Why is there censorship about schools for Ivanka Trump's kids?

[Anonymous]

Yes, 8:19, I agree! Some people need to look in the mirror and recognize their own disgusting behaviors and the vile hatred that comes out of their mouths.

These are children! They should attend whatever school is appropriate for them and the community should treat them just like any other accepted family. News flash, not everyone at your child's school has the same viewpoint (whether liberal or conservative) as you. The Big 3s are not full of left wing liberals, there are plenty of conservative republicans there as well. And Catholic schools are not full of conservatives, there are plenty of liberals there as well. This goes for all mainstream schools. They do not ask on the applications if you are a democrat or republican or independent. This is not a country club admittance process where they require letters of recommendation from friends who know you personally, have been to your home, and can attest to your good values and behaviors. These are educational institutions who are teaching children. These are inclusive communities and you don't have to love or be best friends with everyone, but you do need to be kind and respectful. Something the pp seems unable to do.

The hate filled pp should consider the positive influence kindness and respect would have on someone vs. the negative influence her hate has on people. So, you want to segregate republicans from your school and probably everything else in your life? Sounds like a civil rights issue from generations ago!! What you should be most afraid of is your own gross generalizations and the hate you have in your heart for people you don't really know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Personally, I don't care about the kids. In fact, I suspect the kids are probably about as pleasant as most other young children are. I will say though that I don't want the Trump, Kushner, or Conway parents anywhere near the parent communities at my children's schools. Their values disgust me. I hope they homeschool, or stay in NY/NJ, or at least go somewhere else.

Wow. A fascinating window into how some people think.

Yes, it is wonderful how open minded to differing view points some supposedly liberal people are.

PP was talking about different values, not different viewpoints. Do you hang out with bullies, liars, and cheats? It's getting really tiresome, this thing about "oh look how close-minded those liberals are!" You know very well it's not conservative policies but this particular set of greedy, mean characters that people find abhorrent.

No I don't know that. It plenty of circles having even main stream conservative views (e.g., opposing affirmative action) makes you abhorrent and for that issue racist. Heaven forbid you are pro-life, then you a really beyond the pale. And in terms of being cheats, bullies, liars etc - Trump supporters (and some other Republicans) would say the same about Hillary. And then where are we? No one is interacting with anyone and we are all in our own echo chamber convincing ourselves we are right and everyone else is a moron. As a centrist, I am sick of the extreme partisanship coming from both sides.

I'm the OP from this string (15:28 from page 1). I am not some partisan liberal. I am a moderate who supports a robust military limited by reasonable cost controls, doesn't really mind drones or government surveillance or GMOs, doesn't oppose the death penalty so long as it's carefully and fairly implemented, thinks abortion is something to be avoided at all costs but also should not face undue restrictions, thinks gun ownership should be cherished as a civil right but also strictly controlled as a public safety measure, etc. In the last 8 presidential elections, I voted R three times, and D five times. My choice for president this cycle likely would fall in this order: Bush, Clinton, ... Kasich, O'Malley, Rubio, ... Sanders, Cruz, Trump, Carson. I am very good friends with many Republicans and Democrats. Most of my co-workers and our customers are Republicans, many former and current military, and I think very highly of them all. My own viewpoints sometimes line up with the left and sometimes with the right. I think hardly any of the policy differences our society faces are blank-and-white with a right side and a wrong side; almost all are just shades of gray where each side has legitimate considerations that need to be meshed in a balancing of interests.

Trump and his team are not just another political viewpoint. They are a marketing team masquerading as politicians. I strongly suspect they broke the law repeatedly to gain power, and I am confident they will break the law many times to hold and abuse that power. Their "policies" are not part of the balancing of interests our country is founded on, but are rather the ravings and whims of an megalomaniac dictator. I consider him and his team dangerous, not just in the larger sense for our country, but also in the more immediate sense that they will abuse their power to bully those around them.

