GT Letter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to a teacher we know, new criteria for compacted math 3rd grade selection is "Is the child likely to succeed in 4th grade compacted math?"

I actually believe this may be not a bad one...
My kid is finishing 5th grade in compacted now. I had to fight, really fight school to put my child in compacted in 4th. Child was missing 1 point on stupid screening.
School eventually put child in, but said that they will monitor my child closely...
Last week my child got 251 on Map-M, also got ES in math as quarter grade last quarter... So much for not making into that "very challenging" and in my opinion "very lame" compacted math originally...
All kids should have opportunity to learn. Compacted math is not fast math... It is Common Core mess...

I don't know what you mean by CM is not "fast math" but it is definitely fast paced. It has to be in order to get 3 yrs worth of math into 2 yrs. It is fast paced, and some kids do struggle with the pace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, I understand your disappointment. It is a form letter. The company that makes these tests can provide a very detailed analysis. If MCPS receives it, they opt not to share with parents. Frustrating,

We got the letter and scores today, and it is so frustrating to know that the Inview can provide a more detailed analysis and that all we get is the percentiles on the different sections. I know it doesn't really matter, but I found this brochure showing all the possible information (https://www.neisd.net/test/documents/2ndGradeInViewBrochure2010.pdf) and I would love to know my kid's "Cognitive Skills Index" or even to know how the age-adjusted percentile (which I think is what MCPS sends us) compares to the grade-level percentile, since my kid has a late-August birthday and presumably gets a score boost from that. Why doesn't MCPS share? I'm a data-driven person, and this bugs me.

[Anonymous]

16:08 if MCPS actually pays for the data you should be able to get it under FERPA. Not clear that they pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:08 if MCPS actually pays for the data you should be able to get it under FERPA. Not clear that they pay for it.

Good point. I assumed that getting the test and having it scored is the hard /costly part, and then getting the percentiles is just a matter of a (proprietary) conversion/normed chart, but maybe mcps doesn't pay for that. Not sure I will follow up to ask, but maybe I will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, I understand your disappointment. It is a form letter. The company that makes these tests can provide a very detailed analysis. If MCPS receives it, they opt not to share with parents. Frustrating,

We got the letter and scores today, and it is so frustrating to know that the Inview can provide a more detailed analysis and that all we get is the percentiles on the different sections. I know it doesn't really matter, but I found this brochure showing all the possible information (https://www.neisd.net/test/documents/2ndGradeInViewBrochure2010.pdf) and I would love to know my kid's "Cognitive Skills Index" or even to know how the age-adjusted percentile (which I think is what MCPS sends us) compares to the grade-level percentile, since my kid has a late-August birthday and presumably gets a score boost from that. Why doesn't MCPS share? I'm a data-driven person, and this bugs me.

I don't think Inview gives a score boost for age. Cogat I think does.

http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/tests.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, I understand your disappointment. It is a form letter. The company that makes these tests can provide a very detailed analysis. If MCPS receives it, they opt not to share with parents. Frustrating,

We got the letter and scores today, and it is so frustrating to know that the Inview can provide a more detailed analysis and that all we get is the percentiles on the different sections. I know it doesn't really matter, but I found this brochure showing all the possible information (https://www.neisd.net/test/documents/2ndGradeInViewBrochure2010.pdf) and I would love to know my kid's "Cognitive Skills Index" or even to know how the age-adjusted percentile (which I think is what MCPS sends us) compares to the grade-level percentile, since my kid has a late-August birthday and presumably gets a score boost from that. Why doesn't MCPS share? I'm a data-driven person, and this bugs me.

I don't think Inview gives a score boost for age. Cogat I think does.

http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/tests.htm

A young kid's boost is an old kid's penalty.

[Anonymous]

Did everyone receive their letter in the mail? My child is at Ritchie Park and nothing has been received yet.

[Anonymous]

We are at potomac and haven't gotten anything yet either.

[Anonymous]

Mine came in my kid's backpack, so it doesn't seem that they were centrally mailed. I wouldn't be surprised if some schools haven't sent them home yet.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure ours will come home after school lets out since parents at our school are a total nightmare. Send after school lets out and then parents can't bother the office or the teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:16:08 if MCPS actually pays for the data you should be able to get it under FERPA. Not clear that they pay for it.

This is 16:08 again. I decided to e-mail the Office of Shared Accountability to ask if MCPS had the additional information and if it was part of my child's educational record that I could access. The response I got was that MCPS uses the national age-normed percentile as the Inview data point for students, and that piece of information is shared with the schools and with the parents. It also said that MCPS doesn't use or work with the other pieces of information available from Inview, so those aren't included in the parent letter. Which doesn't really answer my question about whether MCPS has the info and if I could access it; my guess is that they do have it but don't want to share it because parents could misinterpret and try to use it to their advantage in requesting services or placements. I don't think I'll push the point, but I still find it annoying, since I'm honestly curious about it and dislike when other people have information about me/my family that I don't have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did everyone receive their letter in the mail? My child is at Ritchie Park and nothing has been received yet.

Rock Creek Valley--no letter yet.

[Anonymous]

Focus school. We got ours a week ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:08 if MCPS actually pays for the data you should be able to get it under FERPA. Not clear that they pay for it.

This is 16:08 again. I decided to e-mail the Office of Shared Accountability to ask if MCPS had the additional information and if it was part of my child's educational record that I could access. The response I got was that MCPS uses the national age-normed percentile as the Inview data point for students, and that piece of information is shared with the schools and with the parents. It also said that MCPS doesn't use or work with the other pieces of information available from Inview, so those aren't included in the parent letter. Which doesn't really answer my question about whether MCPS has the info and if I could access it; my guess is that they do have it but don't want to share it because parents could misinterpret and try to use it to their advantage in requesting services or placements. I don't think I'll push the point, but I still find it annoying, since I'm honestly curious about it and dislike when other people have information about me/my family that I don't have.

Thanks 16:08. Sounds like if you really want to know whether they have it, you will have to call them. I hate it when they don't give a straight answer. I would be irritated too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:16:08 if MCPS actually pays for the data you should be able to get it under FERPA. Not clear that they pay for it.

This is 16:08 again. I decided to e-mail the Office of Shared Accountability to ask if MCPS had the additional information and if it was part of my child's educational record that I could access. The response I got was that MCPS uses the national age-normed percentile as the Inview data point for students, and that piece of information is shared with the schools and with the parents. It also said that MCPS doesn't use or work with the other pieces of information available from Inview, so those aren't included in the parent letter. Which doesn't really answer my question about whether MCPS has the info and if I could access it; my guess is that they do have it but don't want to share it because parents could misinterpret and try to use it to their advantage in requesting services or placements. I don't think I'll push the point, but I still find it annoying, since I'm honestly curious about it and dislike when other people have information about me/my family that I don't have.

Thanks 16:08. Sounds like if you really want to know whether they have it, you will have to call them. I hate it when they don't give a straight answer. I would be irritated too.

What does it mean that they use aged norm percentile? Just got our letter and am trying to understand what the percentiles mean. Do you mean that my child was compared to others her exact age?