50% of all high school seniors have an A average GPA

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Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

I've also seen studies, and a recent Wall Street Journal article this month, that say the opposite. Also, what constitutes college success? DS is currently in advanced physics and calculus courses at a top 20 university but he will get a B in those courses. His cousins, will both graduate from college with nearly straight A's but they refuse to take any math or science courses because of the tough grading. One is majoring in illustration, the other in education. I guess, they are "doing better" in college, but are they really?

Your a lunatic. Why the F do you know your nephews grades.

Success is getting a degree in something you will enjoy and beingbable to be gainfully employed. A study shows that students in the top 1/3 of an average college do better job wise than kids in the lower 1/3 of an Ivy. .. simply because the Ivy kids can't handle not bring the best. It's pathetic.

Studies also show kids that think a B is bad score drop out of science at an alarming rate and it's not because they can't do it,it's because their ridiculous parents can't handle B's.

It's not a cullingbsystrm. We need an educated country, we should educate everybody we can and who wants an education.

It is my DS (son) not nephew. And, I know his grades because he tells me. He just called and said he got a 69 on advanced physics test but he isn't worried because he'll pass the class. We said "ok," carry on. One could argue that he doesn't need to tell me his grades, but we are paying the bills. (I also know a bit about his female cousins' grades because the parents tell us.) The point being, in college, just like in high school, grades are not the definitive definition of success.

You said you know his cousins grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

I've also seen studies, and a recent Wall Street Journal article this month, that say the opposite. Also, what constitutes college success? DS is currently in advanced physics and calculus courses at a top 20 university but he will get a B in those courses. His cousins, will both graduate from college with nearly straight A's but they refuse to take any math or science courses because of the tough grading. One is majoring in illustration, the other in education. I guess, they are "doing better" in college, but are they really?

Your a lunatic. Why the F do you know your nephews grades.

Success is getting a degree in something you will enjoy and beingbable to be gainfully employed. A study shows that students in the top 1/3 of an average college do better job wise than kids in the lower 1/3 of an Ivy. .. simply because the Ivy kids can't handle not bring the best. It's pathetic.

Studies also show kids that think a B is bad score drop out of science at an alarming rate and it's not because they can't do it,it's because their ridiculous parents can't handle B's.

It's not a cullingbsystrm. We need an educated country, we should educate everybody we can and who wants an education.

It is my DS (son) not nephew. And, I know his grades because he tells me. He just called and said he got a 69 on advanced physics test but he isn't worried because he'll pass the class. We said "ok," carry on. One could argue that he doesn't need to tell me his grades, but we are paying the bills. (I also know a bit about his female cousins' grades because the parents tell us.) The point being, in college, just like in high school, grades are not the definitive definition of success.

Your comments imply that you think that your nieces are not successful or that your son is somehow better than them because he’s majoring in a science and they’re majoring in education/illustration. Why?

NP. You're being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. Clearly getting a degree in illustration (WTF?) is not as intellectually rigorous or demanding. In fact, one could argue that it doesn't even belong in a university, as is the case in much of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

I've also seen studies, and a recent Wall Street Journal article this month, that say the opposite. Also, what constitutes college success? DS is currently in advanced physics and calculus courses at a top 20 university but he will get a B in those courses. His cousins, will both graduate from college with nearly straight A's but they refuse to take any math or science courses because of the tough grading. One is majoring in illustration, the other in education. I guess, they are "doing better" in college, but are they really?

Ok but why does someone need to be doing “better” and someone doing worse? What are you getting out of keeping score like that? Your nieces are getting great grades in subject areas that presumably interest them/that they enjoy, same with your son. Why the comparisons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

I've also seen studies, and a recent Wall Street Journal article this month, that say the opposite. Also, what constitutes college success? DS is currently in advanced physics and calculus courses at a top 20 university but he will get a B in those courses. His cousins, will both graduate from college with nearly straight A's but they refuse to take any math or science courses because of the tough grading. One is majoring in illustration, the other in education. I guess, they are "doing better" in college, but are they really?

Your a lunatic. Why the F do you know your nephews grades.

Success is getting a degree in something you will enjoy and beingbable to be gainfully employed. A study shows that students in the top 1/3 of an average college do better job wise than kids in the lower 1/3 of an Ivy. .. simply because the Ivy kids can't handle not bring the best. It's pathetic.

Studies also show kids that think a B is bad score drop out of science at an alarming rate and it's not because they can't do it,it's because their ridiculous parents can't handle B's.

It's not a cullingbsystrm. We need an educated country, we should educate everybody we can and who wants an education.

It is my DS (son) not nephew. And, I know his grades because he tells me. He just called and said he got a 69 on advanced physics test but he isn't worried because he'll pass the class. We said "ok," carry on. One could argue that he doesn't need to tell me his grades, but we are paying the bills. (I also know a bit about his female cousins' grades because the parents tell us.) The point being, in college, just like in high school, grades are not the definitive definition of success.

Your comments imply that you think that your nieces are not successful or that your son is somehow better than them because he’s majoring in a science and they’re majoring in education/illustration. Why?

Calm down. I'm not this pp but it is well known that many of the math/science classes are "weed out" courses. I've heard that it is not unusual for a class average on a test to be in the 50ish% range.

Look up GPA averages for college majors and you will see that there are some science/math majors with significantly lower GPAs than other majors. It doesn't mean that a Physics major isn't as smart or working just as hard as (or even harder than) a creative writing major, though. They are just very different subjects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

I've also seen studies, and a recent Wall Street Journal article this month, that say the opposite. Also, what constitutes college success? DS is currently in advanced physics and calculus courses at a top 20 university but he will get a B in those courses. His cousins, will both graduate from college with nearly straight A's but they refuse to take any math or science courses because of the tough grading. One is majoring in illustration, the other in education. I guess, they are "doing better" in college, but are they really?

