Immigration status

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, then , bye-bye.

If we do that, don't we open ourselves up to a massive lawsuit for false advertising: "Give me your poor ..."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The problem is that if we have too many people from one country here, they could change our culture too much. Let's face it, these people are escaping economic problems that were usually brought on by screwed up political values. They might have little to do with their home country's political problems, but they often come with that culture. They often see nothing wrong with the thuggery, graft an bribery that is commonplace in some poor countries. When too many from one country come here, they might not melt in our pot, but rather chill our pot. I still think that the mafia problem in the early 1900's would have been less severe if fewer people from certain countries came here.
Realistically, we can't take in everyone who wants to come. We should be more choosy. Most of all, take many people from many different countries, and many different ethnic groups to avoid collusive behavior.


Hmmm...wonder if the American Indians felt the same way about your European ancestors when they first arrived from their home country/countries. Yes indeed, let's not dilute the melting pot of America that settlers worked so hard to establish by killing and sending away the only people who actually have prior claim to this country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem is that if we have too many people from one country here, they could change our culture too much. Let's face it, these people are escaping economic problems that were usually brought on by screwed up political values. They might have little to do with their home country's political problems, but they often come with that culture. They often see nothing wrong with the thuggery, graft an bribery that is commonplace in some poor countries. When too many from one country come here, they might not melt in our pot, but rather chill our pot. I still think that the mafia problem in the early 1900's would have been less severe if fewer people from certain countries came here.
Realistically, we can't take in everyone who wants to come. We should be more choosy. Most of all, take many people from many different countries, and many different ethnic groups to avoid collusive behavior.


Hmmm...wonder if the American Indians felt the same way about your European ancestors when they first arrived from their home country/countries. Yes indeed, let's not dilute the melting pot of America that settlers worked so hard to establish by killing and sending away the only people who actually have prior claim to this country.


Well of course the Native Americans didn't like. That's why there were wars. They lost them. Sad, but the way of the world back then.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, then , bye-bye.

If we do that, don't we open ourselves up to a massive lawsuit for false advertising: "Give me your poor ..."


We changed our mind.
Anonymous
Would agree to increasing quotas but can't abide that if you come here illegally you get a free pass - let those who are following teh right path get here first - wherever they are from originally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, then , bye-bye.

If we do that, don't we open ourselves up to a massive lawsuit for false advertising: "Give me your poor ..."


"Give me", so I can look them over, then pick, not sneak around me, and get in.
Anonymous
I say show up with your last 7 years of income tax returns and I will let you get in the back of the line. No tax returns, no visit to the line at all. If you are brought as a child, you have to have attended 7 years of school here AND graduated with a HS diploma to get in line.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, than , bye-bye.

Allowing these kids to go to university and take out student loans isn't going to encourage more people to come here. Poor people come here because they can get jobs as laborers or working as nannies. When the economic outlook for that gets worse (as it has) they stop coming. They're not coming because their one year old child could one day go to the University of Virginia.

And those children who were brought here as babies and grew up here -- it's not like they're going to leave because they can't go to college or take out student loans. They're just going to work at black market jobs and most likely live in poverty. I'd rather they get the opportunities for education and training and become engineers, accountants, businesspeople, and nurses. Much better for us than leaving them in limbo.

Countries like Japan have an aging population and a low birth rate so there are few young people to support that population. The United States is doing much better at balancing our population with regard to age because immigration has brought so many young people to our shores. Yes, I want those young people to be well-educated and integrated into our society.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, than , bye-bye.

Allowing these kids to go to university and take out student loans isn't going to encourage more people to come here. Poor people come here because they can get jobs as laborers or working as nannies. When the economic outlook for that gets worse (as it has) they stop coming. They're not coming because their one year old child could one day go to the University of Virginia.

And those children who were brought here as babies and grew up here -- it's not like they're going to leave because they can't go to college or take out student loans. They're just going to work at black market jobs and most likely live in poverty. I'd rather they get the opportunities for education and training and become engineers, accountants, businesspeople, and nurses. Much better for us than leaving them in limbo.

Countries like Japan have an aging population and a low birth rate so there are few young people to support that population. The United States is doing much better at balancing our population with regard to age because immigration has brought so many young people to our shores. Yes, I want those young people to be well-educated and integrated into our society.


And I would like them to be from ALL over the world via a legal process; not by virtue of geographical proximity and illegal entry. And I think we should reform the anchor baby laws. What other countries endow citizenship by virtue of birth on the land--not parental citizenship? I am not being facetious--I am curious; what other countries?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, than , bye-bye.

Allowing these kids to go to university and take out student loans isn't going to encourage more people to come here. Poor people come here because they can get jobs as laborers or working as nannies. When the economic outlook for that gets worse (as it has) they stop coming. They're not coming because their one year old child could one day go to the University of Virginia.

And those children who were brought here as babies and grew up here -- it's not like they're going to leave because they can't go to college or take out student loans. They're just going to work at black market jobs and most likely live in poverty. I'd rather they get the opportunities for education and training and become engineers, accountants, businesspeople, and nurses. Much better for us than leaving them in limbo.

Countries like Japan have an aging population and a low birth rate so there are few young people to support that population. The United States is doing much better at balancing our population with regard to age because immigration has brought so many young people to our shores. Yes, I want those young people to be well-educated and integrated into our society.


And I would like them to be from ALL over the world via a legal process; not by virtue of geographical proximity and illegal entry. And I think we should reform the anchor baby laws. What other countries endow citizenship by virtue of birth on the land--not parental citizenship? I am not being facetious--I am curious; what other countries?


