CMI expanding?

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After care should have some kind of sliding scale income adjustment in those cases. I would think.

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Anonymous wrote:77 kids over the next 10 years? Hardly anything to get your panties in a bunch over people.

Agree. But the very low class sizes were a differentiator and source of pride for many enrolled (and prospective) families. Not surprised this shift is sparking discussion and probably some snark here from those who are jealous or thought it was not sustainable.

Agree, but going from 17 to 18 in ECE and going from 18 to 20 is really not much to get dramatic about (to pay for all the things CMI says they do).

I see people snark at MV when they expanded, they snarked at YY when they raised prices to pay for all their aftercare and now they snark at CMI.

I tell you what, pay charter schools equal per student funding and then we won't have to go through this every third/fourth year when a school finds its perm location.

Or is it just me having lived through this for 20 years of charter schools?

Maybe CM should raise aftercare prices instead. YY has 16 kids in ECE and 18 kids per classroom in k-5.

Our aftercare is already extraordinarily expensive.

How much does it cost? I never got that answer at the open house? Althouh anythign is cheaper than the current 1900/month I pay my nanny.

It is on the website http://www.creativemindspcs.org/After%20School%20Registration%20Form%20Updated%20October%202015.docx

thanks! That still seems like a steal to me. Aren't people used to paying like 5 times that much for all day child care. I don't know why folks complain about $360 a month when that barely coverss a week of child care in DC.

Just because people budget for daycare for a few
Years doesn't mean they have an extra $350-400 to spend for another 10+ years.

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Anonymous wrote:77 kids over the next 10 years? Hardly anything to get your panties in a bunch over people.

Agree. But the very low class sizes were a differentiator and source of pride for many enrolled (and prospective) families. Not surprised this shift is sparking discussion and probably some snark here from those who are jealous or thought it was not sustainable.

Agree, but going from 17 to 18 in ECE and going from 18 to 20 is really not much to get dramatic about (to pay for all the things CMI says they do).

I see people snark at MV when they expanded, they snarked at YY when they raised prices to pay for all their aftercare and now they snark at CMI.

I tell you what, pay charter schools equal per student funding and then we won't have to go through this every third/fourth year when a school finds its perm location.

Or is it just me having lived through this for 20 years of charter schools?

Maybe CM should raise aftercare prices instead. YY has 16 kids in ECE and 18 kids per classroom in k-5.

Our aftercare is already extraordinarily expensive.

How much does it cost? I never got that answer at the open house? Althouh anythign is cheaper than the current 1900/month I pay my nanny.

It is on the website http://www.creativemindspcs.org/After%20School%20Registration%20Form%20Updated%20October%202015.docx

thanks! That still seems like a steal to me. Aren't people used to paying like 5 times that much for all day child care. I don't know why folks complain about $360 a month when that barely coverss a week of child care in DC.

Just because people budget for daycare for a few
Years doesn't mean they have an extra $350-400 to spend for another 10+ years.

but if they lived in MD or VA they would be on the hook for two extra years of full time childcare so probably another 20k at least for those additional two years, so overall still a bargain in DC.

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but if they lived in MD or VA they would be on the hook for two extra years of full time childcare so probably another 20k at least for those additional two years, so overall still a bargain in DC.

You keep arguing about it from your perspective, and your analysis is spot on for people like you and me, who can make those choices. But you miss the bigger picture for a city-wide public school. I think it would help you to consider it from the perspective of the majority of DC residents, who don't have the option of just moving to MD or VA, or shelling out a few more bucks for a nice aftercare.

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but if they lived in MD or VA they would be on the hook for two extra years of full time childcare so probably another 20k at least for those additional two years, so overall still a bargain in DC.

You keep arguing about it from your perspective, and your analysis is spot on for people like you and me, who can make those choices. But you miss the bigger picture for a city-wide public school. I think it would help you to consider it from the perspective of the majority of DC residents, who don't have the option of just moving to MD or VA, or shelling out a few more bucks for a nice aftercare.

+1. Also more and more counties are starting all day pk4. Also, my friends in MD pay almost half of what I pay in DC. This really should be a separate thread (there have already been dozens) as CMI actually has decent costs (especially with a shorter option for those that can alter work schedules) compared to other schools.

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but if they lived in MD or VA they would be on the hook for two extra years of full time childcare so probably another 20k at least for those additional two years, so overall still a bargain in DC.

You keep arguing about it from your perspective, and your analysis is spot on for people like you and me, who can make those choices. But you miss the bigger picture for a city-wide public school. I think it would help you to consider it from the perspective of the majority of DC residents, who don't have the option of just moving to MD or VA, or shelling out a few more bucks for a nice aftercare.

CMI aftercare is expensive (IMO), but not more so than a lot of the charter schools. And, for those who qualify for free or reduced meals, there is a lower price.

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I think it is cool that CMI has a cheaper option if you pick up by 4:45. That is very valuable.

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Anonymous wrote:77 kids over the next 10 years? Hardly anything to get your panties in a bunch over people.

Agree. But the very low class sizes were a differentiator and source of pride for many enrolled (and prospective) families. Not surprised this shift is sparking discussion and probably some snark here from those who are jealous or thought it was not sustainable.

Agree, but going from 17 to 18 in ECE and going from 18 to 20 is really not much to get dramatic about (to pay for all the things CMI says they do).

I see people snark at MV when they expanded, they snarked at YY when they raised prices to pay for all their aftercare and now they snark at CMI.

