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Op, you can change your behavior - to protect yourself - a lot more than what you are doing.
You should see her on neutral turf. That way you have control over who leaves and who stays, and for how long. She should not be staying at your home. It is completely odd of you to be concerned about her opinion of you if you know she's (sick, evil, an abuser) "Cutting her out of your life" just shows you like drama. Stop with ramping-up the drama. Instead, send a Mother's Day card & see her a few visits a year that you can control. Move-on with your life. Stop wishing Mommy loved you. |
This. In my culture you do not cut off relatives, you just don't. You limit contact. It's shocking how people will immediately cut off a grandparent from their lives and their children's lives for ridiculous reasons. |
Yawn. Only sanctimonious assholes make such blanket statements. If your father raped your children, you wouldn't call the police and cut him off? It's a mark of low intelligence that you cannot imagine scenarios outside your narrow experience that justify proceeding differently than you have had to in your life. |
You would be guessing incorrectly! No issues at home- everything is actually just fine. Mine is just a perspective built from watching this age group manage life as adults. I know there are many exceptions, of course, because I work with many who are doing pretty well, but by far, this estrangement thing is celebrated currently-almost as if it is an empowerment message. One too many after school specials? It is truly unfortunate, and this thread clearly defines a lot of it. Pay attention to the part about how OP feels about her mother as a grandmother. She says her mother is a good grandmother, yet, because she is mad at her, she will consider cutting her off from the family. Think about it. This is huge- her children will be denied grandparents, and the message they get is that this is how to solve conflicts. It's already clear that she considers blow ups normal in relating to each other, ( they aren't), and I suspect that because she didn't accuse Mom of starting the blow ups, it is implied that she thinks it is normal for her ( self) to behave that way. It was only until she got a bad review of her whatever behavior from her SIL, ( which ironically she is doing HERE about her Mom) that she decided she doesn't want to see her again. She's, (and I mean this in a descriptive way- not trying to be harsh) quite immature. Let's fast forward 20 years to see if her then adult children are writing about their mother's sketchy approach to relationships. (" Well, she cut off her mother for a fight they had when we were young.") Maybe it is time that this family works to resolve family and relationship differences- stop the cycle that permeates through generations. For the rest of you, consider reading about the ridiculous amount of estrangement and immature approaches to being an adult child at the same time as being a parent -for those in their 20s and 30s. It's staggering. Your young children are not pawns to use when you get pissed off. If your parents are mentally ill with no recourse, if there has been sexual abuse, if they get into drunken rages, if they hit....of course this is another matter. That's not what this is. OP: Try this: Mom- I heard from Larla that you thought I was rude to you last week. I am hurt that you would discuss this with Larla and not me, but since I don't feel that I was rude, can you tell me why you thought that? OR You can write your vague case on an anonymous online forum- and pick out the responses that you like from other folks who have cut off their parents, even though you don't know them / vice versa, to validate your actions- and don't forget to denigrate all who disagree with you to further bolster your intended actions. Signed, Nope, My Kids Have Not Ousted Me At All, We're All Good, But I'm Sick of This Generation's Whining And I'm Worried About The Next Generation. (I could put that into a hashtag if you would like...) |
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I nearly cut off my mother 4 years ago, and DH persuaded me not to, even though he was included in her abuse. Fast forward to tonight: I threw a surprise birthday dinner for my mother. My children saw me slave away in the kitchen and saw my mother happy and fulfilled. My parents are visiting the area (staying at a hotel) and the visit is going well. Why? Because I IGNORE ALL HER MEAN-SPIRITED, BIGOTED MORONIC AND INSANE comments and questions. The only ones I don't ignore are the racist ones, because I don't want the kids thinking it's OK to talk like that. For the rest, they already know she's weird. Here's what I learned: never stay in her house, her anxiety goes through the roof and she becomes extremely abusive. Hotel when she visits me. Always plan appropriate outings so she doesn't have the energy to snoop and criticize everything about my house or myself or my children or my husband. |
| OP here. Dear crazy lady who keeps writing long posts on my thread pretending to know my situation, please find some other way to spend your time. I have no reason to go into the gory details of my childhood abuse for your amusement. Also, I am not a millennial. |
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I was a bitch to my mom as a teen and we fought constantly, and it was not all one-sided. She definitely did/said some things she should not have done/said. I fully planned to cut her off as soon as I got out of the house.
But then she died suddenly, and--suddenly--the whole situation/our relationship slammed into a new, horrific perspective. Nobody is perfect, and certainly my mom was not, and no relationship is perfect; when you love someone who is thisclose to you, like your mom, the imperfections mean more to you than they would from someone else. But I will never, ever get a chance to TRY to have a good relationship with her now, and there has been an aching void where she (or even our fights) should be, all my adult life. If I could have my mom back, I would work on the situation, no matter what. You will feel differently when your mom is no longer with you. I promise. (and I will never, ever forgive myself for being such a bitch to my mom, and for not trying to forge a good relationship when I had the chance). |
+1 million Cut my father off for sexually abusing me. There is nothing wrong with me in this scenario. Only him. JHC. |
OP is not considering cutting her mother off for one fight. People standing up for themselves in the face of abuse is not "whining," it's taking care of themselves emotionally. Sorry this wasn't seen as a viable option for earlier generations. |
Having an argument is not abuse. Come on. |
Also, you can tell from OP's comments and overall attitude that's she's no angel. |
She stated she had experienced childhood physical and emotional abuse. |
Wow! So sorry you have to deal with that. You show tremendous strength and resilience. Best wishes to you! |
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The person who said family members like this are vampires is dead on. My mother cut me off over not giving her more money. She also cut off my kid completely and brutally. Luckily my daughter was young enough that she forgot her. Recently she tried to reengage and I ignored her. As far as I'm concerned the crazy abusive bitch is my sister's problem.
It hurt for awhile but overall it is so much better. She was a draining person to have contact with and would fly off the handle and say awful things. She once told me she hoped I got cancer! Why go back to dreeding calls and visits waiting for her to act like a psycho? She's done this with other family members as well....despite being from a different culture. |
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I've posted here before about my psychopathic stalker of a mother.
There will always be people who denigrate people who survive and cut out abusive, toxic relatives. They're in families, enabling the abusers in the name of peace. They're on line, sometimes ignorant and sanctimonious because they have no idea and sometimes defensive because they count on relatives' ignoring their abuse. There will always be people who get it or at least sympathize. I'm in no position to judge OP. Neither is anyone else. Writing style or choice of examples cannot convey a full family dynamic. My two pieces of advice are: (1) OP, imagine what it would be like to have no family of origin thanksgiving, Christmas, or other holidays forever. Is that what you want? Do a cost benefit. Include what her presence does to your family. And (2) bystanders, consider this: every person who cuts out a parent had to go through the above thought process at some point. Nobody wants to be an orphan. It takes a lot. If you can't imagine making that decision, chances are it's because you can't imagine what the person went through. In my case, my only regret was not cutting her out as soon as I moved out of her home. She stole emotional resources that rightly belonged to me and to the decent people in my life. |