So, Republicans, fix immigration!

[Anonymous]

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Hmm. Why is it the liberals are apologists for illegal immigrants and anchor babies? We see this all the time here on DCUM alone. Liberals *encourage* illegal immigrants to come here and stay here. They lobby hard for amnesty and citizenship for illegals. They call anyone who wants illegal immigration to stop, "RACISTS." What about this don't you understand? Liberal leaders and the people who vote for them are illegal immigrants biggest champions. Don't try passing this one off on the Republicans. You liberals fight at every turn to let these people stay in the country - ILLEGALLY. Hypocrites of the highest order.

This is exactly correct! It is part of the identity politics that has become an integral part of the Democratic party. It is nothing more than pandering for votes. They get 70% of the Hispanic vote and it is all a calculated move to maintain this group's support. The irony is that in the process they end up alienating the white vote in middle-America where the Hispanic population is not as significant and the net effect is that they lose many of those states. So they lose the electoral college and wonder why that has happened.

What is more is that legal immigrants who become citizens are less than kindly disposed to illegals who try and jump the line to attain status. We have quite a few immigrants who came here legally express their outrage on DCUM at the Democratic party's espousal of illegals.

The one thing that has changed is that blacks who were at one time vigorously opposed to illegals because they competed for jobs have become less of a factor for Democrats on this issue since they will vote Democratic in any event and can be taken for granted.

Except that it's the R business owners who benefit the most financially from illegal immigrant labor.

And it's the D party that benefits the most politically from the Hispanic vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. Why is it the liberals are apologists for illegal immigrants and anchor babies? We see this all the time here on DCUM alone. Liberals *encourage* illegal immigrants to come here and stay here. They lobby hard for amnesty and citizenship for illegals. They call anyone who wants illegal immigration to stop, "RACISTS." What about this don't you understand? Liberal leaders and the people who vote for them are illegal immigrants biggest champions. Don't try passing this one off on the Republicans. You liberals fight at every turn to let these people stay in the country - ILLEGALLY. Hypocrites of the highest order.

This is exactly correct! It is part of the identity politics that has become an integral part of the Democratic party. It is nothing more than pandering for votes. They get 70% of the Hispanic vote and it is all a calculated move to maintain this group's support. The irony is that in the process they end up alienating the white vote in middle-America where the Hispanic population is not as significant and the net effect is that they lose many of those states. So they lose the electoral college and wonder why that has happened.

What is more is that legal immigrants who become citizens are less than kindly disposed to illegals who try and jump the line to attain status. We have quite a few immigrants who came here legally express their outrage on DCUM at the Democratic party's espousal of illegals.

The one thing that has changed is that blacks who were at one time vigorously opposed to illegals because they competed for jobs have become less of a factor for Democrats on this issue since they will vote Democratic in any event and can be taken for granted.

Well you guys are in charge now, so quit bitching and fix it. That is, if you can convince the R leadership to actually do it. Their pockets are still wide open to big business.

And it's still in the best interests of the Democratic party to pander to illegal immigrants and Hispanics because they want their vote. Pretty obvious. But sure, blame it on "big business."

So if the Rs are OK with status quo and the Ds are OK with status quo then why is this such a "hot topic"? Oh wait, we hate brown people, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. Why is it the liberals are apologists for illegal immigrants and anchor babies? We see this all the time here on DCUM alone. Liberals *encourage* illegal immigrants to come here and stay here. They lobby hard for amnesty and citizenship for illegals. They call anyone who wants illegal immigration to stop, "RACISTS." What about this don't you understand? Liberal leaders and the people who vote for them are illegal immigrants biggest champions. Don't try passing this one off on the Republicans. You liberals fight at every turn to let these people stay in the country - ILLEGALLY. Hypocrites of the highest order.

This is exactly correct! It is part of the identity politics that has become an integral part of the Democratic party. It is nothing more than pandering for votes. They get 70% of the Hispanic vote and it is all a calculated move to maintain this group's support. The irony is that in the process they end up alienating the white vote in middle-America where the Hispanic population is not as significant and the net effect is that they lose many of those states. So they lose the electoral college and wonder why that has happened.

What is more is that legal immigrants who become citizens are less than kindly disposed to illegals who try and jump the line to attain status. We have quite a few immigrants who came here legally express their outrage on DCUM at the Democratic party's espousal of illegals.

The one thing that has changed is that blacks who were at one time vigorously opposed to illegals because they competed for jobs have become less of a factor for Democrats on this issue since they will vote Democratic in any event and can be taken for granted.

Well you guys are in charge now, so quit bitching and fix it. That is, if you can convince the R leadership to actually do it. Their pockets are still wide open to big business.

There is nothing to fix!

The existing laws make it clear that someone who is here illegally has no right to be in the country. The one thing that Roy Moore's victory should have made clear to Republican leadership is that amnesty is not on the cards while Trump is in office.

Great. So we can skip the wall and any changes to H1B.

DP. That would be fine with me. Just stop illegal immigration. And stop sanctuary cities from sheltering illegal immigrants. Follow the LAW.

Oh wait - I thought there was nothing to fix?! Make up your minds!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING to fix.

If someone is here illegally, they are subject to deportation and they have no right to amnesty.