At my children's schools, the various Democrats and Republicans and moderates and agnostics are generally respectful of differing viewpoints, and the schools themselves work hard to ensure that respect for all is maintained. If some parent expresses a viewpoint I strongly disagree with, we'll still be friends. But I don't see the Trump-Kushner-Conway parents showing that same respect for differing viewpoints. I have no confidence they will respect the viewpoints of others. I can only assume they would retaliate in private against people who disagree with them just as forcefully as they retaliate in public. I would not be surprised at all if they try to use the school itself, other parents' statements, or even individual students as pawns to push their messages. I do not want my family, my friends, or my children bullied, or used as marketing tools. My job is to protect them from dangerous users and bullies, not expose them in the name of viewpoint diversity.

So I stand by everything I wrote. It's not about their children, who are likely harmless. It's the adults I don't want anywhere near my children's school.

[Anonymous]

I would not want Trumps' grandkids in my school. The security implication and threats would be immense. I have watched terrorists bomb schools filled with kids of top military brass in Pakistan. I have no faith that terror is contained and cannot touch US soil. The politician kids should be home schooled for the safety of other children.

I am glad that Ivanka Trump and Barron have decided to stay in NY. I think this is the right thing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not want Trumps' grandkids in my school. The security implication and threats would be immense. I have watched terrorists bomb schools filled with kids of top military brass in Pakistan. I have no faith that terror is contained and cannot touch US soil. The politician kids should be home schooled for the safety of other children.

I am glad that Ivanka Trump and Barron have decided to stay in NY. I think this is the right thing to do.

I meant Melania Trump. She is the wife of Donald and Barren's mom. Ivanka is Donald's adult daughter from a previous marriage.

[Anonymous]

I don't think there is anything wrong with being curious about where the children/grandchildren are going to school. This fact was given when Malia and Sasha went to Sidwell. As long as people don't say anything mean or political about the kids what is wrong with saying something that is fact....ie Chelsea Clinton, Malia and Sasha Obama go to Sidwell.

What is wrong with that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think there is anything wrong with being curious about where the children/grandchildren are going to school. This fact was given when Malia and Sasha went to Sidwell. As long as people don't say anything mean or political about the kids what is wrong with saying something that is fact....ie Chelsea Clinton, Malia and Sasha Obama go to Sidwell.

What is wrong with that?

Since 9/11 the world has changed. I was not happy with Malia and Sasha going to Sidwell. They should have been homeschooled as well. But, now since we have the Russians basically running this country...the high target kids should be homeschooled. There is no reason for others to be become collateral damage and the taxpayers to pay for the additional security. We have already paid millions for bullet proof windows for Trump's place in New York.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Personally, I don't care about the kids. In fact, I suspect the kids are probably about as pleasant as most other young children are. I will say though that I don't want the Trump, Kushner, or Conway parents anywhere near the parent communities at my children's schools. Their values disgust me. I hope they homeschool, or stay in NY/NJ, or at least go somewhere else.

Wow. A fascinating window into how some people think.

Yes, it is wonderful how open minded to differing view points some supposedly liberal people are.

PP was talking about different values, not different viewpoints. Do you hang out with bullies, liars, and cheats?

It's getting really tiresome, this thing about "oh look how close-minded those liberals are!" You know very well it's not conservative policies but this particular set of greedy, mean characters that people find abhorrent.

No I don't know that. It plenty of circles having even main stream conservative views (e.g., opposing affirmative action) makes you abhorrent and for that issue racist. Heaven forbid you are pro-life, then you a really beyond the pale.

And in terms of being cheats, bullies, liars etc - Trump supporters (and some other Republicans) would say the same about Hillary. And then where are we? No one is interacting with anyone and we are all in our own echo chamber convincing ourselves we are right and everyone else is a moron.

As a centrist, I am sick of the extreme partisanship coming from both sides.

I agree. There are parents of extreme political views on both sides at my kids' school, I have no doubt. I am sure I would disagree vehemently with them on various political and moral points. This does not keep me from being polite - to anyone - when I see them in school situations. It does not prohibit me from working with them on a school committee or sharing a bench near them at a sports game. Most adults can manage to be respectful to each other in public despite having differing views.

