OP here. At first I was dismissive of UGA as well but my daughter did some research on their honors program and it seems pretty damn selective. She's hoping to win one of the named scholarships but out of the gate she did well with the OOS fee waiver. In looking at these stats they are comparable to some pretty damn good schools (the average SAT is the same as Dartmouths') so that's what makes me wonder. And I will admit part of this is financial and part of it is having her work hard but also have a good,fun, college experience. That's the conundrum. https://honors.uga.edu/p_s/first-year_profile_this_year.html |
My thoughts exactly. Does it still have a strung music scene? |
They're bribing you to attend. Ask yourself why do they need to do that... |
Pretty girls with marketing degrees will always get good offers. But the savviest girls at southern colleges are on the prowl for a filthy rich boy and will be married by age 23. |
OP here. Thank you for sharing your perspective as there is some truth to it. Unfortunately, at this point in life I can be bought
We are not full pay so our family requires a discount in the form of merit aid. And while some colleges don't have to discount because of demand - schools like NYU,BC,GU - these are usually brand names schools with desirable urban locations (and strong international demand) and some will discount if you meet their high bar of admission (wealthy full need schools) the vast majority of schools need to discount to fill their classes. $65.000-$70,000.00 per year is a list price that doesn't create a tenable market. The pricing model for higher education seems to be very similar to the airlines. So as a parent I am trying to find the best value for my children's education. They will not attend the "best" school that grants them admission but we are working to find the best value. And that's a valuable lesson for my children to learn. What I am trying to ascertain is where is UGA Honors on that value chain ? Tulane also offered my DD a bribe in that she was awarded a $30,000 discount in the form of a merit aid scholarship. And while Tulane is not a Top 20 school, it's' a good school. So it becomes an equation - is UGA Honors @ 25,000 COA a year a better value and fit than Tulane @ 37,500 COA ? I am fully expecting other offers as the admissions process continues but my DD has a sincere interest in UGA. And frankly, given the ranking game, I suspect both colleges are trying to buy DD's stats, in particular the 4.0 and the 1550 SAT. That's ok - it's a market and like most markets the value you can extract from it comes down to the participant's access to information. |
Right but if it were that great of a school it wouldn't need to have an HONORS program. |
Op here. Point taken. |
What does your daughter want to major in and do after college? |
| The downside of UGA is that it is mostly Georgia residents and most grads will end up in Atlanta. If that's where your daughter wants to end up that's fine. Atlanta has good employment opportunities. Fewer UGA grads will be chasing jobs on Wall Street, fashion, Silicon Valley etc. There is a huge football and Greek culture and both dominate over academics. The smart UGA grads I knew went straight to law school and most of them because they couldn't find other jobs. I wouldn't send my daughter out of state to UGA unless it kept her from taking on significant student loans. I'd also have a plan for summer internships as they aren't going to have many in Athens. |
OP here. A little undecided - two top contenders are International Relations or Medicine. If International Relations I have been advocating for a foundation in economics. |
| International relations seems like you would want to be near DC if you were serious about it . |
OP here. Thank you - helpful post. Definitely trying to not have her or us loaded up with debt. I don't see my DD wanting to stay in Atlanta. I would not advocate for Wall Street, frankly I would be dead set against it. I could see law school or an IR masters. Question would be is can UGA Honors act as a feeder to the top grad schools ? That I don't know. I would think it would have a hard time competing against the top 10 LACs. I do know friends of mine that recruit have had good success with state school honors kids. Hard working, smart, and not entitled. I suspect they may have more grit which is a valuable life skill/trait. Thanks for taking the time to post. |
OP here. Agreed, but GU doesn't give money. Suggested American but I suspect it would be hard on morale as DD would feel it was a step down from GU. Still advocating for it. Thought about Tufts but same problem as GU with regard to $$$. Applying to a couple of other schools that are need blind that may give dollars. Also, suggesting economics undergrad, law or IR grad. |
PP here. She can definitely get in a top grad school from UGA. Really from any school. BUT - I wouldn't force your daughter to decide what she wants to do at such a young age. She may change her mind many many times. Part of college is finding out who you are and what you're interested in. |
| I'm originally from Atlanta and had many friends who went to UGA's honors college. Especially if the price is right, I wouldn't hesitate to send your kid there. The program is very well resourced, and my friends had amazing opportunities while they're there. Most of them no longer live in GA, multiple lived abroad for stints, many continued on to great grad school programs. And if the worst case scenario is that your kid lives and works in Atlanta, well, Atlanta is way better than DC is many, many ways. |