Immigration status

[Anonymous]

OK, i just realize that my conclusion was just different from my opening sentence (PP Here). Proof of the fact that I am conflicted . . .

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Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, than , bye-bye.

Allowing these kids to go to university and take out student loans isn't going to encourage more people to come here. Poor people come here because they can get jobs as laborers or working as nannies. When the economic outlook for that gets worse (as it has) they stop coming. They're not coming because their one year old child could one day go to the University of Virginia.

And those children who were brought here as babies and grew up here -- it's not like they're going to leave because they can't go to college or take out student loans. They're just going to work at black market jobs and most likely live in poverty. I'd rather they get the opportunities for education and training and become engineers, accountants, businesspeople, and nurses. Much better for us than leaving them in limbo.

Countries like Japan have an aging population and a low birth rate so there are few young people to support that population. The United States is doing much better at balancing our population with regard to age because immigration has brought so many young people to our shores. Yes, I want those young people to be well-educated and integrated into our society.

And I would like them to be from ALL over the world via a legal process; not by virtue of geographical proximity and illegal entry. And I think we should reform the anchor baby laws. What other countries endow citizenship by virtue of birth on the land--not parental citizenship? I am not being facetious--I am curious; what other countries?

You've been hanging out on Fox News haven't you? Glenn Beck much? According to this list there are 33 nations that offer automatic citizenship. I hope it satifies your curiosity.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/issues/birthright-citizenship/nations-observing-birthright-citizenship.html

I am SO SICK of the FOX News / Glenn Beck/ Limbaugh ad nauseum slingshots. Honestly. I asked for a bit of info, you obliged, I will read it. Why the constant need to hassle people who , actually, do watch Fox News with gotcha labels. Yes--I watch FOX. I also read EVERYthing from Hesse to the Qur'an to Doonesbury. You are your "Fox News much?" comment are already that many steps closer to 'close-minded' than me. Yuck.

You have a lot of misplaced anger. You seriously just went off over nothing. The only reason I said that was I'd never heard the term anchor baby. When I went to look up the info an article with that exact term came up by Glenn Beck so it made sense to me that maybe you had just read it or saw something by him. I'm not conservative by any means but I Tivo The O'Reilly Factor evry night cause I love the show. I don't really subscribe to the whole if you read certain papers or websites or watch certain shows than you must be blah, blah. Stop looking for insults that aren't there. Not everyone is out to get you because you like Fox.

I actually don't have a lot of misplaced anger. On this forum, there is constant reference to "You must watch O'Reilly a lot to have said that.". It gets annoying and old. I watch a lot of a lot of stuff, and would rather have my own opinions debated than where I might have mined them from. Again, not too much anger. Did yoga this morning with my mom in a beautiful (non-DC) state with blue skies and wildflowers while on holiday; what could be more blissful? Ommm

[Anonymous]

Immigration reform will be revisited this fall. I do not know what the answer will be - but the administration will do something before the end of the calendar year.

[Anonymous]

Yeah--I'm sure the administration will do the usual 800 page 13th hour end run that no one is able to read before they vote. The usual super "transparent" Friday night release. Wundebar.

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You really never heard the term anchor baby before? It is been used in main stream media for years - decades... Remember the lady who took sancuary in the Chicago church and so many people petitioned to allow her to stay because her anchor baby son was a US citizen?

I too think that if we stopped granting citizenship to every baby who happened to be born on US soil some of our immigration issues would abate. I have a co-worker of South American origin whose mother came from her home country to visit her sister in the US when she was 5 months pregnant and stayed until my co-worker was born. They eventually returned to her home country, and then when she was in her 20's she came back to the US as a citizen, sponsored her husband, enrolled in public health insurance for her children, got her daughter into head start, etc. Lovely woman, but if this is not planned accidental citizenship I don't know what it is.

[Anonymous]

22:52 - get your friend to apply for Medicaid and SCHIP. I'm in health care policy for low-income - there will be certainly a way to get the baby covered, maybe the parents as well. What state are they in?

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Anonymous wrote:You really never heard the term anchor baby before? It is been used in main stream media for years - decades... Remember the lady who took sancuary in the Chicago church and so many people petitioned to allow her to stay because her anchor baby son was a US citizen?

I too think that if we stopped granting citizenship to every baby who happened to be born on US soil some of our immigration issues would abate. I have a co-worker of South American origin whose mother came from her home country to visit her sister in the US when she was 5 months pregnant and stayed until my co-worker was born. They eventually returned to her home country, and then when she was in her 20's she came back to the US as a citizen, sponsored her husband, enrolled in public health insurance for her children, got her daughter into head start, etc. Lovely woman, but if this is not planned accidental citizenship I don't know what it is.

No actually I hadn't, which is why it stood out for me. But I haven't really looked too much into the issues of birthright or automatic citizenship. I didn't realize that Europe had nixed it a long time ago. I did know that people are always complaining about how strict the US is when almost all other countries are much more strict with their immigration laws. But we always seem to be the bad guys. It isn't a popular view but I believe that when you make the decision to enter the country illegally then you understand the risks associated with that decision. If that means you've raised a kid and are caught then yes you still must go home. People come knowing what could happen if they're caught, but they think it's worth it. Until they get caught.

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Anonymous wrote:You really never heard the term anchor baby before? It is been used in main stream media for years - decades... Remember the lady who took sancuary in the Chicago church and so many people petitioned to allow her to stay because her anchor baby son was a US citizen?

I too think that if we stopped granting citizenship to every baby who happened to be born on US soil some of our immigration issues would abate. I have a co-worker of South American origin whose mother came from her home country to visit her sister in the US when she was 5 months pregnant and stayed until my co-worker was born. They eventually returned to her home country, and then when she was in her 20's she came back to the US as a citizen, sponsored her husband, enrolled in public health insurance for her children, got her daughter into head start, etc. Lovely woman, but if this is not planned accidental citizenship I don't know what it is.

No actually I hadn't, which is why it stood out for me. But I haven't really looked too much into the issues of birthright or automatic citizenship. I didn't realize that Europe had nixed it a long time ago. I did know that people are always complaining about how strict the US is when almost all other countries are much more strict with their immigration laws. But we always seem to be the bad guys. It isn't a popular view but I believe that when you make the decision to enter the country illegally then you understand the risks associated with that decision. If that means you've raised a kid and are caught then yes you still must go home. People come knowing what could happen if they're caught, but they think it's worth it. Until they get caught.

I think people think they won't get caught, sort of like how people think something bad shouldn't happen to them and then question why it has.

I think the United States is seen as a country belonging to everyone, unlike other countries which are inhabited by native people from that country. This even though the US was originally inhabited by Native Americans but somehow I don't think people think of it as their country. So it should be open to everyone, you know? And the US is the bad guys when we deny entry.