Gang Activity in Mt. Pleasant

[Anonymous]

Numbers and costs are still huge. This is for Texas from 2011-2018.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

So move.
If being around brown folks is getting to unpleasant for you then pack your stuff and go to a less diversified area.
Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

PP's point was that there are many community members who are NOT gang members but who many posters on this thread would probably label as gang members just by looking at them. Do you live in Mount Pleasant? If so, when did you move there? If not, did you ever live there?

In any case, the OP of this thread seems confused about what actually happened, as do you, since you're citing the drive-by in Lincoln Heights, which is (as PP noted) quite far away from Mt. Pleasant and Irving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

PP you responded to. I've been here long enough to know better and am not a newcomer. Likewise, I work as an acute care healthcare provider at a local trauma center and care for victims of violence (gang-related and not). I don't need you to educate me what I know from my personal and professional experience.

The drive-by you referenced (which has no hard evidence of being gang-related, but could be) occurred in NE DC, 8+ miles from the neighborhoods of Columbia Heights and Mount Pleasant. You then made the false correlation of that tragedy being related to the "very criminal enriched activity hotbeds" of Mount Pleasant and Columbia Heights. Perhaps you should get your neighborhoods and geography straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing is for certain. Everyone keeps talking about the lack of wage growth particularly on the lower rungs of labor ladder. The more cheap labor you import into America be it legal or illegal the less wage growth you’ll see for those on the lower end of the economic chain.

50% of people in this country pay no income tax yet have the audacity to ask those that do to pay for their largesse.

I’m a liberal but I find it increasingly difficult to pay for all the things that are asked of me to fund our “Sanctuary City.”

So if you come here behave. Part of my American Dream isn’t to pay for all of yours.

Fact.

And I would like to stop paying for your mortgage interest write off. Why should I help you buy a house bigger than you can afford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Friday afternoon/evening there was a large police presence in Mt. Pleasant at Irving and Mt. Pleasant St.

Turns out two rivals gangs were going to have a turf war. Sanctuary Cities is one thing but allowing our streets to be turned into the Killing Fields is wrong.
Many people come here from Central and South America to escape this type of violence only to discover that the law enforcement has been neutered by local politicians all
in the name of votes and political correctness.

Mexico is on pace for 30K murders this year. I have nothing against law abiding people coming to America and I want a pathway to citizenship for all undocumented citizens but if you
get involved in illegal activities that's wrong and telling our police that they can't make arrests in these cases is insane.

So many wrong statements.

Law enforcement hasn't been neutered. Police often say that sanctuary policies (meaning that local police do not participate in immigration enforcement, including asking people about their immigration status) *helps* them do their job, because witnesses and victims are more willing to cooperate with the police if they don't fear being deported. And no sanctuary policy in the country prevents the police from arresting someone engaged in a violent crime, regardless of their immigration status. No one--absolutely no one--is preventing police from making arrests.

Also, you have NO idea whether the members of the gangs were illegal or legal immigrants, or American citizens.

So, there was a potentially dangerous situation in MtP, the police observed it and neutralized it, apparently without needing to resort to the use of force. Kudos to the cops for defusing a tense situation and keeping residents safe.

could you post a reliable and credible data for this? I don't mean CNN or Fox.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-wexler-sanctuary-cities-immigration-crime-20170306-story.html#

https://www.majorcitieschiefs.com/pdf/news/mcca_mayors_pr_on_eo_12517.pdf

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/18/16130954/police-sanctuary-cities

https://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/Houston-Police-chief-blasts-Texas-sanctuary-city-12255383.php

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On Friday afternoon/evening there was a large police presence in Mt. Pleasant at Irving and Mt. Pleasant St.

Turns out two rivals gangs were going to have a turf war. Sanctuary Cities is one thing but allowing our streets to be turned into the Killing Fields is wrong.
Many people come here from Central and South America to escape this type of violence only to discover that the law enforcement has been neutered by local politicians all
in the name of votes and political correctness.

Mexico is on pace for 30K murders this year. I have nothing against law abiding people coming to America and I want a pathway to citizenship for all undocumented citizens but if you
get involved in illegal activities that's wrong and telling our police that they can't make arrests in these cases is insane.

So many wrong statements.

