Janney: Good, or the BEST?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which is "the best" based on last year's test scores?

Apparently when you control and compare apples to apples, Janney has the worst scores WOTP. From another thread:
Anonymous wrote:
I just did scroll through the race breakdown for many of those schools. You are right. Much different numbers, and splitting hairs -- at least for white students.


agreed - scores for the white kids scoring 4 or 5 on PARCC at these schools are fairly close - splitting hairs etc. However Hearst is on top for ELA and is No. 2 for Math behind Hyde. just sayin'

First % is for ELA and then Math

white kids at Hearst were at 85% and 89% respectively

white kids at Janney were at 71% and 80% respectively.

white kids at Mann were at 83% and 84% respectively

white kids at Murch were at 76% and 82% respectively

white kids at Lafayette were at 72% and 87% respectively

white kids at Key were at 81% and 84%

white kids at Eaton were at 77% and 80%

white kids at Hyde were at 80% and 91%

white kids at Ross - no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Shepherd no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Stoddert were at 76% and 84%

The thing is this doesn't mean that Janney serves white kids the worst. It means a) they don't spend a lot of time teaching to the test, and b) parents aren't pushing their kids to do well on standardized tests. Both of these are positives in my book.

I'm not one of the those who believe that Janney is the best elementary, I'm sure others are just as good and each school has its unique qualities that meets different families' needs. But I really wouldn't base my decision on these differences in test scores.

[Anonymous]

I agree, DCPS teaches way too much to the test and it's good to see a school that pushes against that a bit. I saw Kaya Henderson on a PBS program the other day, and she was embarrassing. This is the best that DC could do the last 8 years for school leadership?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which is "the best" based on last year's test scores?

Apparently when you control and compare apples to apples, Janney has the worst scores WOTP. From another thread:
Anonymous wrote:
I just did scroll through the race breakdown for many of those schools. You are right. Much different numbers, and splitting hairs -- at least for white students.


agreed - scores for the white kids scoring 4 or 5 on PARCC at these schools are fairly close - splitting hairs etc. However Hearst is on top for ELA and is No. 2 for Math behind Hyde. just sayin'

First % is for ELA and then Math

white kids at Hearst were at 85% and 89% respectively

white kids at Janney were at 71% and 80% respectively.

white kids at Mann were at 83% and 84% respectively

white kids at Murch were at 76% and 82% respectively

white kids at Lafayette were at 72% and 87% respectively

white kids at Key were at 81% and 84%

white kids at Eaton were at 77% and 80%

white kids at Hyde were at 80% and 91%

white kids at Ross - no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Shepherd no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Stoddert were at 76% and 84%

The thing is this doesn't mean that Janney serves white kids the worst. It means a) they don't spend a lot of time teaching to the test, and b) parents aren't pushing their kids to do well on standardized tests. Both of these are positives in my book.

I'm not one of the those who believe that Janney is the best elementary, I'm sure others are just as good and each school has its unique qualities that meets different families' needs. But I really wouldn't base my decision on these differences in test scores.

So the schools that score 5 points better mean they and parents are teaching to the test? That's ridiculous. There is not need to spin it, thisbis not the presidential campaign. I like how you say you're sure there are others that are just as good. How about there could be others that are better? Other schools also score well (better), they also fed to Deal, they aren't nearly as crowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which is "the best" based on last year's test scores?

Apparently when you control and compare apples to apples, Janney has the worst scores WOTP. From another thread:
Anonymous wrote:
I just did scroll through the race breakdown for many of those schools. You are right. Much different numbers, and splitting hairs -- at least for white students.


agreed - scores for the white kids scoring 4 or 5 on PARCC at these schools are fairly close - splitting hairs etc. However Hearst is on top for ELA and is No. 2 for Math behind Hyde. just sayin'

First % is for ELA and then Math

white kids at Hearst were at 85% and 89% respectively

white kids at Janney were at 71% and 80% respectively.

white kids at Mann were at 83% and 84% respectively

white kids at Murch were at 76% and 82% respectively

white kids at Lafayette were at 72% and 87% respectively

white kids at Key were at 81% and 84%

white kids at Eaton were at 77% and 80%

white kids at Hyde were at 80% and 91%

white kids at Ross - no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Shepherd no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Stoddert were at 76% and 84%

The thing is this doesn't mean that Janney serves white kids the worst. It means a) they don't spend a lot of time teaching to the test, and b) parents aren't pushing their kids to do well on standardized tests. Both of these are positives in my book.

I'm not one of the those who believe that Janney is the best elementary, I'm sure others are just as good and each school has its unique qualities that meets different families' needs. But I really wouldn't base my decision on these differences in test scores.

So the schools that score 5 points better mean they and parents are teaching to the test? That's ridiculous. There is not need to spin it, thisbis not the presidential campaign. I like how you say you're sure there are others that are just as good. How about there could be others that are better? Other schools also score well (better), they also fed to Deal, they aren't nearly as crowded.

I don't judge generally high performing schools based on test scores, I actually couldn't care less about them. And I cannot judge the other schools in question here at all because I have no experience with them. As I indicated, I believe there is no objective measure by which to say one is better than the other (which is what I meant by saying they all have their unique qualities). So your rant really misses the point - I have zero interest in this sort of comparison and competition. But carry on!

[Anonymous]

^^ I thind by 'high performing' you mean rich schools.

So are test scores a valid way to judge poor schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which is "the best" based on last year's test scores?

