Attack on GDS student today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shame on you for inferring that students at Wilson are "shadier." Racist much?

Disgusting and ignorant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the neighborhood they want to move their lower school to??

m

Yes but it's a very nice, safe neighbirhood. AU Park. The probem is the nearby DCPS Wilson high school and the close by Metro Station in Tenleytown. Both bring in a shadier element.

Shadier? Seriously? Do you mean African-American students? Metro commuters?

They may be referring to the 6 Wilson students arrested and eye witness accounts of them beating a man or the student arrested for brining a gun to school last year at Wilson. The charges have been dropped but that doesn't change what the eye witness say they saw. I do not know of any GDS students that have been arrested to my knowledge. This has nothing to do with race. All of these schools private and public are very diverse (which I think is a good thing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the neighborhood they want to move their lower school to??

m

Yes but it's a very nice, safe neighbirhood. AU Park. The probem is the nearby DCPS Wilson high school and the close by Metro Station in Tenleytown. Both bring in a shadier element.

Shadier? Seriously? Do you mean African-American students? Metro commuters?

They may be referring to the 6 Wilson students arrested and eye witness accounts of them beating a man or the student arrested for brining a gun to school last year at Wilson. The charges have been dropped but that doesn't change what the eye witness say they saw. I do not know of any GDS students that have been arrested to my knowledge. This has nothing to do with race. All of these schools private and public are very diverse (which I think is a good thing).

Wouldn't this large number of robberies and stabbings suggest it is not such a safe neighborhood? What you mean is that it is a very affluent neighborhood. That's true. It's also a very pleasant neighborhood. But you can't discount crime just because it isn't being perpetrated by the neighborhood's residents.

The reason I'm harping on this is because people are always going on about crime in other parts of the city, but discounting the crime that happens in Upper NW. We have a problem. City-wide. A million dollar house and $40K a year private school don't make you any safer, apparently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the neighborhood they want to move their lower school to??

m

Yes but it's a very nice, safe neighbirhood. AU Park. The probem is the nearby DCPS Wilson high school and the close by Metro Station in Tenleytown. Both bring in a shadier element.

Shadier? Seriously? Do you mean African-American students? Metro commuters?

By "shadier" I would imagine PP meant "people who rob other people"...that's pretty shady, I'd say.

[Anonymous]

Reread the whole post. A Metro station and a HS are "problems" that bring in "shadier people." You really think that's an inoffensive/benign comment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reread the whole post. A Metro station and a HS are "problems" that bring in "shadier people." You really think that's an inoffensive/benign comment?

Different poster. I do think those are inoffensive. PP did not say the school or metro are the problem, but rather that they attract the problem - i.e., people who rob other people.

I think you're trying to spin up a false accusation of racism, which is a pretty offensive thing to do IMO.

[Anonymous]

Pretty clear that she means poor brown people, who are born to commit crimes you know, as opposed to the nice white people who live in AU Park and look like most of the GDS kids.

Anonymous wrote:Reread the whole post. A Metro station and a HS are "problems" that bring in "shadier people." You really think that's an inoffensive/benign comment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that she means poor brown people, who are born to commit crimes you know, as opposed to the nice white people who live in AU Park and look like most of the GDS kids.

Anonymous wrote:Reread the whole post. A Metro station and a HS are "problems" that bring in "shadier people." You really think that's an inoffensive/benign comment?

Where do you get that from the quote?

If PP had instead written "The probem is the nearby DCPS Wilson high school and the close by Metro Station in Tenleytown. Both bring in some people who rob other people," would you still view it as offensive?

In other words, is your objection to the word "shady," or is it to the idea that a Metro stop and a high school are two factors that tend to correlate to more street crime?

Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous]

It's offensive in part because there's no evidence that the muggers had any connection with Wilson or the Metro. And your benign reading is disingenuous because the target/attractor was associated with GDS (which was NOT identified as part of the "problem.")

It's one thing to say that in an affluent and busy part of town with lots of HS kids who are easy marks (and likely to be carrying expensive electronics), there are going to be street crimes. But that's not at all what the other post said or suggested. Its logic was this is a nice neighborhood whose safety is threatened by outsiders who are brought in by public transportation and a public HS. This is why the BUILD A WALL retort was on point.