Law enforcement hasn't been neutered. Police often say that sanctuary policies (meaning that local police do not participate in immigration enforcement, including asking people about their immigration status) *helps* them do their job, because witnesses and victims are more willing to cooperate with the police if they don't fear being deported. And no sanctuary policy in the country prevents the police from arresting someone engaged in a violent crime, regardless of their immigration status. No one--absolutely no one--is preventing police from making arrests.

Also, you have NO idea whether the members of the gangs were illegal or legal immigrants, or American citizens.

So, there was a potentially dangerous situation in MtP, the police observed it and neutralized it, apparently without needing to resort to the use of force. Kudos to the cops for defusing a tense situation and keeping residents safe.

could you post a reliable and credible data for this? I don't mean CNN or Fox.

I'm assuming you don't know how to use Internet search engines. These were found by a simple Google search:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/18/16130954/police-sanctuary-cities
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/01/29/512002076/why-sanctuary-cities-are-safer
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/reports/2017/01/26/297366/the-effects-of-sanctuary-policies-on-crime-and-the-economy/
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/homeland-security/339718-on-sanctuary-cities-lets-listen-to-law-enforcement

Just because something is printed on a news website doesn’t make it accurate nor true. As far as sanctuary cities being safer, that’s a lie. I’d put a sanctuary city like Los Angeles up against Houston or Phoenix. Whether police ask for immigration status or not should not be a determining factor in when public safety is at risk. Remember this: The majority/plurality is rarely on the right side of history. We’ve seen this to be the case with slavery, Nazism and others. It’s usually those in the minority of voices on the right side of history.

The Houston police chief disagrees with you. He came out STRONGLY against the Texas bill outlawing sanctuary cities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

So move.
If being around brown folks is getting to unpleasant for you then pack your stuff and go to a less diversified area.
Problem solved.

Why would an American citizen have to leave an American town but the persons here illegally get to stay? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

So move.
If being around brown folks is getting to unpleasant for you then pack your stuff and go to a less diversified area.
Problem solved.

Why would an American citizen have to leave an American town but the persons here illegally get to stay? No.

You honestly think all the brown people in Mt. Pleasant are here illegally? Lol that's funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

So move.
If being around brown folks is getting to unpleasant for you then pack your stuff and go to a less diversified area.
Problem solved.

Yawn. Just providing a history to PP who emphasized LONG before he/she joined the community. Situation in MP/Columbia Heights has actually improved a lot, oddly--that coincides with metro opening and gentrification. You know, people like PP moving in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

PP you responded to. I've been here long enough to know better and am not a newcomer. Likewise, I work as an acute care healthcare provider at a local trauma center and care for victims of violence (gang-related and not). I don't need you to educate me what I know from my personal and professional experience.

The drive-by you referenced (which has no hard evidence of being gang-related, but could be) occurred in NE DC, 8+ miles from the neighborhoods of Columbia Heights and Mount Pleasant. You then made the false correlation of that tragedy being related to the "very criminal enriched activity hotbeds" of Mount Pleasant and Columbia Heights. Perhaps you should get your neighborhoods and geography straight.

I was responding to the title of the the thread referencing Mt. Pleasant, as were you. Thanks for your efforts in healthcare. And you are correct, Mt. pleasant has gotten far more hipster/far less violent--which is not to say gang activity is gone. Some has just moved, perhaps to NE DC? That is a side effect of gentrification, which Mt. Pleasant saw at breakneck speed in the 90s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

PP you responded to. I've been here long enough to know better and am not a newcomer. Likewise, I work as an acute care healthcare provider at a local trauma center and care for victims of violence (gang-related and not). I don't need you to educate me what I know from my personal and professional experience.

The drive-by you referenced (which has no hard evidence of being gang-related, but could be) occurred in NE DC, 8+ miles from the neighborhoods of Columbia Heights and Mount Pleasant. You then made the false correlation of that tragedy being related to the "very criminal enriched activity hotbeds" of Mount Pleasant and Columbia Heights. Perhaps you should get your neighborhoods and geography straight.

