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Anonymous wrote:Which still continues to skip the fact that you are skimming off the top RM neighborhood kids who are in the magnet..

Yes, we heard you first 1000 times. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:To me it would depend on what would be the goal of such an effort? If it is to alleviate over crowding, I am all for it. If it is for "diversity" than forget it. I dont want my kid bussed across the county to some gang school. FWIW we are in RM cluster, not W

Which school or schools are gang schools in your opinion?

The one we moved away from, Watkins Mill. I would also include Gaithersburg, Seneca Valley, SS schools.

What a snob you are. Did you have a child who actually attended any of these schools? My children are students at one of the schools you listed. They are not afraid to go to school. There are not gang fights in the hallways. My relative's children recently graduated from Watkins Mill, where they were involved in a lot of activities and enjoyed their high school experience; their kids were not afraid to go to school, either.

There are plenty of students from good, caring families at the schools you listed, and teachers/administrators who care about their students. If you wanted to move away because you didn't want your kids to go there, fine, but don't put down a school you don't have any experience with.

Its funny as RM was not a good or nice school when I was growing up. It was one to be avoided. If they truly think RM is better, good luck to them.

RM of today is so not the RM of 20 yrs ago. It has a gs rating of 8. You might say it's the IB program but the MS feeder school JW, which doesn't have a test in magnet program, has a GS rating of 9.

More rich people move to the area so now its well regarded and yet other schools are bashed. RM has had some very serious issues and incidents. But, yes, lets just cover them all up and pretend all is good now. Not a chance I'd send my kids there.

? Because W schools are without incidences? I've read about a few, and know someone who definitely knows that many of the issues at those schools get covered up by wealth parents' money.

And to the other PP who stated it's just the IB, you totally disregarded the second sentence about JW being rated 9. But since it doesn't fit into your narrative, you just can't accept it, can you?

The RM cluster is really the god standard of turning around schools for MCPS. Prior to 1987, JW and RM were in serious trouble. There was extreme underenrollment and the student bodies of the schools were severely underperforming goals. The solution was a multipronged, but highly controversial, set of actions:

(1) Redistrict higher SES areas to JW and RM.
(2) Improve the paper performance of the school to make it more desirable (on paper at least).
(3) Develop new construction into the district targeting families with higher SES.

Redistricting was accomplished by moving Ritchie Park Elementary School from the Frost/Wootton cluster to JW/RM. The families of Ritchie Park were livid and fought this hard. Home values have been affected, but the longterm effects have been blunted. Short-term effects were clear.

Improvement of paper scores was accomplished by bringing in the IB magnet, which initially made up a large percent of the school population. Not only did this improve the paper view of the school--encouraging higher SES families to move to or remain in the district, but it may have positively affected the non-magnet population of the school with increased population and budgets for non-magnet programs, too.

Development of new construction for higher SES families was a huge success with both the Falls Grove and Rose Hill communities. Falls Grove's large houses can sell for over $1m, though there is also mixed development and more urban development. Rose Hill is not mixed, and most homes there currently market for $1m or more when they are even available.

Today, the RM and JW district is highly performing--even for the non-IB-magnet students--a complete turnaround from 30 years ago. Downtown rockville has become much more desirable, and large and expensive construction has continued there, bringing higher SES students to RM as well. Just look at the school ratings of the feeder schools to RM, of which only College Gardens has an immersion program to bring in outside-district students:

College Gardens: 9
Ritchie Park: 8
Beall: 8
Twinbrook: 4
Julius West: 9

Clearly, only Twinbrook is lagging in rating. The district is pretty good. It is the gold standard of how to improve a cluster.

