How many more tragedies before fraternities and sororities are finally history

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fraternity men make up 85 percent of U.S. Supreme Court justices since 1910, 63 percent of all U.S. presidential cabinet members since 1900, and, historically, 76 percent of U.S. Senators, 85 percent of Fortune 500 executives,and 71 percent of the men in “Who’s Who in America.” And that’s not counting the 18 ex-frat U.S. presidents since 1877 (that’s 69 percent) and the 120 Forbes 500 CEOs (24 percent) from the 2003 list, including 10—or one-third—of the top 30. In the 113th Congress alone, 38 of the hundred Senate members come from fraternity (and, now, sorority) backgrounds, as does a full quarter of the House. Is there something inherent in the fraternity culture that sends its members to the country’s top echelons?

degenerate meathead frat boy at a state U that lets in anyone with a pulse != nerd frat at an Ivy

[Anonymous]

They moved beyond being a service institution and into partying and hazing. They shouldn't have a place on any college campus for parties. Any organization that wants to be greek should not have housing and should only be allowed to do charitable work during daylight hours. Alcohol free.

[Anonymous]

Greeks are here to stay. Many parents and kids place the importance of a top house bid over grades.

[Anonymous]

They should serve only cake, ice cream and Capri Sun at college parties....

Tell you what. You go right ahead and throw that cake and ice cream party. See how many students come to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Greeks are here to stay. Many parents and kids place the importance of a top house bid over grades.

Many of the Greek houses require minimum GPAs to stay in the fraternity. If you don't keep your grades up, you get kicked out. They support each other through school, tutor each other and make friendships that last a lifetime.

They are not all involved in crazy hazing rituals. They do have parties but that does not mean that they aren't serious students, too.

Not all frats are Animal House.

[Anonymous]

All the bogus service work is just to deflect from the hazing, binge drinking, narcotics, and preying on underage co-eds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should serve only cake, ice cream and Capri Sun at college parties....

Tell you what. You go right ahead and throw that cake and ice cream party. See how many students come to it.

Herein lies the problem in American culture. A few weeks ago around homecoming time, My 17 year old was recently explaining that kids only want to go to parties at the houses of kids with parents who allow drinking because without alcohol...they're bored. Has the Information Age screwed our youth so badly that nothing other than substance abuse is considered fun?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the non fraternity parties are much, much worse. They just aren't associated with a big name that the college can blame.

Actually, binge drinking is far more common among Greeks then among people who are not affiliated. There are data on this point.

https://www.addictioncenter.com/college/drinking-drug-abuse-greek-life/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The news out of Penn State today is so disturbing. There is zero positive benefit to having fraternities and sororities. Everyone who went to college and reads the news knows this. It has got to end. Obama should have had his department of education do something because surely Trump and Betsey DeVos will not touch it because they pretty much epitomize a frat bro and a sorority sister.

Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should serve only cake, ice cream and Capri Sun at college parties....

Tell you what. You go right ahead and throw that cake and ice cream party. See how many students come to it.

Herein lies the problem in American culture. A few weeks ago around homecoming time, My 17 year old was recently explaining that kids only want to go to parties at the houses of kids with parents who allow drinking because without alcohol...they're bored. Has the Information Age screwed our youth so badly that nothing other than substance abuse is considered fun?

This was true 30 years ago too...and 100 years ago...and 500 years ago...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fraternity men make up 85 percent of U.S. Supreme Court justices since 1910, 63 percent of all U.S. presidential cabinet members since 1900, and, historically, 76 percent of U.S. Senators, 85 percent of Fortune 500 executives,and 71 percent of the men in “Who’s Who in America.” And that’s not counting the 18 ex-frat U.S. presidents since 1877 (that’s 69 percent) and the 120 Forbes 500 CEOs (24 percent) from the 2003 list, including 10—or one-third—of the top 30. In the 113th Congress alone, 38 of the hundred Senate members come from fraternity (and, now, sorority) backgrounds, as does a full quarter of the House. Is there something inherent in the fraternity culture that sends its members to the country’s top echelons?

degenerate meathead frat boy at a state U that lets in anyone with a pulse != nerd frat at an Ivy

Exactly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fraternity men make up 85 percent of U.S. Supreme Court justices since 1910, 63 percent of all U.S. presidential cabinet members since 1900, and, historically, 76 percent of U.S. Senators, 85 percent of Fortune 500 executives,and 71 percent of the men in “Who’s Who in America.” And that’s not counting the 18 ex-frat U.S. presidents since 1877 (that’s 69 percent) and the 120 Forbes 500 CEOs (24 percent) from the 2003 list, including 10—or one-third—of the top 30. In the 113th Congress alone, 38 of the hundred Senate members come from fraternity (and, now, sorority) backgrounds, as does a full quarter of the House. Is there something inherent in the fraternity culture that sends its members to the country’s top echelons?

That would be The Good Ol' Boy Network, of which fraternities are but one particularly gross manifestation.

Yup. I think fraternities definitely attract that type. The "popular" guys that come from well-off families that plan to major in some combination of economics/business/political science and have some high profile job, often achieved through connections. You're find plenty of this type at any university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They should serve only cake, ice cream and Capri Sun at college parties....

Tell you what. You go right ahead and throw that cake and ice cream party. See how many students come to it.

I am hoping the increased use of ever more legal pot will make your cake party sound like a good idea before my DC gets to college. It’s rare that a rapist is high, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should serve only cake, ice cream and Capri Sun at college parties....

Tell you what. You go right ahead and throw that cake and ice cream party. See how many students come to it.

Herein lies the problem in American culture. A few weeks ago around homecoming time, My 17 year old was recently explaining that kids only want to go to parties at the houses of kids with parents who allow drinking because without alcohol...they're bored. Has the Information Age screwed our youth so badly that nothing other than substance abuse is considered fun?

Yeah, HS kids are kids. They have no business going to or hosting drinking parties. And actually there are plenty of HS parties that are not drinking parties. Most are parent supervised, too. And most of the people that I know would not allow their HS student to attend a drinking party.

In this thread we are talking about young adults who have graduated from HS and are no longer under direct adult supervision. Specifically we are talking about young adults who are in college and belong to or attend parties thrown by a fraternity. Most of these parties do, in fact, involve alcohol.

High Schools do not have fraternities that I'm aware of.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should serve only cake, ice cream and Capri Sun at college parties....

Tell you what. You go right ahead and throw that cake and ice cream party. See how many students come to it.

I am hoping the increased use of ever more legal pot will make your cake party sound like a good idea before my DC gets to college. It’s rare that a rapist is high, too.

eh, pot stinks and it makes people paranoid. I hope my kids don't go near the stuff even if it is legal in some areas.