You've been hanging out on Fox News haven't you? Glenn Beck much? According to this list there are 33 nations that offer automatic citizenship. I hope it satifies your curiosity.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/issues/birthright-citizenship/nations-observing-birthright-citizenship.html
Anonymous
People come here for a better life but if they don't play by the rules, they undermine their aspirations. I knew a guy who came here on a temporary student visa and stayed beyond the allotted time. He was always worried about things you wouldn't normally worry about as a legal US citizen--renewing his driver's license, getting a job, citizenship verification by his college, getting stopped for a minor traffic violation, traveling to see his family outside of the US etc. He was screwed because he wasn't legally in the country anymore and couldn't really go anywhere else without facing fines and detention/jail time. And he couldn't exactly ask for amnesty because he came here from a wealthy democratic country not at war to get out of a 2 year mandatory military service requirement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, than , bye-bye.

Allowing these kids to go to university and take out student loans isn't going to encourage more people to come here. Poor people come here because they can get jobs as laborers or working as nannies. When the economic outlook for that gets worse (as it has) they stop coming. They're not coming because their one year old child could one day go to the University of Virginia.

And those children who were brought here as babies and grew up here -- it's not like they're going to leave because they can't go to college or take out student loans. They're just going to work at black market jobs and most likely live in poverty. I'd rather they get the opportunities for education and training and become engineers, accountants, businesspeople, and nurses. Much better for us than leaving them in limbo.

Countries like Japan have an aging population and a low birth rate so there are few young people to support that population. The United States is doing much better at balancing our population with regard to age because immigration has brought so many young people to our shores. Yes, I want those young people to be well-educated and integrated into our society.


And I would like them to be from ALL over the world via a legal process; not by virtue of geographical proximity and illegal entry. And I think we should reform the anchor baby laws. What other countries endow citizenship by virtue of birth on the land--not parental citizenship? I am not being facetious--I am curious; what other countries?


You've been hanging out on Fox News haven't you? Glenn Beck much? According to this list there are 33 nations that offer automatic citizenship. I hope it satifies your curiosity.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/issues/birthright-citizenship/nations-observing-birthright-citizenship.html


I am SO SICK of the FOX News / Glenn Beck/ Limbaugh ad nauseum slingshots. Honestly. I asked for a bit of info, you obliged, I will read it. Why the constant need to hassle people who , actually, do watch Fox News with gotcha labels. Yes--I watch FOX. I also read EVERYthing from Hesse to the Qur'an to Doonesbury. You are your "Fox News much?" comment are already that many steps closer to 'close-minded' than me. Yuck.
Anonymous
Interesting to read that other than Canada, the US is the only developed country to other birthright citizenship--and the only country with over 200 million population. Is it bad to ask why? Is it SO wrong to question and explore? YES--I watch FOX News just to get that out of the way (though I don't "Glenn Beck much?").
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:pp, get real. That will just encourage more people to do the same. I don't care if you are on the honor roll and don't speak a word of your birth country's language. If you get caught, than , bye-bye.

Allowing these kids to go to university and take out student loans isn't going to encourage more people to come here. Poor people come here because they can get jobs as laborers or working as nannies. When the economic outlook for that gets worse (as it has) they stop coming. They're not coming because their one year old child could one day go to the University of Virginia.

And those children who were brought here as babies and grew up here -- it's not like they're going to leave because they can't go to college or take out student loans. They're just going to work at black market jobs and most likely live in poverty. I'd rather they get the opportunities for education and training and become engineers, accountants, businesspeople, and nurses. Much better for us than leaving them in limbo.

Countries like Japan have an aging population and a low birth rate so there are few young people to support that population. The United States is doing much better at balancing our population with regard to age because immigration has brought so many young people to our shores. Yes, I want those young people to be well-educated and integrated into our society.


And I would like them to be from ALL over the world via a legal process; not by virtue of geographical proximity and illegal entry. And I think we should reform the anchor baby laws. What other countries endow citizenship by virtue of birth on the land--not parental citizenship? I am not being facetious--I am curious; what other countries?


You've been hanging out on Fox News haven't you? Glenn Beck much? According to this list there are 33 nations that offer automatic citizenship. I hope it satifies your curiosity.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/issues/birthright-citizenship/nations-observing-birthright-citizenship.html


I am SO SICK of the FOX News / Glenn Beck/ Limbaugh ad nauseum slingshots. Honestly. I asked for a bit of info, you obliged, I will read it. Why the constant need to hassle people who , actually, do watch Fox News with gotcha labels. Yes--I watch FOX. I also read EVERYthing from Hesse to the Qur'an to Doonesbury. You are your "Fox News much?" comment are already that many steps closer to 'close-minded' than me. Yuck.


You have a lot of misplaced anger. You seriously just went off over nothing. The only reason I said that was I'd never heard the term anchor baby. When I went to look up the info an article with that exact term came up by Glenn Beck so it made sense to me that maybe you had just read it or saw something by him. I'm not conservative by any means but I Tivo The O'Reilly Factor evry night cause I love the show. I don't really subscribe to the whole if you read certain papers or websites or watch certain shows than you must be blah, blah. Stop looking for insults that aren't there. Not everyone is out to get you because you like Fox.
Anonymous
I think if you're illegal, you broke the law, then you should leave.
I think it gets very complicated when children - who were born and raised here and only know the US as home- are involved. I'm not sure how to deal with it, but lean toward letting the parents/caregivers stay. I don't see what is to be gained by punishing the children by either depriving them of their caregiver or deporting them from the only home they've known. THere would have to be some punishment for the parents, but I am at a loss for what that should be.

You have to remember that we are talking about PEOPLE, not statistics. These are people with lives and families. I don't like people here illegally. Especially when they have no intention of making it legal and playing by the rules (taxes) and, yes, assimilating to our language (as an example). But, I don't think "deport them" or total amnesty is the answer.
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