Long term effects? Those that were redistricted see a continued $150K+ drop in value to their homes. I don't think that is blunted. They also moved access to the kids easily walking to Frost and Wootton (since the entire neighborhood is LITERALLY right next to Wootton) and now bus them to JW and RM. So yeah, I think they have the right to be royally pissed off. Loss of $150K in equity, loss of being able to walk to school, and sent to a shitty ass school. There are so many in those developments that go to private schools. Bullis, St E's, St Raphaels, JDS, etc... That is also a loss of $$. You think that is what should happen? You think the county should go in and redistrict nice neighborhoods in great schools to subpar schools? Put middle class families that paid a premium for homes for a certain school and gut them financially?

The Non-W schools are the forgotten ones. Those neighborhoods see their other neighborhood schools like Beverly Farms and Cold Spring with barely 70% capacity while Ritchie Park has taken on the entire Fallsgrove neighborhood and Park Potomac and they are 135% capacity with 7 portables parked outside on the blacktops they used to play on. Promised a 5th elementary school for years and years. Who knows if it will ever come. Meanwhile Beverly Farms looks like a f'ing middle school and Cold Spring has a ridiculous amount of land and will be getting a complete renovation soon.

Can you read? You provided no statistics about the growth rate since the redistricting. There was an initial drop in price. Since, then have the values of homes in Wootton grown faster than the value of homes in RM? The $150k loss in value can be see in Horizon Hill vs. Fox Hills West. Growth rates have been relatively equal for the past 10-20 years between the two communities. In other words, there was an initial hit that is still there today, but the subsequent growth rate not been affected.

The same house in FHW would go for over $150K now and yes it continues to climb while other homes in RP area do not. There are homes in Potomac Woods and Horizon Hill going for the SAME prices from 15+ years ago. No rising at all. Why? The redistrict awhile back made the initial difference but after the move to RM cluster, they eventually added lower SES area in Rockville that was not normally a part of RP. The diversity is changing drastically as many of the entire school families used to be single family homes (just like Cold Spring) but now has ALL the new urban development that has been added. The required low income housing is in apartments in Park Potomac, apartments/condos in Fallsgove, and a few Tower Oaks townhomes. Add that with the lower SES area Rockville lovingly gave them, and RP now went from 4% to over 20% FARMS and is grossly overcrowded, while it's three neighboring elementary schools did not take on any new housing or redistricting and still remain at below 5% FARMS with under capacity . Please do not fool yourself into thinking people are paying the same prices for homes. As a matter of fact, Potomac Woods and Horizon Hill have seen another decrease in housing prices and how quickly they are sold. What once was in the high 700's/low 800's, is now more into high $600/low $700. And many that are moving in are because they are closer to their private schools, not because of RM.

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Anonymous wrote:Which still continues to skip the fact that you are skimming off the top RM neighborhood kids who are in the magnet..

Yes, we heard you first 1000 times. Thank you.

Ugh, seriously this lady is relentless. It is 25 kids. They won't make a difference. Your school is still BELOW average to the rest of the county without IB. And that is including schools like Wheaton as part of the average. I am glad you like your school but facts are facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Which still continues to skip the fact that you are skimming off the top RM neighborhood kids who are in the magnet..

Yes, we heard you first 1000 times. Thank you.

Ugh, seriously this lady is relentless. It is 25 kids. They won't make a difference. Your school is still BELOW average to the rest of the county without IB. And that is including schools like Wheaton as part of the average. I am glad you like your school but facts are facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Which still continues to skip the fact that you are skimming off the top RM neighborhood kids who are in the magnet..

Yes, we heard you first 1000 times. Thank you.

Ugh, seriously this lady is relentless. It is 25 kids. They won't make a difference. Your school is still BELOW average to the rest of the county without IB. And that is including schools like Wheaton as part of the average. I am glad you like your school but facts are facts.

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NP here and genuinely curious, where can one find the facts? Where do you see IB vs non-IB performance?

