Are the Service Academies Prestigious?

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Anonymous wrote:The Air Force Academy isn't all that prestigious, but West Point and Annapolis are. But it's still very specialized. Grads concentrate in engineering, defense contracting, etc. I've heard from others that they have a fairly low percentage who go on to professional schools, largely because they have multi-year service commitments and a lot of them end up getting married too, are fairly far along in their careers when they finally go civilian.

In terms of prestige, I would put them a notch or two below the ivy league foremost employers. But for some employers, particularly those in the defense industry, probably a notch above.

Maybe the ones who exit as soon as their military commitment is done don’t go on to additional schooling,but career officers usually have multiple masters degrees by the time they retire. They may not be from top 10 schools but they are often given a year just to focus on school. Heck, my FIL got an MBA from UVA in the Air Force and went on to get PhD in economics from Wharton way back in the 60s.

I agree on their graduates not being in top professional schools. I had only one service academy grad in my law school class, and I just asked my wife about her medical school class and she had none. We were both in top 10 schools.

I personally know service academy graduates with PhDs from Harvard, Princeton, Chicago, and Oxford, so you and your wife are pretty ignorant.

This is a pretty dumb comment. Why am I ignorant? I went to Columbia for law school, while my wife went there for medical school at the same time. One service academy grad in my class, and none in hers. I can't change those facts. Maybe they were all at Harvard, Princeton, Chicago, and Oxford getting PhDs, but they definitely weren't at Columbia in law (except for one) or medicine at that time (not giving the exact year, to keep some anonymity, but not ancient here).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are among the most selective of our higher ed institutions. Are they considered presitigious?

yes. esp in engineering but really all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Air Force Academy isn't all that prestigious, but West Point and Annapolis are. But it's still very specialized. Grads concentrate in engineering, defense contracting, etc. I've heard from others that they have a fairly low percentage who go on to professional schools, largely because they have multi-year service commitments and a lot of them end up getting married too, are fairly far along in their careers when they finally go civilian.

In terms of prestige, I would put them a notch or two below the ivy league foremost employers. But for some employers, particularly those in the defense industry, probably a notch above.

Agree, based on people I know from top schools (incl. Ivy), West Point, and the Naval Academy. It's a specialized group so they're almost not comparable, but overall they are rigorous and prestigious. On par, but different, than top 20 schools. More selective in some ways.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Air Force Academy isn't all that prestigious, but West Point and Annapolis are. But it's still very specialized. Grads concentrate in engineering, defense contracting, etc. I've heard from others that they have a fairly low percentage who go on to professional schools, largely because they have multi-year service commitments and a lot of them end up getting married too, are fairly far along in their careers when they finally go civilian.

In terms of prestige, I would put them a notch or two below the ivy league foremost employers. But for some employers, particularly those in the defense industry, probably a notch above.

Maybe the ones who exit as soon as their military commitment is done don’t go on to additional schooling,but career officers usually have multiple masters degrees by the time they retire. They may not be from top 10 schools but they are often given a year just to focus on school. Heck, my FIL got an MBA from UVA in the Air Force and went on to get PhD in economics from Wharton way back in the 60s.

I agree on their graduates not being in top professional schools. I had only one service academy grad in my law school class, and I just asked my wife about her medical school class and she had none. We were both in top 10 schools.

I personally know service academy graduates with PhDs from Harvard, Princeton, Chicago, and Oxford, so you and your wife are pretty ignorant.

This is a pretty dumb comment. Why am I ignorant? I went to Columbia for law school, while my wife went there for medical school at the same time. One service academy grad in my class, and none in hers. I can't change those facts. Maybe they were all at Harvard, Princeton, Chicago, and Oxford getting PhDs, but they definitely weren't at Columbia in law (except for one) or medicine at that time (not giving the exact year, to keep some anonymity, but not ancient here).

Well we know from Harvard Law’s website that there’s at least one in the current 1L class from both West Point and Annapolis. I kinda doubt they’re the only two currently enrolled there (if it is only two; could be more). Maybe they’re skipping Columbia Law for better-ranked Harvard?

[Anonymous]

Then there’s this:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1995/6/27/first-top-female-cadet-enrolls-at/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are among the most selective of our higher ed institutions. Are they considered presitigious?

yes. esp in engineering but really all around.

But they come with such strings attached. They are institutions of higher ed, yes, but with a six year military service commitment attached. That makes them "prestigious" only to certain people.

[Anonymous]

And it turns out that the president of Harvard Law’s 2018 class, which just graduated, is a West Point grad. https:

Sorry, Mr & Mrs Columbia, but you’re wrong.



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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are among the most selective of our higher ed institutions. Are they considered presitigious?

yes. esp in engineering but really all around.

But they come with such strings attached. They are institutions of higher ed, yes, but with a six year military service commitment attached. That makes them "prestigious" only to certain people.

You are truly a moron. Just because not everyone is interested doesn’t make them less prestigious. Where do you people come from?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are among the most selective of our higher ed institutions. Are they considered presitigious?

yes. esp in engineering but really all around.

But they come with such strings attached. They are institutions of higher ed, yes, but with a six year military service commitment attached. That makes them "prestigious" only to certain people.

You are truly a moron. Just because not everyone is interested doesn’t make them less prestigious. Where do you people come from?

" Not everyone is interested" is a bit of an understatement. No need for the name-calling. It's prestigious with certain people.

[Anonymous]

Our current Secretary of State is a Harvard Law graduate — after West Point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are among the most selective of our higher ed institutions. Are they considered presitigious?

yes. esp in engineering but really all around.

But they come with such strings attached. They are institutions of higher ed, yes, but with a six year military service commitment attached. That makes them "prestigious" only to certain people.

Most employers, like those on the list up-thread, find theses service academy grads desirable because of their 6 years of service.

[Anonymous]

A kid at DC's boarding school got accepted but chose Penn. He wants to go to Wharton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are among the most selective of our higher ed institutions. Are they considered presitigious?

yes. esp in engineering but really all around.

But they come with such strings attached. They are institutions of higher ed, yes, but with a six year military service commitment attached. That makes them "prestigious" only to certain people.

You are truly a moron. Just because not everyone is interested doesn’t make them less prestigious. Where do you people come from?

" Not everyone is interested" is a bit of an understatement. No need for the name-calling. It's prestigious with certain people.

The acceptance rate at Annapolis is 9 percent and at West Point 10. Ivy League rates. Clearly many are interested. Moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A kid at DC's boarding school got accepted but chose Penn. He wants to go to Wharton.

Further proof that it’s prestigious. It was on the short list for this Ivy caliber kid.

This isn’t even up for debate except among the truly clueless and ignorant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are among the most selective of our higher ed institutions. Are they considered presitigious?

yes. esp in engineering but really all around.

But they come with such strings attached. They are institutions of higher ed, yes, but with a six year military service commitment attached. That makes them "prestigious" only to certain people.

You are truly a moron. Just because not everyone is interested doesn’t make them less prestigious. Where do you people come from?

" Not everyone is interested" is a bit of an understatement. No need for the name-calling. It's prestigious with certain people.

The acceptance rate at Annapolis is 9 percent and at West Point 10. Ivy League rates. Clearly many are interested. Moron.

Really? Compare the number of applicants to the service academies to the Ivy league schools.