Rulemaking on residency fraud: Comment now!

[Anonymous]

Do her fuzzy ethics put a strain on your friendship?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, this is a big deal. DC offers free PK and surrounding counties do not-- that is HUGE incentive to cheat. One of the people profiled in that daily caller is a friend of mine. She (a PG county resident) said honestly that's what everyone she knows in her circle does and they don't (or didn't) consider it to be a big deal. Generations of her family lived or still live in DC and using their addresses is just very common, she told me.

+1. There is a hearts and mind component to this. That's why OSSE wants to codify that legal AND physical presence in DC is required. The people PP described can prove legal residency but not physical residence.

OSSE is also pushing residency fraud messages via Metrobus ads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some utilities are paid for by landlord. I say pull DC tax records. The DOE has live records of everyone paying DC taxes. For unemployment, then you can use alternative methods

Agree. Someone please explain what would be wrong with requiring tax records and as an alternative a bunch of other documentation + a home visit (or something like that. Pay stub is way too easy to fake.

[Anonymous]

Will these rules only apply for those who reside outside of DC? What about people who live in DC and own a property in one neighborhood and claim in-boundary status, but actually live in another neighborhood?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will these rules only apply for those who reside outside of DC? What about people who live in DC and own a property in one neighborhood and claim in-boundary status, but actually live in another neighborhood?

Ha! Good one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some utilities are paid for by landlord. I say pull DC tax records. The DOE has live records of everyone paying DC taxes. For unemployment, then you can use alternative methods

Agree. Someone please explain what would be wrong with requiring tax records and as an alternative a bunch of other documentation + a home visit (or something like that. Pay stub is way too easy to fake.

They are not welcome in my house. Nope. They can pull the tax records, at their expense.

[Anonymous]

They also need to crack down on custody fraud. It is far too easy to produce solid residency paperwork for a family member who does live in DC and then a note indicating that child is living with that relative (when in fact they are living with parents outside of DC).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, this is a big deal. DC offers free PK and surrounding counties do not-- that is HUGE incentive to cheat. One of the people profiled in that daily caller is a friend of mine. She (a PG county resident) said honestly that's what everyone she knows in her circle does and they don't (or didn't) consider it to be a big deal. Generations of her family lived or still live in DC and[b] using their addresses is just very common [\b], she told me.

I still don't get how you can just "use another address" without jumping through a lot of hoops (putting bills and cars registered in the other address in your name, for example).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, this is a big deal. DC offers free PK and surrounding counties do not-- that is HUGE incentive to cheat. One of the people profiled in that daily caller is a friend of mine. She (a PG county resident) said honestly that's what everyone she knows in her circle does and they don't (or didn't) consider it to be a big deal. Generations of her family lived or still live in DC and[b] using their addresses is just very common [\b], she told me.

I still don't get how you can just "use another address" without jumping through a lot of hoops (putting bills and cars registered in the other address in your name, for example).

You do jump through them, but you do it as a matter of course. You just don't think it's a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do her fuzzy ethics put a strain on your friendship?

We're more acquaintances- share the same activity group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some utilities are paid for by landlord. I say pull DC tax records. The DOE has live records of everyone paying DC taxes. For unemployment, then you can use alternative methods

Agree. Someone please explain what would be wrong with requiring tax records and as an alternative a bunch of other documentation + a home visit (or something like that. Pay stub is way too easy to fake.

I worry about relying upon DC government to be able to accurately come up with the data. There is so much simple stuff they get wrong...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, this is a big deal. DC offers free PK and surrounding counties do not-- that is HUGE incentive to cheat. One of the people profiled in that daily caller is a friend of mine. She (a PG county resident) said honestly that's what everyone she knows in her circle does and they don't (or didn't) consider it to be a big deal. Generations of her family lived or still live in DC and[b] using their addresses is just very common [\b], she told me.

I still don't get how you can just "use another address" without jumping through a lot of hoops (putting bills and cars registered in the other address in your name, for example).

It's not that difficult really. My mother moved into my old place, and she continued to make payments on the utility bills that are still under my name. I'm not committing residency fraud but just lazy to make the switch over. I trust my mother to make the payments and the utility companies don't care as long as someone is paying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, this is a big deal. DC offers free PK and surrounding counties do not-- that is HUGE incentive to cheat. One of the people profiled in that daily caller is a friend of mine. She (a PG county resident) said honestly that's what everyone she knows in her circle does and they don't (or didn't) consider it to be a big deal. Generations of her family lived or still live in DC and[b] using their addresses is just very common [\b], she told me.

I still don't get how you can just "use another address" without jumping through a lot of hoops (putting bills and cars registered in the other address in your name, for example).

It would take me about 8 seconds to log in and change the address for my pay stubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, this is a big deal. DC offers free PK and surrounding counties do not-- that is HUGE incentive to cheat. One of the people profiled in that daily caller is a friend of mine. She (a PG county resident) said honestly that's what everyone she knows in her circle does and they don't (or didn't) consider it to be a big deal. Generations of her family lived or still live in DC and[b] using their addresses is just very common [\b], she told me.

I still don't get how you can just "use another address" without jumping through a lot of hoops (putting bills and cars registered in the other address in your name, for example).

It would take me about 8 seconds to log in and change the address for my pay stubs.

And then of course, all correspondence from school would go to the fake address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, this is a big deal. DC offers free PK and surrounding counties do not-- that is HUGE incentive to cheat. One of the people profiled in that daily caller is a friend of mine. She (a PG county resident) said honestly that's what everyone she knows in her circle does and they don't (or didn't) consider it to be a big deal. Generations of her family lived or still live in DC and[b] using their addresses is just very common [\b], she told me.

I still don't get how you can just "use another address" without jumping through a lot of hoops (putting bills and cars registered in the other address in your name, for example).

It would take me about 8 seconds to log in and change the address for my pay stubs.

And then of course, all correspondence from school would go to the fake address.

How much correspondence do you get mailed to you? We get almost none- it's all through email and flyers sent home in folders. Everything through the mail is redundant anyhow.