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You didn't back up any of your arguments with anything of value. I stated 3 things that MCPS did. You claimed all they did was redistrict. Where is your citation that real estate growth rates are lagging for Falls Grove? The RMIB program was established in 1987--the same year that the redistricting occurred. You stated that they did it afterwards. Donald, you can't win here, either.

np - No need to attack the pp just because you have a different opinion. You think RM is great, PP doesn't. Different people can have different opinions on the same topic. Grow up.

people have used facts to backup the claim that RM is a great school. What facts do naysayers use to backup their claim that RM is terrible without IB? As stated before the MS feeder JW is rated highly. Majority go to RM. So, discounting the 100 spots per class for test-in magnets from other schools (and remember that 25 additional spots go to inbound RM) the rest of the student body is made mostly up by the JW feeder students. So, if JW students are doing well, how do they magically turn out to be underachievers when they hit HS?

This was discussed recently here which showed (estimated) SAT score of RM (min IB) slightly below county avg.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/590814.page

Let's not repeat.

And let's not have to repeat that SAT scores are a reflection of SES, and that RM does indeed have a higher % of FARMS than W cluster schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Which still continues to skip the fact that you are skimming off the top RM neighborhood kids who are in the magnet..

Yes, we heard you first 1000 times. Thank you.

Ugh, seriously this lady is relentless. It is 25 kids. They won't make a difference. Your school is still BELOW average to the rest of the county without IB. And that is including schools like Wheaton as part of the average. I am glad you like your school but facts are facts.

Not as relentless as those who keep trashing the school.

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To me it would depend on what would be the goal of such an effort? If it is to alleviate over crowding, I am all for it. If it is for "diversity" than forget it. I dont want my kid bussed across the county to some gang school. FWIW we are in RM cluster, not W

Which school or schools are gang schools in your opinion?

The one we moved away from, Watkins Mill. I would also include Gaithersburg, Seneca Valley, SS schools.


---Interesting how no one touched this one. You think Silver Spring schools are gang schools? We have exactly what you're all complaining about wanting---neighborhood schools that our kids walk to (we do--it's 5 min, then I walk to the Metro), crosswalk guards, smaller class sizes (22 in my kids' K class and there are three classes), proximity to public transportation. My kids are in ES and our school has a tight, supportive community that draws from the immediate neighborhood. Our school ranking is high and so far I'm really happy with the teachers and the programs. My kids take after-school language classes and love KidsCo. And we'll never have to take a bus.

Yes, there are definitely still rough areas in SS and it has way more low income families then west MC, but the people are really nice, genuine, down to earth families who are invested in our town. We could have afforded to buy in Bethesda but chose not to because of the snobbery and the school overcrowding, and it's a decision that we are still very happy to have made. Instead of making assumptions, take a look at the facts--there are 7K new housing units going up in or near DTSS. Housing prices are going through the roof. Stop whining about why Bethesda/Rockville schools aren't ideal and stop making assumptions about places you don't even go.

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Anonymous wrote:Which still continues to skip the fact that you are skimming off the top RM neighborhood kids who are in the magnet..

Yes, we heard you first 1000 times. Thank you.

Ugh, seriously this lady is relentless. It is 25 kids. They won't make a difference. Your school is still BELOW average to the rest of the county without IB. And that is including schools like Wheaton as part of the average. I am glad you like your school but facts are facts.

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NP here and genuinely curious, where can one find the facts? Where do you see IB vs non-IB performance?

Look over this thread, page 7 starting @1400 post. Not exact science but it provides with enough pieces to come up with your own conclusion

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/590814.page

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Anonymous wrote:To me it would depend on what would be the goal of such an effort? If it is to alleviate over crowding, I am all for it. If it is for "diversity" than forget it. I dont want my kid bussed across the county to some gang school. FWIW we are in RM cluster, not W

Which school or schools are gang schools in your opinion?

The one we moved away from, Watkins Mill. I would also include Gaithersburg, Seneca Valley, SS schools.

What a snob you are. Did you have a child who actually attended any of these schools? My children are students at one of the schools you listed. They are not afraid to go to school. There are not gang fights in the hallways. My relative's children recently graduated from Watkins Mill, where they were involved in a lot of activities and enjoyed their high school experience; their kids were not afraid to go to school, either.