I can't imagine saying that I would not want a particular parent at my child's school. The world is big and diverse. We need to model for our kids how to work with everyone, even people whose views we may not agree with or respect. That is how change occurs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think there is anything wrong with being curious about where the children/grandchildren are going to school. This fact was given when Malia and Sasha went to Sidwell. As long as people don't say anything mean or political about the kids what is wrong with saying something that is fact....ie Chelsea Clinton, Malia and Sasha Obama go to Sidwell.

What is wrong with that?

Since 9/11 the world has changed. I was not happy with Malia and Sasha going to Sidwell. They should have been homeschooled as well. But, now since we have the Russians basically running this country...the high target kids should be homeschooled. There is no reason for others to be become collateral damage and the taxpayers to pay for the additional security. We have already paid millions for bullet proof windows for Trump's place in New York.

Yes, but dangerous things happen to kids at school even when there are no famous people/kids. Look at Newtown CT, or Columbine, CO to know terrible things happen. Why should the children of famous people ( Obama and Trump) not get the same opportunity as your kids? Isn't that discrimination?

In short, I disagree with you. Maybe you should homeschool your kids if you feel this strongly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think there is anything wrong with being curious about where the children/grandchildren are going to school. This fact was given when Malia and Sasha went to Sidwell. As long as people don't say anything mean or political about the kids what is wrong with saying something that is fact....ie Chelsea Clinton, Malia and Sasha Obama go to Sidwell.

What is wrong with that?

Since 9/11 the world has changed. I was not happy with Malia and Sasha going to Sidwell. They should have been homeschooled as well. But, now since we have the Russians basically running this country...the high target kids should be homeschooled. There is no reason for others to be become collateral damage and the taxpayers to pay for the additional security. We have already paid millions for bullet proof windows for Trump's place in New York.

Yes, but dangerous things happen to kids at school even when there are no famous people/kids. Look at Newtown CT, or Columbine, CO to know terrible things happen. Why should the children of famous people ( Obama and Trump) not get the same opportunity as your kids? Isn't that discrimination?

In short, I disagree with you. Maybe you should homeschool your kids if you feel this strongly.

If you collude with Putin and make this country unsafe and if you do not want strict gun controls then the least you can do is homeschool your brood.

[Anonymous]

You sound crazy!! Russia is running our country?? Get a grip people. There is this thing called civil rights, have you not heard of it? It does not apply to only the people who share your beliefs, it applies to everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound crazy!! Russia is running our country?? Get a grip people. There is this thing called civil rights, have you not heard of it? It does not apply to only the people who share your beliefs, it applies to everyone.

No question Russia has something damning on Trump, whether the videos or loan holdings.

Defending Russia the way he did in the face of all evidence to the contrary -- now that makes a person sound crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not want Trumps' grandkids in my school. The security implication and threats would be immense. I have watched terrorists bomb schools filled with kids of top military brass in Pakistan. I have no faith that terror is contained and cannot touch US soil. The politician kids should be home schooled for the safety of other children.

I am glad that Ivanka Trump and Barron have decided to stay in NY. I think this is the right thing to do.

I can't fault you for the security concerns, but did you/would you have felt the same way about the Obama girls or Clinton's grandkids. The security concerns would be the same for any of them.

But it was clear many PP would feel differently about Trump kids v any of the others.

[Anonymous]

Ivanka and Jared looked at GDS and were really impressed. But the Secret Service had some concerns about the Macarthur Blvd campus entrance and exit, so the family had to pass on GDS. This is quite similar to the situation with the Obamas, for whom GDS was their original first choice. Fortunately, the consolidated campus on Wisconsin is being planned to accommodate VIP protectee needs.

[Anonymous]

Haha! They didn't choose gds because it isn't in the same league as sidwell.

[jsteele]

I think this thread has gone on long enough and is getting ridiculous.