APS Interesting Responses to Walk Zone Survey

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the responses from 46010 saying that they would walk every day to fleet, but can't walk safely to ANY OTHER school made me laugh.
That zone goes across Columbia Pike to get to Fleet, and walks nearly a mile. It would also be less than a mile crossing Walter Reed to Drew. Or less than a mile crossing Glebe to Randolph.
I get it- you don't want to go to those schools- but to say you can safely cross Columbia Pike but not the other ones is a little silly.

That section of Douglas park is the new Arlington forest. A lot of people bought there thinking they had very cleverly saved some coin instead of moving to Arlington heights to gain access to Henry. They feel stupid and angry now and are gonna take it out on aps.

Please. No one saved money “buying” into Henry. They paid for access to that school, and now they are screwed. Of course they don’t live north of 50, so they don’t get to complain.
I f#cking hate this county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s pretty likely that APS staff will recommend that Key be made a neighborhood school. The question is whether they will designate ASFS as an option site for a relatively easy switch since the majority of the kids at ASFS live in Key zone or if they will designate another site and trigger an all out war.

My vote is for an all out war. My kids are past ES but I’m tired of having an ES in my neighborhood that almost no one who lives within walking distance is allowed to attend. Frankly, I am tired of all the option schools. As many have said, they are a luxury we can no longer afford.

I hope you will get people to go to open office hours with the school board 5-7 pm on Mondays. And send letters to [e-mail]. They need to hear your voice to recommend change.

You bought your house knowing you didn't have guaranteed access to ATS. They're not going to do away with the the option programs. But they might relocate them, so you're just advocating for your complaint to be shuffled to another neighborhood. NIMBY, what Bluemont does best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the responses from 46010 saying that they would walk every day to fleet, but can't walk safely to ANY OTHER school made me laugh.
That zone goes across Columbia Pike to get to Fleet, and walks nearly a mile. It would also be less than a mile crossing Walter Reed to Drew. Or less than a mile crossing Glebe to Randolph.
I get it- you don't want to go to those schools- but to say you can safely cross Columbia Pike but not the other ones is a little silly.

That section of Douglas park is the new Arlington forest. A lot of people bought there thinking they had very cleverly saved some coin instead of moving to Arlington heights to gain access to Henry. They feel stupid and angry now and are gonna take it out on aps.

Please. No one saved money “buying” into Henry. They paid for access to that school, and now they are screwed. Of course they don’t live north of 50, so they don’t get to complain.
I f#cking hate this county.

Well, that was silly. You should've ponied up for the walk zone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the responses from 46010 saying that they would walk every day to fleet, but can't walk safely to ANY OTHER school made me laugh.
That zone goes across Columbia Pike to get to Fleet, and walks nearly a mile. It would also be less than a mile crossing Walter Reed to Drew. Or less than a mile crossing Glebe to Randolph.
I get it- you don't want to go to those schools- but to say you can safely cross Columbia Pike but not the other ones is a little silly.

That section of Douglas park is the new Arlington forest. A lot of people bought there thinking they had very cleverly saved some coin instead of moving to Arlington heights to gain access to Henry. They feel stupid and angry now and are gonna take it out on aps.

Please. No one saved money “buying” into Henry. They paid for access to that school, and now they are screwed. Of course they don’t live north of 50, so they don’t get to complain.
I f#cking hate this county.

Well, that was silly. You should've ponied up for the walk zone.

So silly. They didn’t take the Northie seminar : “How to hide your latent racism and/or classism in a magic word - WALKABILITY”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s pretty likely that APS staff will recommend that Key be made a neighborhood school. The question is whether they will designate ASFS as an option site for a relatively easy switch since the majority of the kids at ASFS live in Key zone or if they will designate another site and trigger an all out war.

My vote is for an all out war. My kids are past ES but I’m tired of having an ES in my neighborhood that almost no one who lives within walking distance is allowed to attend. Frankly, I am tired of all the option schools. As many have said, they are a luxury we can no longer afford.

I hope you will get people to go to open office hours with the school board 5-7 pm on Mondays. And send letters to [e-mail]. They need to hear your voice to recommend change.

You bought your house knowing you didn't have guaranteed access to ATS. They're not going to do away with the the option programs. But they might relocate them, so you're just advocating for your complaint to be shuffled to another neighborhood. NIMBY, what Bluemont does best.

And yet another poster quick to criticize without reading the post, which had nothing to do with living in Bluemont or within walking distance of ATS or advocating shuffling an option program from one neighborhood to another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s pretty likely that APS staff will recommend that Key be made a neighborhood school. The question is whether they will designate ASFS as an option site for a relatively easy switch since the majority of the kids at ASFS live in Key zone or if they will designate another site and trigger an all out war.

My vote is for an all out war. My kids are past ES but I’m tired of having an ES in my neighborhood that almost no one who lives within walking distance is allowed to attend. Frankly, I am tired of all the option schools. As many have said, they are a luxury we can no longer afford.