There are plenty of students from good, caring families at the schools you listed, and teachers/administrators who care about their students. If you wanted to move away because you didn't want your kids to go there, fine, but don't put down a school you don't have any experience with.

Its funny as RM was not a good or nice school when I was growing up. It was one to be avoided. If they truly think RM is better, good luck to them.

RM of today is so not the RM of 20 yrs ago. It has a gs rating of 8. You might say it's the IB program but the MS feeder school JW, which doesn't have a test in magnet program, has a GS rating of 9.

More rich people move to the area so now its well regarded and yet other schools are bashed. RM has had some very serious issues and incidents. But, yes, lets just cover them all up and pretend all is good now. Not a chance I'd send my kids there.

? Because W schools are without incidences? I've read about a few, and know someone who definitely knows that many of the issues at those schools get covered up by wealth parents' money.

And to the other PP who stated it's just the IB, you totally disregarded the second sentence about JW being rated 9. But since it doesn't fit into your narrative, you just can't accept it, can you?

The RM cluster is really the god standard of turning around schools for MCPS. Prior to 1987, JW and RM were in serious trouble. There was extreme underenrollment and the student bodies of the schools were severely underperforming goals. The solution was a multipronged, but highly controversial, set of actions:

(1) Redistrict higher SES areas to JW and RM.
(2) Improve the paper performance of the school to make it more desirable (on paper at least).
(3) Develop new construction into the district targeting families with higher SES.

Redistricting was accomplished by moving Ritchie Park Elementary School from the Frost/Wootton cluster to JW/RM. The families of Ritchie Park were livid and fought this hard. Home values have been affected, but the longterm effects have been blunted. Short-term effects were clear.

Improvement of paper scores was accomplished by bringing in the IB magnet, which initially made up a large percent of the school population. Not only did this improve the paper view of the school--encouraging higher SES families to move to or remain in the district, but it may have positively affected the non-magnet population of the school with increased population and budgets for non-magnet programs, too.

Development of new construction for higher SES families was a huge success with both the Falls Grove and Rose Hill communities. Falls Grove's large houses can sell for over $1m, though there is also mixed development and more urban development. Rose Hill is not mixed, and most homes there currently market for $1m or more when they are even available.

Today, the RM and JW district is highly performing--even for the non-IB-magnet students--a complete turnaround from 30 years ago. Downtown rockville has become much more desirable, and large and expensive construction has continued there, bringing higher SES students to RM as well. Just look at the school ratings of the feeder schools to RM, of which only College Gardens has an immersion program to bring in outside-district students:

College Gardens: 9
Ritchie Park: 8
Beall: 8
Twinbrook: 4
Julius West: 9

Clearly, only Twinbrook is lagging in rating. The district is pretty good. It is the gold standard of how to improve a cluster.

Long term effects? Those that were redistricted see a continued $150K+ drop in value to their homes. I don't think that is blunted. They also moved access to the kids easily walking to Frost and Wootton (since the entire neighborhood is LITERALLY right next to Wootton) and now bus them to JW and RM. So yeah, I think they have the right to be royally pissed off. Loss of $150K in equity, loss of being able to walk to school, and sent to a shitty ass school. There are so many in those developments that go to private schools. Bullis, St E's, St Raphaels, JDS, etc... That is also a loss of $$. You think that is what should happen? You think the county should go in and redistrict nice neighborhoods in great schools to subpar schools? Put middle class families that paid a premium for homes for a certain school and gut them financially?

The Non-W schools are the forgotten ones. Those neighborhoods see their other neighborhood schools like Beverly Farms and Cold Spring with barely 70% capacity while Ritchie Park has taken on the entire Fallsgrove neighborhood and Park Potomac and they are 135% capacity with 7 portables parked outside on the blacktops they used to play on. Promised a 5th elementary school for years and years. Who knows if it will ever come. Meanwhile Beverly Farms looks like a f'ing middle school and Cold Spring has a ridiculous amount of land and will be getting a complete renovation soon.

