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I'm a Latina woman and when I worked in an office I was not in the in-crowd but it was because I am introverted. I was very well liked, but was not friends with anyone. I know it was not b/c I was Latina. There was another latina woman and she was super outgoing, charismatic and an extrovert. She had lots of friends.
IME, African American women were consistently the friendliest, nicest women. |
Yup! One here : ) |
Another south Asian . Same experience. I am well read, can hold a good conversation, so not sure what the issue was. I put in effort to fit in, initiate conversation but ultimately gave up because it got tiring. Finally found a workgroup of my own kind and very happy |
| Extroverted south Asian female. I haven't experienced this in my particular work environments(government lawyer in multiple agencies). |
Lmfao |
This is a pertinent point |
I'm white and could have written this. What industry? |
And some nonwhites assume that all whites are racist and exclusionary. Maybe if we all stopped making assumptions about each other. |
It is a D.C. Thing. I'm a white women and I can't get along with D.C. white womenswear. |
^^^dumb autocorrect. D.C. white women. |
yep
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| OP, maybe they don't want to socialize with someone who assumes that they are racist because they are white. |
Not OP, but I'd like for you to consider the privilege you have in this decision. As a South Asian, people very often automatically think of me in stereotypes. I've dealt with this my entire life. I'm sure there are other ethnicities and POC that have dealt with this as well. If we always went around thinking "well I'm not going to socialize" with the majority of these people we would never be able to have normal social encounters. We also wouldn't be able to change the perception of these stereotypes. I've gone out of my way to be outgoing and make the other person comfortable so that they would get to know that ''no, not all (insert race) do/eat/wear/practice/whatever (insert stereotype)" And even if we do, hey guess what we're also human and we most likely share some common interests or thoughts or life experiences. While it's definitely NOT okay to think someone must be racist just because they're white, understand that racism has definitely hit pretty much every POC at some point in their lives. So if friendly encounters and interactions are consistently responded with cold responses or aggressive attitude then yes, we will suspect you COULD be racist. |
Asian American here. OP if you are an introvert and Asian it is harder. I am naturally an introvert but felt stereotyped by white people when I was younger. I rebelled and forced myself to be more outgoing in order to be noticed. I make friends pretty easily now. It sucks but whatever the stereotype of your background is, you have to try extra hard to push against it. The stereotypes against Asians is that they are nerdy, quiet, hang out only with other Asian people, repressed, Tiger parents, etc. |
| I'm middle eastern. I get along well with everyone in my office and go to happy hour, group dinners when we travel, etc but the top people are very white, and they bond over one thing that I have no interest in - baseball. They go to games together, talk about scores, players, etc. They also drink much more than I do so they assume that I don't always want to hang out with them, or as late as they do (which I don't, but sometimes do to be a team player). While I feel respected and liked, I'll never be "in" with them the same way as certain others. |