Redistrict Montgomery County

[Anonymous]

Bring the redistricting on! I live just a few blocks from the divide between WJ and Einstein (and Einstein is MILES closer to the WJ students here). I'm now in the Einstein cluster and perfectly fine with that, but can't imagine that if things actually got redistricted that my home value would go anywhere but up -- but of course the property taxes would go up too.

[Anonymous]

The first step is to bus the current W cluster students to areas like Langley park.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't redistrict and bus people away from their communities you spread the housing out.
So, more low income housing spots in the upper income areas (spread out , not all in one spot otherwise you have a 'wrong side of the tracks' exclusion thing going on). Add some McMansion developments to lower income areas - they will come. There are plenty of liberal people who would move to such a neighborhood as long as it has what they need - easy access to public transportation, parks, shopping, community.

The only holdouts for this concept are the people of Potomac. They want no mixed housing, no ball fields, no schools, nothing. You have to wonder why the county is so afraid of them.

Potomac has Tobeytown. There is no real estate available for urban type housing available as all is privately owned. And they really aren't near public transportation. The buses have no where to go, move around and turn. I can barely drive down some roads. The bicyclists - ugh!

Yes, see, cut off from public transportation. At least hopefully they didn't steal their land like what happened to the Scotland Community?

It's also weird to just have one area of basically isolated low income people. Very small number of people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/in-a-wealthy-md-suburb-some-residents-have-waited-more-than-30-years-for-a-ride/2016/04/30/5ecfb218-00f6-11e6-9203-7b8670959b88_story.html

And that's really more of the North Potomac area - that's pretty far out there.

North Potomac - Rockville
North Bethesda - Rockville

You all must be new around here.

North Potomac = Gaithersburg or Germantown
North Bethesda = Rockville or Wheaton

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But all those numbers would shift when the kids shifted..Your kids test scores is tied to your kid not the school s/he attends.

You are correct PP, but I don't think the W parents realize this. They are just afraid their kids will get involved with the wrong crowd, although, from what I can see, there are plenty of "wrong" crowds in the W cluster schools, too. Their skin color just happens to be lighter. I'm Asian, btw.

Don't tell them that... they might want to send their kids to our schools and their kids could be worse influences on ours. Reality is there is probably much more drugs and alcohol at those schools as that is where the money is. And, all the things that go along with it. But, its ok because its with a specific population.

There is.. the issues are just swept under the rug by the parents' money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bring the redistricting on! I live just a few blocks from the divide between WJ and Einstein (and Einstein is MILES closer to the WJ students here). I'm now in the Einstein cluster and perfectly fine with that, but can't imagine that if things actually got redistricted that my home value would go anywhere but up -- but of course the property taxes would go up too.

I also live on the Einstein side. I don't care if they redistrict but I do care a lot that people are willing to spend $200k to keep their kids away from my kid and his friends over here on our side of the line. It's just so stark here with the line a few blocks away. People think it's a safer investment to live in a rich, mostly white cluster. That is very morally troubling to me. What if you could buy tickets to movies where only white people attended, and they cost more? What if you could pay more to join a swim club where only white people attended, and it cost more? That's how this feels to me.

[Anonymous]

The wealthy MoCo citizens would never stand for widespread redistricting! I would love to see some evening out between the "haves" and the "have nots" happen, though.

As for more drugs and alcohol in the schools with wealthier kids, it is true. Talk to some MCPD officers.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't redistrict and bus people away from their communities you spread the housing out.
So, more low income housing spots in the upper income areas (spread out , not all in one spot otherwise you have a 'wrong side of the tracks' exclusion thing going on). Add some McMansion developments to lower income areas - they will come. There are plenty of liberal people who would move to such a neighborhood as long as it has what they need - easy access to public transportation, parks, shopping, community.

The only holdouts for this concept are the people of Potomac. They want no mixed housing, no ball fields, no schools, nothing. You have to wonder why the county is so afraid of them.

Potomac has Tobeytown. There is no real estate available for urban type housing available as all is privately owned. And they really aren't near public transportation. The buses have no where to go, move around and turn. I can barely drive down some roads. The bicyclists - ugh!

Yes, see, cut off from public transportation. At least hopefully they didn't steal their land like what happened to the Scotland Community?

It's also weird to just have one area of basically isolated low income people. Very small number of people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/in-a-wealthy-md-suburb-some-residents-have-waited-more-than-30-years-for-a-ride/2016/04/30/5ecfb218-00f6-11e6-9203-7b8670959b88_story.html

what happened to scotland?

[Anonymous]

A massive redistricting is definitely needed. My kid drives by a middle school on the way to his middle school. And the kids at that middle school drive by his middle school. Makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A massive redistricting is definitely needed. My kid drives by a middle school on the way to his middle school. And the kids at that middle school drive by his middle school. Makes no sense.

Redistricting can't just be about going to the closest neighborhood school. If we do that, it will result in more resegregation. There has to be busing and magnets and the various ways we get the haves to school with the have-nots and give both good opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:A massive redistricting is definitely needed. My kid drives by a middle school on the way to his middle school. And the kids at that middle school drive by his middle school. Makes no sense.