Can you read? You provided no statistics about the growth rate since the redistricting. There was an initial drop in price. Since, then have the values of homes in Wootton grown faster than the value of homes in RM? The $150k loss in value can be see in Horizon Hill vs. Fox Hills West. Growth rates have been relatively equal for the past 10-20 years between the two communities. In other words, there was an initial hit that is still there today, but the subsequent growth rate not been affected.

The same house in FHW would go for over $150K now and yes it continues to climb while other homes in RP area do not. There are homes in Potomac Woods and Horizon Hill going for the SAME prices from 15+ years ago. No rising at all. Why? The redistrict awhile back made the initial difference but after the move to RM cluster, they eventually added lower SES area in Rockville that was not normally a part of RP. The diversity is changing drastically as many of the entire school families used to be single family homes (just like Cold Spring) but now has ALL the new urban development that has been added. The required low income housing is in apartments in Park Potomac, apartments/condos in Fallsgove, and a few Tower Oaks townhomes. Add that with the lower SES area Rockville lovingly gave them, and RP now went from 4% to over 20% FARMS and is grossly overcrowded, while it's three neighboring elementary schools did not take on any new housing or redistricting and still remain at below 5% FARMS with under capacity . Please do not fool yourself into thinking people are paying the same prices for homes. As a matter of fact, Potomac Woods and Horizon Hill have seen another decrease in housing prices and how quickly they are sold. What once was in the high 700's/low 800's, is now more into high $600/low $700. And many that are moving in are because they are closer to their private schools, not because of RM.

You are full of crap. 15 years ago was 2001. In 2001, most of the homes in Horizon Hill were selling for about $400k (I checked!). Over 15 years, that is about a 3.8% annual growth rate if they are selling for $700k.. In FHW, many of the houses in 2001 were selling for $450-500k--lets say $475 or so. If they sell for $875 now (the range is actually quite large), thats an annual growth rate of about 4.15%. These two numbers are very close--perhaps even statistically the same.

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Anonymous wrote:To me it would depend on what would be the goal of such an effort? If it is to alleviate over crowding, I am all for it. If it is for "diversity" than forget it. I dont want my kid bussed across the county to some gang school. FWIW we are in RM cluster, not W

Which school or schools are gang schools in your opinion?

The one we moved away from, Watkins Mill. I would also include Gaithersburg, Seneca Valley, SS schools.

What a snob you are. Did you have a child who actually attended any of these schools? My children are students at one of the schools you listed. They are not afraid to go to school. There are not gang fights in the hallways. My relative's children recently graduated from Watkins Mill, where they were involved in a lot of activities and enjoyed their high school experience; their kids were not afraid to go to school, either.

There are plenty of students from good, caring families at the schools you listed, and teachers/administrators who care about their students. If you wanted to move away because you didn't want your kids to go there, fine, but don't put down a school you don't have any experience with.

I might be a snob, but we did have "first hand" experience, albeit not through our kid attending. Watched 4 neighbor kids graduate and attended graduation ceremonies for all of them (3 years btb). Each year it got worse. We also volunteered at couple of events (to help neighbor out, as she didnt have enough volunteers). Oh, and my friends neighbor was a pot addicted teacher at WM. Thats for high school. Middle school, witnessed arrest of minor with gun on school grounds. Elementary has a score of 2 out of 10 and NONE of the kids in neighborhood we were part of went there in the end (magnet, private, whathave you).
I want the best for my kid, if the school works for you - great, enjoy less crowding, more resources, whatever. I am just not sending my kid there.

Ding-ding-ding! No first hand knowledge of the school, because your child didn't attend the school. Now, what was that about all the gang violence?!