End of story!

If there's nothing to fix, why do people keep complaining about it?

Who are the people that keep complaining about it? It is the Hispanic lobby and Democrats who want to pander to them that keep the issue on the front burner. It works well for the Democrats with Hispanics which is why they have voted 70% in favor of Democrats in the last two presidential elections but what does not seem to register with Democrats is that in much of middle America people feel that those illegally in the country have no right to be here. Yes, in California and NY and some of the states with large Hispanic populations, it is an issue that plays well.

Personally, the only group I have some measure of sympathy for are the DACA kids because they did not come here of their own volition but there is little doubt that if something is done for them, the next demand will be for their parents to be granted amnesty and thereafter others will demand the same.

[Anonymous]

No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is NOTHING to fix.

If someone is here illegally, they are subject to deportation and they have no right to amnesty.

End of story!

If there's nothing to fix, why do people keep complaining about it?

Who are the people that keep complaining about it? It is the Hispanic lobby and Democrats who want to pander to them that keep the issue on the front burner. It works well for the Democrats with Hispanics which is why they have voted 70% in favor of Democrats in the last two presidential elections but what does not seem to register with Democrats is that in much of middle America people feel that those illegally in the country have no right to be here. Yes, in California and NY and some of the states with large Hispanic populations, it is an issue that plays well.

Personally, the only group I have some measure of sympathy for are the DACA kids because they did not come here of their own volition but there is little doubt that if something is done for them, the next demand will be for their parents to be granted amnesty and thereafter others will demand the same.

The people who complain about "the illegals!!!!" and "anchor babies!!!!" on every electronic opportunity for comment, whether or not it has anything to do with immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

Deportations are way down under Trump. There were more deportations under Obama. Does that make you cheer for Obama?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

Deportations are way down under Trump. There were more deportations under Obama. Does that make you cheer for Obama?

Well, if you believe this then Hispanics and Democrats must just love Trump!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

Deportations are way down under Trump. There were more deportations under Obama. Does that make you cheer for Obama?

Well, if you believe this then Hispanics and Democrats must just love Trump!

"If you believe this"...? You can look at the numbers yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

Count the number on threads whining about undocumented immigrants on this forum. None are written by Democrats or Liberals.

And who cares what Democrats whine about? You don't need them. Do something!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

Count the number on threads whining about undocumented immigrants on this forum. None are written by Democrats or Liberals.

And who cares what Democrats whine about? You don't need them. Do something!!!

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

Count the number on threads whining about undocumented immigrants on this forum. None are written by Democrats or Liberals.

And who cares what Democrats whine about? You don't need them. Do something!!!

I would think the OP on this topic was started by a Democrat - certainly unlikely to be a Republican.

When Trump reversed Obama's DACA EO, the outcry was by liberals and Hispanic groups as were the demonstrations.

I think ICE and Trump would be perfectly good with just deporting illegals and holding back funds to sanctuary cities. The litigation against this is invariably by liberal and Hispanic groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is standing in the Republicans way. What ever the Conservative Republicans on this forum want - their own party can give them. New laws, enforcement of existing laws, outlawing sanctuary cities, etc.

So stop the constant whiny.

Hmm! Republicans are not whining about this - they are deporting people who are here illegally and further restricting immigration.

It is the Democrats and the Hispanic lobby who are forever whining about something needing to be done.

Deportations are way down under Trump. There were more deportations under Obama. Does that make you cheer for Obama?

Well, if you believe this then Hispanics and Democrats must just love Trump!

"If you believe this"...? You can look at the numbers yourself.

As Disraeli reportedly said: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hmm. Why is it the liberals are apologists for illegal immigrants and anchor babies? We see this all the time here on DCUM alone. Liberals *encourage* illegal immigrants to come here and stay here. They lobby hard for amnesty and citizenship for illegals. They call anyone who wants illegal immigration to stop, "RACISTS." What about this don't you understand? Liberal leaders and the people who vote for them are illegal immigrants biggest champions. Don't try passing this one off on the Republicans. You liberals fight at every turn to let these people stay in the country - ILLEGALLY. Hypocrites of the highest order.

This is exactly correct! It is part of the identity politics that has become an integral part of the Democratic party. It is nothing more than pandering for votes. They get 70% of the Hispanic vote and it is all a calculated move to maintain this group's support. The irony is that in the process they end up alienating the white vote in middle-America where the Hispanic population is not as significant and the net effect is that they lose many of those states. So they lose the electoral college and wonder why that has happened.

What is more is that legal immigrants who become citizens are less than kindly disposed to illegals who try and jump the line to attain status. We have quite a few immigrants who came here legally express their outrage on DCUM at the Democratic party's espousal of illegals.

The one thing that has changed is that blacks who were at one time vigorously opposed to illegals because they competed for jobs have become less of a factor for Democrats on this issue since they will vote Democratic in any event and can be taken for granted.

Except that it's the R business owners who benefit the most financially from illegal immigrant labor.

And it's the D party that benefits the most politically from the Hispanic vote.

So greedy R business owners and Dems both benefit, but one is about money and the other is about political power. And let's not forget that R congress usually bow to pressure from R business owners.