Redistricting can't just be about going to the closest neighborhood school. If we do that, it will result in more resegregation. There has to be busing and magnets and the various ways we get the haves to school with the have-nots and give both good opportunities.

I really just want my kids to go to the school closest to us. I have no desire to put them on a bus for an extended trip across the county 2x per day. Further, I want my involvement in the school to be easy and I want to be a part of my community. I'd like to see my neighbor at school, the pool, the local library, the grocery store. If I need to run over to school for something, it should be a quick drive, not 20-30 min involving major roads.

For the magnets, I'd want to see an all or nothing proposition. Put a reasonably distanced magnet program in each cluster. The idea that there are 2 MS magnets is nuts. Why should kids have to sit on a bus for 39-45 min to get to school? And the 30-45 min goes both ways---western county kids who would like to attend the TP magnet have to sit in a bus. If you implement SES bussing, you're putting the TP MS kid on a bus to a western school for 39-45 min. That's not fair to any child.

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I really just want my kids to go to the school closest to us. I have no desire to put them on a bus for an extended trip across the county 2x per day. Further, I want my involvement in the school to be easy and I want to be a part of my community. I'd like to see my neighbor at school, the pool, the local library, the grocery store. If I need to run over to school for something, it should be a quick drive, not 20-30 min involving major roads.

For the magnets, I'd want to see an all or nothing proposition. Put a reasonably distanced magnet program in each cluster. The idea that there are 2 MS magnets is nuts. Why should kids have to sit on a bus for 39-45 min to get to school? And the 30-45 min goes both ways---western county kids who would like to attend the TP magnet have to sit in a bus. If you implement SES bussing, you're putting the TP MS kid on a bus to a western school for 39-45 min. That's not fair to any child.

+1 Well said. I would only like to see redistricting to relieve overcrowding, and to keep kids at the closest school to their home. (This also helps with environmental and traffic issues.)

[Anonymous]

Agree with op, i think the whole county needs to be redistricted on a regular basis. Having gone to private school in another area, can confirm that the wealthier the students the more drugs / alcohol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bring the redistricting on! I live just a few blocks from the divide between WJ and Einstein (and Einstein is MILES closer to the WJ students here). I'm now in the Einstein cluster and perfectly fine with that, but can't imagine that if things actually got redistricted that my home value would go anywhere but up -- but of course the property taxes would go up too.

I also live on the Einstein side. I don't care if they redistrict but I do care a lot that people are willing to spend $200k to keep their kids away from my kid and his friends over here on our side of the line. It's just so stark here with the line a few blocks away. People think it's a safer investment to live in a rich, mostly white cluster. That is very morally troubling to me. What if you could buy tickets to movies where only white people attended, and they cost more? What if you could pay more to join a swim club where only white people attended, and it cost more? That's how this feels to me.

Why did you pay more to live in Einstein boundaries than say rather than Northwood (or fill in the blank)? Did you totally ignore the schools? Did you not want your kids near the Northwood kids? I'm not going to presume that. I assume most of us bought a house we could afford with the best schools possible within that budget. Why cast such aspersions to your neighbors?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bring the redistricting on! I live just a few blocks from the divide between WJ and Einstein (and Einstein is MILES closer to the WJ students here). I'm now in the Einstein cluster and perfectly fine with that, but can't imagine that if things actually got redistricted that my home value would go anywhere but up -- but of course the property taxes would go up too.

I also live on the Einstein side. I don't care if they redistrict but I do care a lot that people are willing to spend $200k to keep their kids away from my kid and his friends over here on our side of the line. It's just so stark here with the line a few blocks away. People think it's a safer investment to live in a rich, mostly white cluster. That is very morally troubling to me. What if you could buy tickets to movies where only white people attended, and they cost more? What if you could pay more to join a swim club where only white people attended, and it cost more? That's how this feels to me.

Why did you pay more to live in Einstein boundaries than say rather than Northwood (or fill in the blank)? Did you totally ignore the schools? Did you not want your kids near the Northwood kids? I'm not going to presume that. I assume most of us bought a house we could afford with the best schools possible within that budget. Why cast such aspersions to your neighbors?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A massive redistricting is definitely needed. My kid drives by a middle school on the way to his middle school. And the kids at that middle school drive by his middle school. Makes no sense.

Redistricting can't just be about going to the closest neighborhood school. If we do that, it will result in more resegregation. There has to be busing and magnets and the various ways we get the haves to school with the have-nots and give both good opportunities.

I really just want my kids to go to the school closest to us. I have no desire to put them on a bus for an extended trip across the county 2x per day. Further, I want my involvement in the school to be easy and I want to be a part of my community. I'd like to see my neighbor at school, the pool, the local library, the grocery store. If I need to run over to school for something, it should be a quick drive, not 20-30 min involving major roads.

For the magnets, I'd want to see an all or nothing proposition. Put a reasonably distanced magnet program in each cluster. The idea that there are 2 MS magnets is nuts. Why should kids have to sit on a bus for 39-45 min to get to school? And the 30-45 min goes both ways---western county kids who would like to attend the TP magnet have to sit in a bus. If you implement SES bussing, you're putting the TP MS kid on a bus to a western school for 39-45 min. That's not fair to any child.

+1
I am PP from RM cluster. Thank you for making point I was about to make so eloquently