Prep material for Cogat, please suggest

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Anonymous wrote:Prepping as in sending your already above average kid to Kumon is nuts. But I assume that is not what you intend to do, right?

Buying a CoGat workbook so that your child can go over a few pages with you and become familiar with test format and analogies and logic puzzles is not crazy. That is not gaming the system. It is being a conscientious parent who wants their child to not be stunned and paralyzed when they sit down to a new test.

The test was designed to take into account children who are stunned and paralyzed. That is gaming the test, as we all know. It is not illegal or invalidating, since the Cogat is not a true IQ test. For a true IQ test, that sort of prepping is invalidating.

I am the PP of the post you quoted - yes and no.

Teachers are supposed to go over proper test taking technique. Kids should have been exposed to the conventions of following test directions and reading comprehension technique and analogies and puzzle books by now. But not everyone has had this exposure. Not all teachers are good. Not all teachers speak loudly enough in a large room like this. Not all testing coordinators are thorough.

So if you think taking 15 minutes to show my child what an analogy is is screwing up your or another child's chances, then I think that's straight up silly and I'd be happy to show your kid what these things are too so that they are legitimately and smartly in the know about how to read and respond to a question. It's not illegal or immoral to enrich at home; by that logic, parents should be called to task for mentioning or practicing multiplication before 3rd grade. Puh-lease.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But can everyone agree that the test is designed to be taken by kids who have never seen those types of questions?

No. By this logic, any kid who took an entry test to private school should be disqualified. No.

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Be careful. Teachers do ask kids if they've seen questions or prepared at home. Kids at this age don't or can't lie no matter what. A couple of kids in our class responded positively to those questions and the teacher made a note of that. I don't know if that'll be in their record but you don't want the score to be invalid because teacher thinks he/she prepared at home.

My 2nd grader took the WISC before the CogAT (for reasons unrelated to AAP). Of course he has "seen questions" similar to the CogAT from taking the WISC. It would be ridiculous for his teacher to penalize him for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I was the original poster - When everyone is prepping their kids, not prepping would be disadvantageous for my kid. I do not see anything wrong with prep, but yes, it might be more of a cultural thing

Are you banned from Google? Amazon.com? Seek and you will find!

I know more about Google and Amazon and other Internet companies/technologies that you can possibly only dream of...try this somewhere else...I am only asking to know what other parents are doing

What grade is your child? You could email the teacher and ask what other parents are doing.

3rd grade, but I got it figured out! Thanks all

Great! Hasn't your child already taken the CogAT? In any event, it's always good to talk to your child's teacher.

[Anonymous]

I used Mercer publishing for the nnat and cogat and all of my kids are in aap. Good luck! It’s worth it! aap is really great!

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And don’t talk to your kids teacher!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Prepping as in sending your already above average kid to Kumon is nuts. But I assume that is not what you intend to do, right?

Buying a CoGat workbook so that your child can go over a few pages with you and become familiar with test format and analogies and logic puzzles is not crazy. That is not gaming the system. It is being a conscientious parent who wants their child to not be stunned and paralyzed when they sit down to a new test.

The test was designed to take into account children who are stunned and paralyzed. That is gaming the test, as we all know. It is not illegal or invalidating, since the Cogat is not a true IQ test. For a true IQ test, that sort of prepping is invalidating.

I am the PP of the post you quoted - yes and no.

Teachers are supposed to go over proper test taking technique. Kids should have been exposed to the conventions of following test directions and reading comprehension technique and analogies and puzzle books by now. But not everyone has had this exposure. Not all teachers are good. Not all teachers speak loudly enough in a large room like this. Not all testing coordinators are thorough.

So if you think taking 15 minutes to show my child what an analogy is is screwing up your or another child's chances, then I think that's straight up silly and I'd be happy to show your kid what these things are too so that they are legitimately and smartly in the know about how to read and respond to a question. It's not illegal or immoral to enrich at home; by that logic, parents should be called to task for mentioning or practicing multiplication before 3rd grade. Puh-lease.

It's prepping. No bones about it. Justify it as you wish.

[Anonymous]

And I will also prep my kids for the ACT and SAT. No bones about it. It’s prepping, and that’s what educated parents do to help their kids get the best.

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If you're prepping your child for the gifted test, then are they really gifted?

Discuss.

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According to the WISC that I had done after in aap - yes they are extremely gifted. AAP is an excellent program funded by FCPS taxpayers. Most educated parents prepare/prep their children to get the most out of life. Education is part of life. A very big part of life, in fact, in my opinion. I’m not suggesting that all mustvprepare, but it’s freedom of choice to parent as one wants-as long as within the law.

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Ask Santa. Maybe he will bring a kumon membership instead of that new bike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to your kids teacher!

Why in the the world would you avoid talking to your child's teacher?

If you care about education, the teacher is your partner in helping your child to learn. The teacher is the first person I would work with if I think my child might be eligible for AAP, not some strangers on the internet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And don’t talk to your kids teacher!

Lol

This poster is honest that She's prepping

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I can't believe people compare COGAT vs SAT. For SAT you're expected to prepare because it's a knowledge base test. COGAT is an intelligence/IQ test that measures if a child is gifted.

[Anonymous]

Being prepared is a core life skill. Preparing for a test, whether it’s for school or sports is a good thing.

OP, Barnes and Nobles has a large selection of prep materials. Just get 2 or 3 different books and use them. They are all pretty similar.