Let's just be honest here -- you didn't want your child to go to the school because of the diversity and the FARMS rate. And while some people from your neighborhood may have chosen to go another route, absolutely fail to believe that not one person in your neighborhood sent their child to the public schools. But keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better.

The teacher who is "addicted" to pot? That's rich. I'm sure there are no teachers who smoke weed or do any other drugs in other MCPS schools...

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Anonymous wrote:To me it would depend on what would be the goal of such an effort? If it is to alleviate over crowding, I am all for it. If it is for "diversity" than forget it. I dont want my kid bussed across the county to some gang school. FWIW we are in RM cluster, not W

Which school or schools are gang schools in your opinion?

The one we moved away from, Watkins Mill. I would also include Gaithersburg, Seneca Valley, SS schools.

What a snob you are. Did you have a child who actually attended any of these schools? My children are students at one of the schools you listed. They are not afraid to go to school. There are not gang fights in the hallways. My relative's children recently graduated from Watkins Mill, where they were involved in a lot of activities and enjoyed their high school experience; their kids were not afraid to go to school, either.

There are plenty of students from good, caring families at the schools you listed, and teachers/administrators who care about their students. If you wanted to move away because you didn't want your kids to go there, fine, but don't put down a school you don't have any experience with.

Its funny as RM was not a good or nice school when I was growing up. It was one to be avoided. If they truly think RM is better, good luck to them.

RM of today is so not the RM of 20 yrs ago. It has a gs rating of 8. You might say it's the IB program but the MS feeder school JW, which doesn't have a test in magnet program, has a GS rating of 9.

More rich people move to the area so now its well regarded and yet other schools are bashed. RM has had some very serious issues and incidents. But, yes, lets just cover them all up and pretend all is good now. Not a chance I'd send my kids there.

? Because W schools are without incidences? I've read about a few, and know someone who definitely knows that many of the issues at those schools get covered up by wealth parents' money.

And to the other PP who stated it's just the IB, you totally disregarded the second sentence about JW being rated 9. But since it doesn't fit into your narrative, you just can't accept it, can you?

The RM cluster is really the god standard of turning around schools for MCPS. Prior to 1987, JW and RM were in serious trouble. There was extreme underenrollment and the student bodies of the schools were severely underperforming goals. The solution was a multipronged, but highly controversial, set of actions:

(1) Redistrict higher SES areas to JW and RM.
(2) Improve the paper performance of the school to make it more desirable (on paper at least).
(3) Develop new construction into the district targeting families with higher SES.

Redistricting was accomplished by moving Ritchie Park Elementary School from the Frost/Wootton cluster to JW/RM. The families of Ritchie Park were livid and fought this hard. Home values have been affected, but the longterm effects have been blunted. Short-term effects were clear.

Improvement of paper scores was accomplished by bringing in the IB magnet, which initially made up a large percent of the school population. Not only did this improve the paper view of the school--encouraging higher SES families to move to or remain in the district, but it may have positively affected the non-magnet population of the school with increased population and budgets for non-magnet programs, too.

Development of new construction for higher SES families was a huge success with both the Falls Grove and Rose Hill communities. Falls Grove's large houses can sell for over $1m, though there is also mixed development and more urban development. Rose Hill is not mixed, and most homes there currently market for $1m or more when they are even available.

Today, the RM and JW district is highly performing--even for the non-IB-magnet students--a complete turnaround from 30 years ago. Downtown rockville has become much more desirable, and large and expensive construction has continued there, bringing higher SES students to RM as well. Just look at the school ratings of the feeder schools to RM, of which only College Gardens has an immersion program to bring in outside-district students:

College Gardens: 9
Ritchie Park: 8
Beall: 8
Twinbrook: 4
Julius West: 9

Clearly, only Twinbrook is lagging in rating. The district is pretty good. It is the gold standard of how to improve a cluster.