I was responding to the title of the the thread referencing Mt. Pleasant, as were you. Thanks for your efforts in healthcare. And you are correct, Mt. pleasant has gotten far more hipster/far less violent--which is not to say gang activity is gone. Some has just moved, perhaps to NE DC? That is a side effect of gentrification, which Mt. Pleasant saw at breakneck speed in the 90s.

Mt. Pleasant was kind of a pit in the 90s - riot on Mt. Pleasant Street with tear gas, a serial killer shooting people both there and in Columbia Heights, and drug gangs like the Newton Street Crew with a significant presence. It’s still seriously crappy east of 17th, unless you find passed-out Salvadorans on street corners charming, but it’s certainly better than it was 20-25 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP for informing the people on this board. Some of us don’t just bury our heads in the sand or pretend roses grow out of concrete sidewalks. It’s important that MPD do their job. Thankfully no one was hurt—-immigrant or innocent bystanders. We don’t know if these gang members had weapons on them. MPD should have had each one of them searched. There was just a drive by shooting of gang members which saw a ten year old girl lose her life and other innocent bystanders get shot. Again,I’m grateful that no was hurt, but Mt. Pleasant is a very criminal enriched activity hotbed, alongside Columbia Heights.

...yes, 8 miles away in Lincoln Heights. Do you even live in DC?

I live in Mount Pleasant, am out in the neighborhood on a regular basis, and don't see glaring signs of gang activity. It's unfortunate that, given our current discourse, some think that being brown = being illegal and/or a criminal. There are plenty of Latinos in Mount Pleasant (who were here LONG before I joined the community) and 99.9% of them mind their own business and appear to be law-abiding individuals (although I sense you'd pick a fight with me over whether they are "law-abiding" if they aren't US citizens).

If anything, seeing a fight or criminal activity at 16th and Irving is usually related to a scuffle between teenagers who go to Lincoln/Bell or something that spilled over from Columbia Heights.

Take your pearl clutching elsewhere.

They came in the 80s. When did you join the neighborhood? Gangs are a scourge for these communities. They jump in the kids while the parents are at work. Once you're jumped in (beaten up, raped, have to do something violent to prove your loyalty) you can never get out. Heartbreaking. I'm glad the MPD is on it. As you are new to the neighborhood you probably don't know there used to be point blank executions in a lot of the little parks, and that Malcolm X/ Meridian Hill Park used to be nicknamed Murder Park for the violence there. Gang (not just Latino) and drug related.

PP you responded to. I've been here long enough to know better and am not a newcomer. Likewise, I work as an acute care healthcare provider at a local trauma center and care for victims of violence (gang-related and not). I don't need you to educate me what I know from my personal and professional experience.

The drive-by you referenced (which has no hard evidence of being gang-related, but could be) occurred in NE DC, 8+ miles from the neighborhoods of Columbia Heights and Mount Pleasant. You then made the false correlation of that tragedy being related to the "very criminal enriched activity hotbeds" of Mount Pleasant and Columbia Heights. Perhaps you should get your neighborhoods and geography straight.

I was responding to the title of the the thread referencing Mt. Pleasant, as were you. Thanks for your efforts in healthcare. And you are correct, Mt. pleasant has gotten far more hipster/far less violent--which is not to say gang activity is gone. Some has just moved, perhaps to NE DC? That is a side effect of gentrification, which Mt. Pleasant saw at breakneck speed in the 90s.

Mt. Pleasant was kind of a pit in the 90s - riot on Mt. Pleasant Street with tear gas, a serial killer shooting people both there and in Columbia Heights, and drug gangs like the Newton Street Crew with a significant presence. It’s still seriously crappy east of 17th, unless you find passed-out Salvadorans on street corners charming, but it’s certainly better than it was 20-25 years ago.

True - 2000s, after metro... Thanks for the correction. I still find it a bit of a pit. The "development" could have been far more thoughtful and charming. Am glad they kept that theater, or at least the facade.

[Anonymous]

Columbia Heights is literally an urban boardwalk. Many of the retailers are closing. Of course Nadeau is offering businesses that have been in the area $50K per year for four years to help them.

After the businesses are shuttered the plan is to turn all of the empty store fronts into affordable housing for immigrants and homeless.

Then the proposed Basic Minimum Income will kick in and your taxes will go through the roof and home values will crater.

Enjoy the halcyon days my friends.