Trump: "Our nation stands together in solidarity with the members of Orlando’s LGBT community."
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Anonymous
Oh. Sort of like Hillary Clinton, or perhaps Barack "I was against gay marriage until it was politically OK for me to be for gay marriage" Obama. |
Anonymous
This sums up what is wrong with the current debate around this horrible tragedy. You are using this to score political points rather than seeing this as a crime against a group that has been long victimized in this country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States In 2014, the FBI reported that 20.8% of hate crimes reported to police in 2013 were founded on perceived sexual orientation. 61% of those attacks were against gay men.[2] Additionally, 0.5% of all hate crimes were based on perceived gender identity. In 2004, the FBI reported that 14% of hate crimes due to perceived sexual orientation were against lesbians, 2% against heterosexuals and 1% against bisexuals.[3] The FBI reported that for 2006, hate crimes against gays increased from 14% to 16% in 2005, as percentage of total documented hate crimes across the U.S.[4] The 2006 annual report, released on November 19, 2007, also said that hate crimes based on sexual orientation are the third most common type, behind race and religion.[4] In 2008, 17.6% of hate crimes were based on the victim's perceived sexual orientation. Of those crimes, 72.23% were violent in nature. 4,704 crimes were committed due to racial bias and 1,617 were committed due to sexual orientation. Of these, only one murder and one forcible rape were committed due to racial bias, whereas five murders and six rapes were committed based on sexual orientation.[5] Santa Clara County Deputy District Attorney (DDA) Jay Boyarsky attributed a surge in anti-gay hate crimes, from 3 in 2007 to 14 in 2008, to controversy over Proposition 8. However, the DDA cautioned against reading too much from small statistical samples, pointing out that the vast majority of hate incidents do not get referred to the District Attorney's office.[6] In 2011, the FBI reported 1,572 hate crime victims targeted based on a sexual orientation bias, making up 20.4% of the total hate crimes for that year. Of the total victims, 56.7% were targeted based on anti-male homosexual bias, 29.6% were targeted based on anti-homosexual bias, and 11.1% were targeted based on anti-female homosexual bias |
Anonymous
I asked you to cite an instance of conservatives committed a mass shooting or killing of gays. You can't - thanks for proving my point. We know he was last registered as a Democrat http://www.snopes.com/orlando-shooter-was-democrat/ While Snopes does say we don't know his affiliation at the time of the shooting, he never changed it so there's no reason to believe he changed. |
Anonymous
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To add, Prop 8 was overwhelmingly voted down by minorities.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html |
Anonymous
| Despite what the liberal crowd is being told by their puppet masters, conservatives don't wish death on LGBT people. |
Anonymous
His political affiliation means nothing. You continuing to go down this path of questioning proves my point that you don't care about the discrimination and hate crimes that are committed against the LGBTQ community, but rather only about scoring political points because this guy was a registered democrat who supported ISIS. The LGBTQ community is under constant attack. This was a hate crime. |
Anonymous
Ummm...no you're incorrect. Since the beginning the left has tried - in vein I might add - to tie this to Republicans, Trump, conservatives. Sorry, but the baseless accusations don't match up. More to the point - no one can say Trump is bigoted towards gays. His answer to bathroomgate proves that. Third, as a former military member I can say people have been serving with gays for a while and we all knew it. Most ex-Military like Trump and don't care where you like to stick what into who. No one really cares. The ones who do are more in the Never Trump movement because they hate his open position on gays |
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http://wonkette.com/602928/lets-explore-the-ways-donald-j-trump-is-a-great-friend-to-the-lgbt-community
So apparently Donald Trump is only a friend to the LGBT community when he believes doing so happens to coincide with his anti-Muslim rhetoric! Good to know! Read more at http://wonkette.com/602928/lets-explore-the-ways-donald-j-trump-is-a-great-friend-to-the-lgbt-community#fo4uQQS03ZADSCOL.99 |
Anonymous
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Right now I bet your typical right wing, anti-lgbt is all about supporting the lqbt community after pulse.
It seems that trump can reach out and get those people to listen. Maybe he is the uniter? |
Anonymous
Trump is ex-military? Do you mean he went to a military high school? I didn't think that counted, but as ex-military, I suppose you can count it if you want. No, I don't think Trump is any more anti-gay than he is anti-women, anti-everyone. |
Anonymous
Your reading comprehension sucks. Most like Trump. Nice deflection attempt |
Anonymous
Wonkette is a known liberal attack blogger. Her claim to fame is writing a story about an intern who used to sleep with politicians. Her opinions are baseless and unreliable |
Anonymous
Yes, I did misread your post. My apologies. Since conservative includes evangelicals, it tends to includes people who are anti-gay. Not all conservatives are, obviously, but it is one of their accepted positions. As is being pro-life. This is not deflection, it's just a statement of fact. As I said, I don't think Trump is anti-gay (I don't think he is conservative either, or even Republican). |
Anonymous
I believe that PP was using sarcasm. |
Anonymous
She is a liberal attack blogger, however that doesn't make her reporting baseless and unreliable. |