Long term effects? Those that were redistricted see a continued $150K+ drop in value to their homes. I don't think that is blunted. They also moved access to the kids easily walking to Frost and Wootton (since the entire neighborhood is LITERALLY right next to Wootton) and now bus them to JW and RM. So yeah, I think they have the right to be royally pissed off. Loss of $150K in equity, loss of being able to walk to school, and sent to a shitty ass school. There are so many in those developments that go to private schools. Bullis, St E's, St Raphaels, JDS, etc... That is also a loss of $$. You think that is what should happen? You think the county should go in and redistrict nice neighborhoods in great schools to subpar schools? Put middle class families that paid a premium for homes for a certain school and gut them financially?

The Non-W schools are the forgotten ones. Those neighborhoods see their other neighborhood schools like Beverly Farms and Cold Spring with barely 70% capacity while Ritchie Park has taken on the entire Fallsgrove neighborhood and Park Potomac and they are 135% capacity with 7 portables parked outside on the blacktops they used to play on. Promised a 5th elementary school for years and years. Who knows if it will ever come. Meanwhile Beverly Farms looks like a f'ing middle school and Cold Spring has a ridiculous amount of land and will be getting a complete renovation soon.

Can you read? You provided no statistics about the growth rate since the redistricting. There was an initial drop in price. Since, then have the values of homes in Wootton grown faster than the value of homes in RM? The $150k loss in value can be see in Horizon Hill vs. Fox Hills West. Growth rates have been relatively equal for the past 10-20 years between the two communities. In other words, there was an initial hit that is still there today, but the subsequent growth rate not been affected.

The same house in FHW would go for over $150K now and yes it continues to climb while other homes in RP area do not. There are homes in Potomac Woods and Horizon Hill going for the SAME prices from 15+ years ago. No rising at all. Why? The redistrict awhile back made the initial difference but after the move to RM cluster, they eventually added lower SES area in Rockville that was not normally a part of RP. The diversity is changing drastically as many of the entire school families used to be single family homes (just like Cold Spring) but now has ALL the new urban development that has been added. The required low income housing is in apartments in Park Potomac, apartments/condos in Fallsgove, and a few Tower Oaks townhomes. Add that with the lower SES area Rockville lovingly gave them, and RP now went from 4% to over 20% FARMS and is grossly overcrowded, while it's three neighboring elementary schools did not take on any new housing or redistricting and still remain at below 5% FARMS with under capacity . Please do not fool yourself into thinking people are paying the same prices for homes. As a matter of fact, Potomac Woods and Horizon Hill have seen another decrease in housing prices and how quickly they are sold. What once was in the high 700's/low 800's, is now more into high $600/low $700. And many that are moving in are because they are closer to their private schools, not because of RM.

You are full of crap. 15 years ago was 2001. In 2001, most of the homes in Horizon Hill were selling for about $400k (I checked!). Over 15 years, that is about a 3.8% annual growth rate if they are selling for $700k.. In FHW, many of the houses in 2001 were selling for $450-500k--lets say $475 or so. If they sell for $875 now (the range is actually quite large), thats an annual growth rate of about 4.15%. These two numbers are very close--perhaps even statistically the same.

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I purchased in that area for $609,000 in 2003. No way were prices in the low $400,000. I do remember looking in that entire area. Prices were higher for the Wootton schools, even when they were original. Green kitchens, blue tubs. It was amazing but the schools are a huge factor in selling prices. Still are. I can't imagine MC schools doing that to any other neighborhoods right now. You would ruin homeowners equity. Prices depend on which school. Always have and always will

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Leggiit wants to close the achievement gap - which may be impossible. He is risking his talent pool to raise the lower end of the spectrum. Residents should wake up and ask about this.

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Legitt is as narcistic as Obama, Trump and Hillary. He does not care about our future. He wants to place his name on something.

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Pp so true HRC wants Obama care to fail (which she will help) to implement Hillary Cares. If Obama would stop talking about himself, he may see it and support Trump