Your a lunatic. Why the F do you know your nephews grades.

Success is getting a degree in something you will enjoy and beingbable to be gainfully employed. A study shows that students in the top 1/3 of an average college do better job wise than kids in the lower 1/3 of an Ivy. .. simply because the Ivy kids can't handle not bring the best. It's pathetic.

Studies also show kids that think a B is bad score drop out of science at an alarming rate and it's not because they can't do it,it's because their ridiculous parents can't handle B's.

It's not a cullingbsystrm. We need an educated country, we should educate everybody we can and who wants an education.

It is my DS (son) not nephew. And, I know his grades because he tells me. He just called and said he got a 69 on advanced physics test but he isn't worried because he'll pass the class. We said "ok," carry on. One could argue that he doesn't need to tell me his grades, but we are paying the bills. (I also know a bit about his female cousins' grades because the parents tell us.) The point being, in college, just like in high school, grades are not the definitive definition of success.

Your comments imply that you think that your nieces are not successful or that your son is somehow better than them because he’s majoring in a science and they’re majoring in education/illustration. Why?

NP. You're being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. Clearly getting a degree in illustration (WTF?) is not as intellectually rigorous or demanding. In fact, one could argue that it doesn't even belong in a university, as is the case in much of the world.

Illustration is graphics design and literally ever book you read needs an illustrator to create the book cover, every album cover, every advertisement, poster, etc. Are you dense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

I've also seen studies, and a recent Wall Street Journal article this month, that say the opposite. Also, what constitutes college success? DS is currently in advanced physics and calculus courses at a top 20 university but he will get a B in those courses. His cousins, will both graduate from college with nearly straight A's but they refuse to take any math or science courses because of the tough grading. One is majoring in illustration, the other in education. I guess, they are "doing better" in college, but are they really?

No of course not. I doubt anyone would say that. BTW, is there good money in illustration.

[Anonymous]

Most people in this world could not successfully earn or handle a degree in illustration.

If your niece has the skill, creativity and talent to be a successful illustrator and earn a degree in illustration, she must be very gifted.

She is doing something most people could never do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

A's are being given away at many schools. Not meaningful.

So what... and C's get degrees. Get a life.

Thanks, but I have a great life. There was mention of why not just grades should be considered for college admissions.Easy A's at many schools complicate the process. I think we're all aware of C students who go to college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why I am glad my ds chose to do the IB program. His papers and exams are not only graded by his teachers, but also by the IB examiners. If his teachers aren’t teaching, everyone will know. It holds everyone to a higher standard. He doesn’t have a 4.0, but colleges will know that he is prepared.

Um, no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I would love to see a 100 point scale, and a push towards greater consistency nationwide. I admit our private school gives a lot of credit in taking AP exams even for the unweighted GPA- I.e a B grade preAP gets up to an A if you get a 5 on the exam. But an A stays an A. So a college really has no way of differentiating our top students.

My kids school does the same. College admissions reps from holistic admission schools know the high school in their regions and ask for ours to report grades with the AP exam factored in the GPA and without.

That’s the check in all of this. Reps who know the high schools curriculums can distinguish between the students who challenged themselves and those who didn’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I am glad my ds chose to do the IB program. His papers and exams are not only graded by his teachers, but also by the IB examiners. If his teachers aren’t teaching, everyone will know. It holds everyone to a higher standard. He doesn’t have a 4.0, but colleges will know that he is prepared.

Um, no

Wasn’t asking for opinions. He’ll be applying to some top LACs next year with a 34 ACT and a 3.8 UW GPA. We’ll talk then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I am glad my ds chose to do the IB program. His papers and exams are not only graded by his teachers, but also by the IB examiners. If his teachers aren’t teaching, everyone will know. It holds everyone to a higher standard. He doesn’t have a 4.0, but colleges will know that he is prepared.

Um, no

Wasn’t asking for opinions. He’ll be applying to some top LACs next year with a 34 ACT and a 3.8 UW GPA. We’ll talk then.

Amazing how fast the world of college admissions has changed. Just a year or two ago I'd have said these are good enough for almost any of the top LACs, but now, after what I saw this year., no. Those stats alone are not going to be good enough. {And they are terrific BTW, don't get me wrong}, but those alone won't do it. Apropos of the topic title, stats like that aren't uncommon anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not supposed to be a culling system.

If you can get an A you should get an A.

Even if you don't like it GPA no matter how hard the school is the greatest predictor of college success.

A's are being given away at many schools. Not meaningful.

So what... and C's get degrees. Get a life.

Thanks, but I have a great life. There was mention of why not just grades should be considered for college admissions.Easy A's at many schools complicate the process. I think we're all aware of C students who go to college.

Easy A's don't complicate the process. It just complicates your master plan.

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I question the 50% figure. More like 20%, maybe, at my DC's APS HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I am glad my ds chose to do the IB program. His papers and exams are not only graded by his teachers, but also by the IB examiners. If his teachers aren’t teaching, everyone will know. It holds everyone to a higher standard. He doesn’t have a 4.0, but colleges will know that he is prepared.

Um, no

Wasn’t asking for opinions. He’ll be applying to some top LACs next year with a 34 ACT and a 3.8 UW GPA. We’ll talk then.

Amazing how fast the world of college admissions has changed. Just a year or two ago I'd have said these are good enough for almost any of the top LACs, but now, after what I saw this year., no. Those stats alone are not going to be good enough. {And they are terrific BTW, don't get me wrong}, but those alone won't do it. Apropos of the topic title, stats like that aren't uncommon anymore.

My junior is studying very hard for the April ACT. Trying for a 35 because DC fears a 33 or 34 won’t be good enough for his top choice (Grinnell). Sounds like DC may be right.