[Anonymous]

I guess because you know you have the GDS commitment to social justice, you would be "genuinely curious" at the well-grounded assertion that something you believe was haughty or even racist.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty clear that she means poor brown people, who are born to commit crimes you know, as opposed to the nice white people who live in AU Park and look like most of the GDS kids.

Anonymous wrote:Reread the whole post. A Metro station and a HS are "problems" that bring in "shadier people." You really think that's an inoffensive/benign comment?

Where do you get that from the quote?

If PP had instead written "The probem is the nearby DCPS Wilson high school and the close by Metro Station in Tenleytown. Both bring in some people who rob other people," would you still view it as offensive?

In other words, is your objection to the word "shady," or is it to the idea that a Metro stop and a high school are two factors that tend to correlate to more street crime?

Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's offensive in part because there's no evidence that the muggers had any connection with Wilson or the Metro. And your benign reading is disingenuous because the target/attractor was associated with GDS (which was NOT identified as part of the "problem.")

It's one thing to say that in an affluent and busy part of town with lots of HS kids who are easy marks (and likely to be carrying expensive electronics), there are going to be street crimes. But that's not at all what the other post said or suggested. Its logic was this is a nice neighborhood whose safety is threatened by outsiders who are brought in by public transportation and a public HS. This is why the BUILD A WALL retort was on point.

Build-a-wall commenter here. Above is exactly what I was trying to say. None of the NW independent schools need to look very far to find examples of criminal or "shady" behavior within their ranks. Pinning this issue on the brown children at Wilson (even in coded language) is the height of hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess because you know you have the GDS commitment to social justice, you would be "genuinely curious" at the well-grounded assertion that something you believe was haughty or even racist.

1. Stuff your snarky put-down up your ass.
2. I don't have any connection to GDS.
3. If you want to accomplish anything productive, try answering the question instead of attacking.

I asked a genuine question. Why don't you try a genuine answer?

[Anonymous]

Supposedly non-GDS connected PP's question has been answered repeatedly, though her use of "shady" language has not yet been remarked upon.

For the PP above her, you only have to look a few entries down on DCUM for shadiness at the highest level of DC privates:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/552518.page

[Anonymous]

Re "shady"

http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/11/racially-coded-phrases-black-people/

"Genuinely curious" people would typically google this sort of thing for themselves, but since you asked...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on you for inferring that students at Wilson are "shadier." Racist much?

Ah, you went there, not me. Lots of white kids, hispanic kids, blacks kids and kids of mixed "race" at Wilson. I was thinking only of the fact that Wilson has metal detectors and kids who have been arrested for assault - that is the shady part. When you have to worry about teenagers, of any skin color or ethnicity or economic background, carrying guns or knives or assaulting others on the metro, then you are clearly dealing with a shadier type of person, one who may be looking to rob, steal, or harm others. Also, the metro allows easier access and exit from the area for anyone to come to the area and commit crime.

Shockingly enough GDS has kids who have been in trouble with the law too. It has nothing to do with Wilson but with an increase of crime in the neighborhood. Kids are being targeted (both public and private) because the criminal element (one caught and description of others being sought all point to older criminals who don't live in the neighborhood) knows these kids have phones and probably some cash on them. Your shadier type of person can travel by car, bike, foot, bus, metro, etc. In fact, considering metro has cameras it is LESS likely due to the proximity of metro (or Wilson) for that matter. Metal detectors at Wilson has nothing to do with is at all.

Actually I live in the neighborhood and some Wilson students are acknowledged by all parties to be involved in petty nuisance behavior up to and including more serious documented crimes like fights and stabbings..so its fair to say they can be a part of Tenleytown crime. The other problem is people who drive or metro in looking for victims ans then rapidly move out. We need stronger juvenile justice in DC (all aspects of the system including follow up), patrolling and cameras. The High Schools should collaborate with the neighborhood and police as well, not turn a blind eye r put up a smokescreen. I would expect the same of GDS or Sidwell as good neighbors.