friends in multiple schools above with great packages and are very happy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Arizona State's acceptance rate is almost 83% and there are as others have noted already, about 32000 students attending.

OP why not get your kid to contact the admissions dept.

Thanks, but we are well aware of the admissions statistics and what it takes to get in. I am more looking for advice from people who have personal experience with the University of Arizona. (He is not interested in ASU).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually Arizona made a big jump in the USNWR rankings this year and passed ASU.


Typically, U of A has always surpassed Arizona State. Arizona is the flagship, while State is the land grant.


Nope, U of A is the land grant and the flagship. ASU was founded as a teacher's college--normal school.
Anonymous
Are people really arguing over these two schools. It all depends on your major and your kid's needs.

Both schools can give your child a great education.

And I will take that weather all winter long over Michigan, Minnesota or anywhere near the Great Lakes.
Anonymous
OP, I grew up in Arizona. I knew lots of people who went to ASU and U of A. My best friend's daughter is at U of A. She loves it.

I am somewhat skeptical of the idea of "neighboring states as a better launching pad for CA jobs than staying in VA." People who go to Arizona schools mostly want jobs in Arizona. I don't think AZ schools give you any advantage, relative to any other non-California state, for getting jobs in California.

What I think you should look at is the Cal State system. Some of them are in roughly the same category as U of A in terms of price and selectivity. (Some of them are even cheaper than U of A, as far as I can tell.) San Diego State, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State LA, Cal Poly Pomona - I work for an engineering company that has thousands of employees in southern California, and we definitely hire people from these schools.
Anonymous
NP here who lives in Los Angeles and has been here for many years (with an exception to live in N. Arlington a few years back which is why I'm on DCUM).

I just got on to write about the Cal State system but I see that 10:46 has done it for me. Good advice.

Don't forget CSUN (pronounced C-Sun) which is Cal State Northridge. Basically, it's a great Cal State, and it's in Los Angeles (in "the Valley" but it's in LA.

Also Cal Poly SLO (San Luis Obispo) very good school in a beautiful setting.

These local schools will set your DC up to living in CA better than Arizona schools, I think. And fyi your DC might be able to transfer to a UC, and then (I haven't researched this but I think) by that time, would be eligible for in-state tuition.

OP, if you really want to get your kid into a UC, here is the ticket. Send your DC to Santa Monica College (it's a junior college). If he follows a particular protocol and keeps his GPA at a certain level, it's the path to UCLA. There is some sort of contractual agreement between the schools. Many kids around here are doing this because UCLA is so hard to get into. Another would be Santa Barbara City College to UCSB. (I did SBCC to UCLA years ago, but I was on the UCSB track).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arizona State's acceptance rate is almost 83% and there are as others have noted already, about 32000 students attending.

OP why not get your kid to contact the admissions dept.

Thanks, but we are well aware of the admissions statistics and what it takes to get in. I am more looking for advice from people who have personal experience with the University of Arizona. (He is not interested in ASU).


A good friend's son got in. He had lousy grades and applied early decision to ensure he got a spot there. Maybe your kid can do the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NP here who lives in Los Angeles and has been here for many years (with an exception to live in N. Arlington a few years back which is why I'm on DCUM).

I just got on to write about the Cal State system but I see that 10:46 has done it for me. Good advice.

Don't forget CSUN (pronounced C-Sun) which is Cal State Northridge. Basically, it's a great Cal State, and it's in Los Angeles (in "the Valley" but it's in LA.

Also Cal Poly SLO (San Luis Obispo) very good school in a beautiful setting.

These local schools will set your DC up to living in CA better than Arizona schools, I think. And fyi your DC might be able to transfer to a UC, and then (I haven't researched this but I think) by that time, would be eligible for in-state tuition.

OP, if you really want to get your kid into a UC, here is the ticket. Send your DC to Santa Monica College (it's a junior college). If he follows a particular protocol and keeps his GPA at a certain level, it's the path to UCLA. There is some sort of contractual agreement between the schools. Many kids around here are doing this because UCLA is so hard to get into. Another would be Santa Barbara City College to UCSB. (I did SBCC to UCLA years ago, but I was on the UCSB track).

My son is not interested in California or attending a UC...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can you get merit aid to a state school when you are out of state?


Arizona offers a lot of merit aid to OOS. So does ASU. And both of them have good honors colleges.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I grew up in Arizona. I knew lots of people who went to ASU and U of A. My best friend's daughter is at U of A. She loves it.

I am somewhat skeptical of the idea of "neighboring states as a better launching pad for CA jobs than staying in VA." People who go to Arizona schools mostly want jobs in Arizona. I don't think AZ schools give you any advantage, relative to any other non-California state, for getting jobs in California.

What I think you should look at is the Cal State system. Some of them are in roughly the same category as U of A in terms of price and selectivity. (Some of them are even cheaper than U of A, as far as I can tell.) San Diego State, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State LA, Cal Poly Pomona - I work for an engineering company that has thousands of employees in southern California, and we definitely hire people from these schools.


ASU is a major recruiting school for Silicon Valley.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I grew up in Arizona. I knew lots of people who went to ASU and U of A. My best friend's daughter is at U of A. She loves it.

I am somewhat skeptical of the idea of "neighboring states as a better launching pad for CA jobs than staying in VA." People who go to Arizona schools mostly want jobs in Arizona. I don't think AZ schools give you any advantage, relative to any other non-California state, for getting jobs in California.

What I think you should look at is the Cal State system. Some of them are in roughly the same category as U of A in terms of price and selectivity. (Some of them are even cheaper than U of A, as far as I can tell.) San Diego State, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State LA, Cal Poly Pomona - I work for an engineering company that has thousands of employees in southern California, and we definitely hire people from these schools.

I am from Los Angeles. Lol, absolutely not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I grew up in Arizona. I knew lots of people who went to ASU and U of A. My best friend's daughter is at U of A. She loves it.

I am somewhat skeptical of the idea of "neighboring states as a better launching pad for CA jobs than staying in VA." People who go to Arizona schools mostly want jobs in Arizona. I don't think AZ schools give you any advantage, relative to any other non-California state, for getting jobs in California.

What I think you should look at is the Cal State system. Some of them are in roughly the same category as U of A in terms of price and selectivity. (Some of them are even cheaper than U of A, as far as I can tell.) San Diego State, Cal State Long Beach, Cal State LA, Cal Poly Pomona - I work for an engineering company that has thousands of employees in southern California, and we definitely hire people from these schools.

I am from Los Angeles. Lol, absolutely not.

+1 sorry, but this is terrible advice. Do not listen to it.
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