Fairness (or lack of) in Rec Baseball Playing Time

Anonymous
Oh the irony. Imagine what would happen if we treated everyone in school fairly. The same people who whine and complain about AAP//Honors/whatever for your precious snowflake

Guess what your snowflake sucks at sports shouldn't they be studying for the next AAP test or TJ admissions :-p

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is the problem with parent coached baseball.

It's not just parents who want to win. Our league has a number of non-parents who coach Majors (they just love to coach) and they still want to win and will play the kids who play well. Not saying it's right, but it's how it works.
Anonymous
Vienna Little League, Major League rules: Each player must play at least nine defensive outs and bat at least once. If a player isn't able to do that (say, a game gets called after four innings), he must start the next game and play nine outs and one at-bat.

Somehow, despite this horrific impingement of coaches' competitive nature, Madison continues to have strong baseball teams and even won the state championship last year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh the irony. Imagine what would happen if we treated everyone in school fairly. The same people who whine and complain about AAP//Honors/whatever for your precious snowflake

Guess what your snowflake sucks at sports shouldn't they be studying for the next AAP test or TJ admissions :-p



The same politics abound in the AAP/GT system as we find in travel sports.

Parents that scream the loudest, get what they want.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh the irony. Imagine what would happen if we treated everyone in school fairly. The same people who whine and complain about AAP//Honors/whatever for your precious snowflake

Guess what your snowflake sucks at sports shouldn't they be studying for the next AAP test or TJ admissions :-p



I really don't get this. Isn't the entire point of REC baseball for kids who just want to play and have fun? All of the other tremendous players should be doing travel. The happiest day of my life was when my 12yo quit baseball. It was soul crushing. Mainly because we refused to attach our lips to someone's ass. Even our friends turned into complete asshats when it came to baseball. Soccer not so much, they seem to get the idea of REC sports.
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches can have huge egos. They want to win. They smell victory, or a winning season, and lose sight that this is a rec league where player development (development of every player) should be the main focus.


Wrong. Development needs to focus on the best prospects. The kids who have talent and work really hard.

If you want your clearly untalented kid to play, then COACH. I've only got so many bullets in my arm for BP. You better believe I use them first on my kid, then the assistant coach's kid, then the other kids in order of talent. I can't tell you how mad I get when I call a kid in from RF for his two swings, and he's just putting on his helmet when the previous kid finishes his two swings.

Then Mommy and Mommy's "good female friend" get mad when young Ashton only plays two innings in RF. Yeah, okay. If you can't coach, get your sperm donor or hire sone college kid. Look in the mirror.


Are you the asshole who posted earlier about wanted to exclude kids from rec basketball? Why are you even coaching rec sports?


I thought he was the one ranting about how cancelling Coach Pitch softball because of rain guarantees a losing HS season in 10 years.


Yeah, I'm the one who's saying we have to stop raising wusses.


So, your strategy for raising wusses, is to blame other people for your lack of skills, and demand that the taxpayer foot the bill for the fields you want to ruin?

Is the idea that you act like such a wuss that your kid can't help but to rebel and do the opposite?
Anonymous
For all you complainers, start a team. You can play your kid, in whatever position you want. There are never enough coaches.
Anonymous
and bat at least once


why is THAT acceptable? Once?
It's REC League!
Shame on them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches can have huge egos. They want to win. They smell victory, or a winning season, and lose sight that this is a rec league where player development (development of every player) should be the main focus.


Wrong. Development needs to focus on the best prospects. The kids who have talent and work really hard.

If you want your clearly untalented kid to play, then COACH. I've only got so many bullets in my arm for BP. You better believe I use them first on my kid, then the assistant coach's kid, then the other kids in order of talent. I can't tell you how mad I get when I call a kid in from RF for his two swings, and he's just putting on his helmet when the previous kid finishes his two swings.

Then Mommy and Mommy's "good female friend" get mad when young Ashton only plays two innings in RF. Yeah, okay. If you can't coach, get your sperm donor or hire sone college kid. Look in the mirror.


Are you the asshole who posted earlier about wanted to exclude kids from rec basketball? Why are you even coaching rec sports?


That asshole might be a woman, believe it if not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For all you complainers, start a team. You can play your kid, in whatever position you want. There are never enough coaches.


I coached rec. my kid was one of the best players . I never played her more than others. It's rec.
You don't coach rec to play your kid all the time or any other kid all the time.
That makes you the devil.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Then we should just kill baseball and have kids play a real sport.


+100
Ha! Hard to understand how kids even get fit playing baseball. Right, they don't. Even the ones who actually get play time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
and bat at least once


why is THAT acceptable? Once?
It's REC League!
Shame on them


She said Majors.

Majors is not a rec league.

Majors is placement by tryout only and is the level that eventually competes at state and maybe beyond to the LL World Series.
Anonymous
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and bat at least once


why is THAT acceptable? Once?
It's REC League!
Shame on them


She said Majors.

Majors is not a rec league.

Majors is placement by tryout only and is the level that eventually competes at state and maybe beyond to the LL World Series.


Not quite. Teams that compete in state and the LLWS are All-Star teams.

And even in the LLWS, all players on the roster must play. See the rules: http://www.littleleaguetoolkit.org/Assets/forms_pubs/tournaments/2015/baseball-rules.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
and bat at least once


why is THAT acceptable? Once?
It's REC League!
Shame on them


She said Majors.

Majors is not a rec league.

Majors is placement by tryout only and is the level that eventually competes at state and maybe beyond to the LL World Series.


Not quite. Teams that compete in state and the LLWS are All-Star teams.

And even in the LLWS, all players on the roster must play. See the rules: http://www.littleleaguetoolkit.org/Assets/forms_pubs/tournaments/2015/baseball-rules.pdf




Yeah, but kids on those teams don't suck. In fact, they have usually managed to play travel and rec for that season, with the specific intent of being on that roster for the run at the LLWS. "Having" to play those kids isn't really a problem.
Anonymous
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and bat at least once


why is THAT acceptable? Once?
It's REC League!
Shame on them


She said Majors.

Majors is not a rec league.

Majors is placement by tryout only and is the level that eventually competes at state and maybe beyond to the LL World Series.


Not quite. Teams that compete in state and the LLWS are All-Star teams.

And even in the LLWS, all players on the roster must play. See the rules: http://www.littleleaguetoolkit.org/Assets/forms_pubs/tournaments/2015/baseball-rules.pdf




Yeah, but kids on those teams don't suck. In fact, they have usually managed to play travel and rec for that season, with the specific intent of being on that roster for the run at the LLWS. "Having" to play those kids isn't really a problem.


OK ... so then why is it a problem in Majors, whose teams are neither travel teams nor LLWS-eligible teams?

Look, Little League has an "everyone plays" tradition. If you don't like it, take your kid away from his friends and everything else the Little League experience has to offer, then herd him onto a travel team where he can go out of town all the time and maybe not play. Then kid yourself that this travel team is automatically light-years ahead of Little League just because people pay and travel extra. Just don't be shocked at high school tryouts when the kids from the "everybody plays" Little League team turn out not to have been irreparably harmed by the experience.
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