Apparently when you control and compare apples to apples, Janney has the worst scores WOTP. From another thread:
Anonymous wrote:
I just did scroll through the race breakdown for many of those schools. You are right. Much different numbers, and splitting hairs -- at least for white students.


agreed - scores for the white kids scoring 4 or 5 on PARCC at these schools are fairly close - splitting hairs etc. However Hearst is on top for ELA and is No. 2 for Math behind Hyde. just sayin'

First % is for ELA and then Math

white kids at Hearst were at 85% and 89% respectively

white kids at Janney were at 71% and 80% respectively.

white kids at Mann were at 83% and 84% respectively

white kids at Murch were at 76% and 82% respectively

white kids at Lafayette were at 72% and 87% respectively

white kids at Key were at 81% and 84%

white kids at Eaton were at 77% and 80%

white kids at Hyde were at 80% and 91%

white kids at Ross - no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Shepherd no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Stoddert were at 76% and 84%

The thing is this doesn't mean that Janney serves white kids the worst. It means a) they don't spend a lot of time teaching to the test, and b) parents aren't pushing their kids to do well on standardized tests. Both of these are positives in my book.

I'm not one of the those who believe that Janney is the best elementary, I'm sure others are just as good and each school has its unique qualities that meets different families' needs. But I really wouldn't base my decision on these differences in test scores.

You wouldn't base your decision on these differences in test scores, but have no problem making up "a.)" and " b.)". You made them up because Janney got beat. You must have missed the computer glitch excuse which is much better than your a/b.
To be sure, are you talking about Janney in a.) and b.) or can it be any of the other schools mentioned above? Stoddert doesn't teach to the test, but had no problem doing well.

[Anonymous]

Janney's scores are going down because it's so crowded. No longer the best, but still a very good school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which is "the best" based on last year's test scores?

Apparently when you control and compare apples to apples, Janney has the worst scores WOTP. From another thread:
Anonymous wrote:
I just did scroll through the race breakdown for many of those schools. You are right. Much different numbers, and splitting hairs -- at least for white students.


agreed - scores for the white kids scoring 4 or 5 on PARCC at these schools are fairly close - splitting hairs etc. However Hearst is on top for ELA and is No. 2 for Math behind Hyde. just sayin'

First % is for ELA and then Math

white kids at Hearst were at 85% and 89% respectively

white kids at Janney were at 71% and 80% respectively.

white kids at Mann were at 83% and 84% respectively

white kids at Murch were at 76% and 82% respectively

white kids at Lafayette were at 72% and 87% respectively

white kids at Key were at 81% and 84%

white kids at Eaton were at 77% and 80%

white kids at Hyde were at 80% and 91%

white kids at Ross - no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Shepherd no data b/c too few white kids

white kids at Stoddert were at 76% and 84%

The thing is this doesn't mean that Janney serves white kids the worst. It means a) they don't spend a lot of time teaching to the test, and b) parents aren't pushing their kids to do well on standardized tests. Both of these are positives in my book.

I'm not one of the those who believe that Janney is the best elementary, I'm sure others are just as good and each school has its unique qualities that meets different families' needs. But I really wouldn't base my decision on these differences in test scores.

You wouldn't base your decision on these differences in test scores, but have no problem making up "a.)" and " b.)". You made them up because Janney got beat. You must have missed the computer glitch excuse which is much better than your a/b.
To be sure, are you talking about Janney in a.) and b.) or can it be any of the other schools mentioned above? Stoddert doesn't teach to the test, but had no problem doing well.

You really don't believe that I don't care about the scores, do you? Maybe you will if I tell you I'm not American? I think you guys are INSANE with your standardized testing and rabid competition about it. "Janney got beat" says it all. I better get out of here!

[Anonymous]

The most logical conclusion based on the test scores (but only for white kids -- ?!) is Janney is not "the best." Full stop. Next thread please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Troll. No key parents post on DCUM and/or deign to go to Janney

+ 1. Heard at key auction "what's an 'AU Park'? How close is that to Jackson Hole?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Janney's scores are going down because it's so crowded. No longer the best, but still a very good school.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janney's scores are going down because it's so crowded. No longer the best, but still a very good school.

This.

Not sure if it was ever considered the best. Def top 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janney's scores are going down because it's so crowded. No longer the best, but still a very good school.

This.

Not sure if it was ever considered the best. Def top 5.

I'm truly curious how all these posters are even making any of these ranking judgments. Is it purely on the basis of test scores? If so, that's a pretty useless metric at this level (when we are talking schools with a generally high level of proficiency). As someone whose kids are not yet at Janney, it would be interesting to hear something about the more important factors that go into assessing the quality of a school. You know, principal, teachers, special programs, extra-curricular offerings, facilities, aftercare, etc. Crowding has been mentioned, but from what I have heard from Janney parents and on this board, the class sizes (outside of a couple of recent balloon grades) are actually not that big and have been going down lately. The Janney parent community has been maligned, but those rumors haven't corresponded to my experience of actual parents I have met in real life.

Ultimately, the premise of the thread is as ridiculous as many of the responses.

[Anonymous]

crowded? The school is large, but the classes sizes are very good.

[Anonymous]

I see a lot of parents who do not seem that hung up on testing at NW schools. Is this a class attitude? Serious question here.

For e.g. No many parents who push for enrichment classes there, not wanting homework for kids, more easy going parents who want an easy childhood for their progeny.