I hope you will get people to go to open office hours with the school board 5-7 pm on Mondays. And send letters to [e-mail]. They need to hear your voice to recommend change.

You bought your house knowing you didn't have guaranteed access to ATS. They're not going to do away with the the option programs. But they might relocate them, so you're just advocating for your complaint to be shuffled to another neighborhood. NIMBY, what Bluemont does best.

And yet another poster quick to criticize without reading the post, which had nothing to do with living in Bluemont or within walking distance of ATS or advocating shuffling an option program from one neighborhood to another.

Again, you knew the deal when you bought near ASFS. It hasn't been a neighborhood school for THAT neighborhood for as long as anyone here has lived in Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the responses from 46010 saying that they would walk every day to fleet, but can't walk safely to ANY OTHER school made me laugh.
That zone goes across Columbia Pike to get to Fleet, and walks nearly a mile. It would also be less than a mile crossing Walter Reed to Drew. Or less than a mile crossing Glebe to Randolph.
I get it- you don't want to go to those schools- but to say you can safely cross Columbia Pike but not the other ones is a little silly.

That section of Douglas park is the new Arlington forest. A lot of people bought there thinking they had very cleverly saved some coin instead of moving to Arlington heights to gain access to Henry. They feel stupid and angry now and are gonna take it out on aps.

Please. No one saved money “buying” into Henry. They paid for access to that school, and now they are screwed. Of course they don’t live north of 50, so they don’t get to complain.
I f#cking hate this county.

+1. I notice a lot of vitriol toward Henry-zoned parents on this board. But it’s okay for everyone else to kick and scream when they might be rezoned. No one feels “stupid” or “angry” - just concerned because there’s a lot at stake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s pretty likely that APS staff will recommend that Key be made a neighborhood school. The question is whether they will designate ASFS as an option site for a relatively easy switch since the majority of the kids at ASFS live in Key zone or if they will designate another site and trigger an all out war.

My vote is for an all out war. My kids are past ES but I’m tired of having an ES in my neighborhood that almost no one who lives within walking distance is allowed to attend. Frankly, I am tired of all the option schools. As many have said, they are a luxury we can no longer afford.

I hope you will get people to go to open office hours with the school board 5-7 pm on Mondays. And send letters to [e-mail]. They need to hear your voice to recommend change.

You bought your house knowing you didn't have guaranteed access to ATS. They're not going to do away with the the option programs. But they might relocate them, so you're just advocating for your complaint to be shuffled to another neighborhood. NIMBY, what Bluemont does best.

And yet another poster quick to criticize without reading the post, which had nothing to do with living in Bluemont or within walking distance of ATS or advocating shuffling an option program from one neighborhood to another.

Again, you knew the deal when you bought near ASFS. It hasn't been a neighborhood school for THAT neighborhood for as long as anyone here has lived in Arlington.

Actually, when we bought our house ASFS wasn’t a neighborhood school for anyone and anyone on the team could attend ASFS if they wanted. Plus anyone in Arlington could attend, APS just did not provide transportation. So, up until less than ten years ago there were kids at ASFS whose home schools were Glebe, Oakridge and Nottingham to name a few. So the “deal” was quite different when I bought my house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s pretty likely that APS staff will recommend that Key be made a neighborhood school. The question is whether they will designate ASFS as an option site for a relatively easy switch since the majority of the kids at ASFS live in Key zone or if they will designate another site and trigger an all out war.

My vote is for an all out war. My kids are past ES but I’m tired of having an ES in my neighborhood that almost no one who lives within walking distance is allowed to attend. Frankly, I am tired of all the option schools. As many have said, they are a luxury we can no longer afford.

I hope you will get people to go to open office hours with the school board 5-7 pm on Mondays. And send letters to [e-mail]. They need to hear your voice to recommend change.

You bought your house knowing you didn't have guaranteed access to ATS. They're not going to do away with the the option programs. But they might relocate them, so you're just advocating for your complaint to be shuffled to another neighborhood. NIMBY, what Bluemont does best.

And yet another poster quick to criticize without reading the post, which had nothing to do with living in Bluemont or within walking distance of ATS or advocating shuffling an option program from one neighborhood to another.

Again, you knew the deal when you bought near ASFS. It hasn't been a neighborhood school for THAT neighborhood for as long as anyone here has lived in Arlington.

Actually, when we bought our house ASFS wasn’t a neighborhood school for anyone and anyone on the team could attend ASFS if they wanted. Plus anyone in Arlington could attend, APS just did not provide transportation. So, up until less than ten years ago there were kids at ASFS whose home schools were Glebe, Oakridge and Nottingham to name a few. So the “deal” was quite different when I bought my house.

That’s because it was under enrolled. You can transfer to any elementary in the county if it is underenrolled, regardless of team or what not.

Did you oppose the key school immersion, which setup the ASFS neighborhood? But either way your neighborhood school was never ASFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the responses from 46010 saying that they would walk every day to fleet, but can't walk safely to ANY OTHER school made me laugh.
That zone goes across Columbia Pike to get to Fleet, and walks nearly a mile. It would also be less than a mile crossing Walter Reed to Drew. Or less than a mile crossing Glebe to Randolph.
I get it- you don't want to go to those schools- but to say you can safely cross Columbia Pike but not the other ones is a little silly.