I tell you what, pay charter schools equal per student funding and then we won't have to go through this every third/fourth year when a school finds its perm location.

Or is it just me having lived through this for 20 years of charter schools?

Maybe CM should raise aftercare prices instead. YY has 16 kids in ECE and 18 kids per classroom in k-5.

Our aftercare is already extraordinarily expensive.

+1. Please, I do not need an aftercare price increase.

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As you can see from the link, CMI offers significant aftercare discounts for families who qualify for free/reduced lunch. I'm sure that families who technically don't qualify for this discount, but have trouble paying, could talk to the school about negotiating rates. In my experience the school cares very much about struggling families.

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Referring to this link: http://www.creativemindspcs.org/After%20School%20Registration%20Form%20Updated%20October%202015.docx

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Anonymous wrote:They are expanding the preschool/prek classes to 18 students and k-8 to 20 kids per class. Still pretty low ratios, imo.

That's a lot smaller than my elementary school classes in the WJ cluster in MCPS, which posters on the Maryland board seem to think is very desirable.

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Anonymous wrote:77 kids over the next 10 years? Hardly anything to get your panties in a bunch over people.

Agree. But the very low class sizes were a differentiator and source of pride for many enrolled (and prospective) families. Not surprised this shift is sparking discussion and probably some snark here from those who are jealous or thought it was not sustainable.

Agree, but going from 17 to 18 in ECE and going from 18 to 20 is really not much to get dramatic about (to pay for all the things CMI says they do).

I see people snark at MV when they expanded, they snarked at YY when they raised prices to pay for all their aftercare and now they snark at CMI.

I tell you what, pay charter schools equal per student funding and then we won't have to go through this every third/fourth year when a school finds its perm location.

Or is it just me having lived through this for 20 years of charter schools?

Maybe CM should raise aftercare prices instead. YY has 16 kids in ECE and 18 kids per classroom in k-5.

Always amazes me when people pull numbers out of their... the air... and don't care whether it's accurate or not.

Please cite your source for these class numbers at YY, because we have kids in both ECE and upper grades and the numbers in both classrooms are larger than you're saying. And as far as I know they always have been. What is your source for the numbers you quote above?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:77 kids over the next 10 years? Hardly anything to get your panties in a bunch over people.

Agree. But the very low class sizes were a differentiator and source of pride for many enrolled (and prospective) families. Not surprised this shift is sparking discussion and probably some snark here from those who are jealous or thought it was not sustainable.

Agree, but going from 17 to 18 in ECE and going from 18 to 20 is really not much to get dramatic about (to pay for all the things CMI says they do).

I see people snark at MV when they expanded, they snarked at YY when they raised prices to pay for all their aftercare and now they snark at CMI.

I tell you what, pay charter schools equal per student funding and then we won't have to go through this every third/fourth year when a school finds its perm location.

Or is it just me having lived through this for 20 years of charter schools?

Maybe CM should raise aftercare prices instead. YY has 16 kids in ECE and 18 kids per classroom in k-5.

Always amazes me when people pull numbers out of their... the air... and don't care whether it's accurate or not.

Please cite your source for these class numbers at YY, because we have kids in both ECE and upper grades and the numbers in both classrooms are larger than you're saying. And as far as I know they always have been. What is your source for the numbers you quote above?

Sorry, not to continue hijacking the thread, but what are you talking about, fellow YY parent? I randomly checked the directories for PK3 (16, 16, 17); K (21, 19, 19, 19); 3rd (17, 16, 17, 17, 16, 15); and 5th (12, 13, 14). The PP was pretty spot on. K and PK4 tend to be the biggest classes, which makes sense since any kids lost to attrition are less and less likely to be replaced each year (and won't be replaced after 2nd).

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Anonymous wrote:They are expanding the preschool/prek classes to 18 students and k-8 to 20 kids per class. Still pretty low ratios, imo.

That's a lot smaller than my elementary school classes in the WJ cluster in MCPS, which posters on the Maryland board seem to think is very desirable.

Most charters discussed on this board are around 18-22 kids per class. CMI's attraction was that they capped at 16. Personally, I don't see much of a difference between 16 and 20 especially with two teachers and usually an aide.

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Anonymous wrote:77 kids over the next 10 years? Hardly anything to get your panties in a bunch over people.

Agree. But the very low class sizes were a differentiator and source of pride for many enrolled (and prospective) families. Not surprised this shift is sparking discussion and probably some snark here from those who are jealous or thought it was not sustainable.

Agree, but going from 17 to 18 in ECE and going from 18 to 20 is really not much to get dramatic about (to pay for all the things CMI says they do).

I see people snark at MV when they expanded, they snarked at YY when they raised prices to pay for all their aftercare and now they snark at CMI.

I tell you what, pay charter schools equal per student funding and then we won't have to go through this every third/fourth year when a school finds its perm location.

Or is it just me having lived through this for 20 years of charter schools?

Maybe CM should raise aftercare prices instead. YY has 16 kids in ECE and 18 kids per classroom in k-5.

Always amazes me when people pull numbers out of their... the air... and don't care whether it's accurate or not.

Please cite your source for these class numbers at YY, because we have kids in both ECE and upper grades and the numbers in both classrooms are larger than you're saying. And as far as I know they always have been. What is your source for the numbers you quote above?

You can count up the number of kids per each classroom in the *class directories* on the family portal.