Thirteen Reasons Why on Netflix

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Finally finished it last night and MAN! They went pretty brutal on some of those scenes in the later episodes. Much more so than on network TV.

I hope they continue it because I have so many questions I need answered.

I was hesitant to start it after reading this review in the WaPost: http://preview.tinyurl.com/m4korc2.

There are 13 episodes lasting 13 super-sullen hours — a passive-aggressive, implausibly meandering, poorly written and awkwardly acted effort that is mainly about miscommunication, delivering no more wisdom or insight about depression, bullying and suicide than one of those old “ABC Afterschool Specials” people now mock for being so corny.

I don't find that true at all. I can see why this book has popped up on so many teacher's reading lists. It's a good look at how our actions, as small or innocent as they may seem, cause a ripple effect and can really hurt others.

And I'm just going to echo the PP about Kate Walsh. Wow! She acted the part so well that I felt like she'd really lost a child. I've never been a huge fan of hers, as in must watch everything she's in, but she definitely didn't strike me as someone who could pull off that kind of performance.


I've just watching it and I completely agree with the WaPost review except that ABC After school Specials were much better.

Agree about Kate Walsh though.
Anonymous
This show is so awful that after getting halfway through I'm not even sure I can hate-watch it to the end. And not just because of the incredibly irresponsible way they depict suicide as the ultimate revenge fantasy. It's just terrible - badly acted, badly written, badly cast. I usually love Netflix series - not this time!
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Anonymous wrote:Watching it now. On episode 10. It's really difficult to watch. Super triggering


So freaking tired of this word. 'Triggering' of what exactly?


Not PP and pretty bleeding heart, but I also don't understand the idea of being triggered, safe spaces, etc. Facing difficult things from your past is how you work through them, not something to avoid at all costs. Same goes for people whose opinions differ from your own.


Do you not understand why some war veterans have panic attacks when they hear fireworks? Why some abuse victims are haunted by words, sounds or smells? Working through something in therapy and reliving your trauma for entertainment are not the same thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just finished watching it last night. The last episode broke my heart, I cried. I loved the extra interviews afterwards.


I was kind of hate watching it after being bored through the first few episodes. And I hate the term "triggering." But as a parent the big scene in 13 really, really got to me. I was surprised.
Anonymous
I have serious problems depicting suicide as a revenge fantasy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For those who ha e dealt with bullying, rape, self harm and have been steps from taking their own life...Yeah it's fucking triggering.


Like a PP I don't get this "triggering" thing either. I've dealt with depression and actually attempted suicide over a decade ago. I'm finished this entire show and while some was uncomfortable to watch, nothing about a TV made any self harm thoughts return.
Anonymous
My fourteen year old DD has watched it months ago and we talked about it at length after the panic I saw in this thread. In her words, "it's not for kids who are emotional or weak, and there are lots of them at my school, but a lot of my friends have watched it and got a lot out of it." She said it opened an entire conversation about how now to commit suicide amount the kids. The fact that it was produced or co produced by Selena Gomez was a draw for these kids. She also said, "you know what, the stuff that went on in that, that is what school is like today, private or not, parents just don't have a clue." We never do.
Anonymous
"not to commit suicide among"
Anonymous
Wowwww. I'm almost finished. It's awful. She's clearly mentally ill but they make it look like oh just be nice to people then they won't kill themselves. Um no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have serious problems depicting suicide as a revenge fantasy.


Loudoun County Public schools sent parents an email about this series saying it's hugely problematic and giving mental health reaeourcwa for parents to access if they think their child needs it. There's actually a fairly significant suicide rate among loudoun county high schoolers so this series is not helping anything.
Anonymous
This series is going to get blamed if ANY kid who has watched it attempts or completes suicide in the next year or two.

Anonymous
I really think this show glamorizes suicide and, like others had pointed out, depicts it as a revenge fantasy. I went to a very small private school with lots of 'drama' and also suffered from pretty severe depression and anxiety. I often did fantasize about people who had hurt my feelings 'missing me when I was gone' or that my ex boyfriend would regret it if I did something to myself.

Obviously as an adult it is easier to put these things in perspective but as a young teen I can see it being damaging.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My fourteen year old DD has watched it months ago and we talked about it at length after the panic I saw in this thread. In her words, "it's not for kids who are emotional or weak, and there are lots of them at my school, but a lot of my friends have watched it and got a lot out of it." She said it opened an entire conversation about how now to commit suicide amount the kids. The fact that it was produced or co produced by Selena Gomez was a draw for these kids. She also said, "you know what, the stuff that went on in that, that is what school is like today, private or not, parents just don't have a clue." We never do.


It came out on Netflix less than a month ago, did she have an advance copy
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I really think this show glamorizes suicide and, like others had pointed out, depicts it as a revenge fantasy. I went to a very small private school with lots of 'drama' and also suffered from pretty severe depression and anxiety. I often did fantasize about people who had hurt my feelings 'missing me when I was gone' or that my ex boyfriend would regret it if I did something to myself.

Obviously as an adult it is easier to put these things in perspective but as a young teen I can see it being damaging.


I know i'm late - but just getting through it now. It's horribly histrionic- but I guess a lot of teens are. I went through a very short episode myself- but verrrry short (like, a few days? after a break up?) I wonder if some teens consider suicide as a revenge fantasy and don't really get beyond that - they don't think it through completely and end up dead in spite of themselves. Many teens are notoriously short-sighted and self-centered.

I tried to get my eldest (12) to watch but he said "too boring" and either the subtleties are lost on him or it's too embarrassing to watch with Mom.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Watching it now. On episode 10. It's really difficult to watch. Super triggering


So freaking tired of this word. 'Triggering' of what exactly?


Not PP and pretty bleeding heart, but I also don't understand the idea of being triggered, safe spaces, etc. Facing difficult things from your past is how you work through them, not something to avoid at all costs. Same goes for people whose opinions differ from your own.


Do you not understand why some war veterans have panic attacks when they hear fireworks? Why some abuse victims are haunted by words, sounds or smells? Working through something in therapy and reliving your trauma for entertainment are not the same thing.


I don't think quote poster can call him/her self a bleeding heart of they don't understand why some people who have encountered trauma might want places to be safe from said trauma, and might want trigger warnings to ID when content might be upsetting.

That being said... it's no secret that this show is about suicide. So, it shouldn't be surprising that it would be triggering to people who have past experiences with suicide or suicidal thoughts.
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