That section of Douglas park is the new Arlington forest. A lot of people bought there thinking they had very cleverly saved some coin instead of moving to Arlington heights to gain access to Henry. They feel stupid and angry now and are gonna take it out on aps.

Please. No one saved money “buying” into Henry. They paid for access to that school, and now they are screwed. Of course they don’t live north of 50, so they don’t get to complain.
I f#cking hate this county.

+1. I notice a lot of vitriol toward Henry-zoned parents on this board. But it’s okay for everyone else to kick and scream when they might be rezoned. No one feels “stupid” or “angry” - just concerned because there’s a lot at stake.

Specifically, what is "at stake"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see the APS walk zone responses so far. Here is what I noticed thus far:

Tuckahoe vs. Nottingham
Tuckahoe had hundreds of people respond. They are trying to make a land grab for Nottingham’s planning units to increase their walkers.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Tuckahoe-Walk-Zone-Closed.xlsx

Nottingham has fairly low response rate and doesn’t want to expand their walk zone. Appears Tuckahoe May outmobikoxe them.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Nottingham-Walk-Zone-Closed.xlsx

Key vs. Science Focus
Key neighbors appear to want a neighborhood school. Tons of responses indicating it’s walkability. You can see on the map that they could easily have 350 walkers in a neighborhood school. Last year, 569 students in the Key zone transferred out.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Key-Walk-Zone-Closed.xlsx

Meanwhile, almost a third of Science Focus people said not to expand their 150-kid walk zone at all! Most of the rest only suppprted adding a couple of tiny units. Hmmmm... good candidate for an option school? Data seems to support the idea of a switch between ASFS and Key buildings.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Science-Focus-Walk-Zone-Closed.xlsx

ATS
Very low response - fewer than 70 people. But the vast majority of those seemed to want to expand the walk zone by adding a crossing guard at Wilson and George Mason, which would add a lot of walkers. Perhaps ATS is a good site for a neighborhood school after all. I have to wonder if the neighbors around ATS didn’t realize they could fill out the survey. Or since so many neighbors go to ATS, if they don’t ask to expand the walk zone, ATS stays option.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Arlington-Traditional-Walk-Closed.xlsx

Others
Another idea I have been hearing is to put the option programs at schools that are not thriving and that have a lot of transfers out. Barcroft had 297 transfers out. Abingdon 413. Carlin Springs 352.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Transfer-Report-2016-17.pdf


Interested to hear what others are seeing in the data.

What does 569 students in the Key zone transferred out mean? I’m new here.

[Anonymous]

Previously, families zoned for Key (Spanish immersion) could transfer to Science Focus automatically. This year, Science Focus is now a “neighborhood” school and Key becomes countywide option. The 569 indicates that many kids chose NOT to do immersion and wanted a neighborhood kind of school. It indicates we would have 569 kids in the Jey neighborhood - most who could walk if that school were a neighborhood school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Previously, families zoned for Key (Spanish immersion) could transfer to Science Focus automatically. This year, Science Focus is now a “neighborhood” school and Key becomes countywide option. The 569 indicates that many kids chose NOT to do immersion and wanted a neighborhood kind of school. It indicates we would have 569 kids in the Jey neighborhood - most who could walk if that school were a neighborhood school.

Ok, so it sounds like the vast majority of Lyon Village families in the Key/ASFS zone were choosing ASFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Previously, families zoned for Key (Spanish immersion) could transfer to Science Focus automatically. This year, Science Focus is now a “neighborhood” school and Key becomes countywide option. The 569 indicates that many kids chose NOT to do immersion and wanted a neighborhood kind of school. It indicates we would have 569 kids in the Jey neighborhood - most who could walk if that school were a neighborhood school.

Ok, so it sounds like the vast majority of Lyon Village families in the Key/ASFS zone were choosing ASFS.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think most (maybe all) of Lyon Village is zoned Taylor, not Key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s pretty likely that APS staff will recommend that Key be made a neighborhood school. The question is whether they will designate ASFS as an option site for a relatively easy switch since the majority of the kids at ASFS live in Key zone or if they will designate another site and trigger an all out war.

My vote is for an all out war. My kids are past ES but I’m tired of having an ES in my neighborhood that almost no one who lives within walking distance is allowed to attend. Frankly, I am tired of all the option schools. As many have said, they are a luxury we can no longer afford.

I hope you will get people to go to open office hours with the school board 5-7 pm on Mondays. And send letters to [e-mail]. They need to hear your voice to recommend change.

Yes, please let them know that because YOU don't like option schools it's time for the County to do away with all of them. Say what? There's thousands of kids in option programs at ATS, Campbell, Montessori and Immersion? They don't matter, the only thing that counts is if YOU are happy. And by "going to war" I assume you mean screwing the next neighborhood over so you can get your way.