College students and pot

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Anonymous wrote:Pot will be legal everywhere before your kid turns 30. It's not a big deal. Quite frankly I'd rather see college boys smoke pot than drink - it tones down aggression and probably helps a really driven kid deal with stress. Don't worry about it at all! If you live in DC get yourself some and try it - you'll see that it's no big deal.

Such an ignorant statement. Pot fucks people up. It alters brain chemistry, kills motivatiom and is a gateway drug to more serious addictive substances. I have seen the devestating affects of pot firsthand on two relatives. It is not a gentle drug not to be worried about. It is a big deal and you are perpetuating mistruths.

Pot can have really strong effects on someone who already struggles with depression. For otherwise healthy adults, it shouldn't be a problem.

It's hit-or-miss for anxiety IME.

The bottom line is that you don't know what effect it will have on any one person. You just don't know. It may have no effect on some people and cause others to think evryone is out to get them. For someone to say that pot is harmless and not to worry about it is misguided.

This is true. But it's less harmful than alcohol. And quite possibly less harmful than sugar.

-NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pot will be legal everywhere before your kid turns 30. It's not a big deal. Quite frankly I'd rather see college boys smoke pot than drink - it tones down aggression and probably helps a really driven kid deal with stress. Don't worry about it at all! If you live in DC get yourself some and try it - you'll see that it's no big deal.

Such an ignorant statement. Pot fucks people up. It alters brain chemistry, kills motivatiom and is a gateway drug to more serious addictive substances. I have seen the devestating affects of pot firsthand on two relatives. It is not a gentle drug not to be worried about. It is a big deal and you are perpetuating mistruths.

Two relatives?

Thanks for the anecdotes.

As i just said in another post, you don't know what effect pot will have on any one person. Yes I gave true anecdotes to make the point that pot isn't always the harmles drug it is made out to be. It hsa caused some very devastating consequences to people I know. The person saying it's no big deal doesn't know anyone that has been negatively impacted by pot. Now she knows that to many other people, and I can guaranty you that my 2 relatives are not the only people negatively affected by pot, pot is a very dangerous and life altering substance and is something to worry about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pot will be legal everywhere before your kid turns 30. It's not a big deal. Quite frankly I'd rather see college boys smoke pot than drink - it tones down aggression and probably helps a really driven kid deal with stress. Don't worry about it at all! If you live in DC get yourself some and try it - you'll see that it's no big deal.

Such an ignorant statement. Pot fucks people up. It alters brain chemistry, kills motivatiom and is a gateway drug to more serious addictive substances. I have seen the devestating affects of pot firsthand on two relatives. It is not a gentle drug not to be worried about. It is a big deal and you are perpetuating mistruths.

I and almost all of my friends smoked pot in college. We are all gainfully employed now, most of us very successfully. It certainly didn't fuck any of us up. It made us giggle a lot, and, occasionally, very hungry. If the kid is getting good grades I would not worry about it.

I agree. Almost everyone I knew in college indulged and most are now professionals ranging from a nurse administrator to a few judges. And they are far from being fucked up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's see, the President, the Speaker of the House, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court all smoked pot in college. I don't think it killed their motivation or made them hard drug addicts. I have no idea how often they used pot and I doubt they were daily smokers, but they all used often enough with other people that they couldn't deny it.

There is just no reason for parents to go ballistic about a college student smoking pot. A non-smoker is about as rare as a non-drinker or a virgin. Delaying drug and alcohol use and sexual activity as long as possible is almost always a good thing for our children's health and life chances, but it is not the end of the world. We don't live in a country that obsesses over extreme notions of purity and honor. Leave that to cultures stuck in the last millennium.

Reading DCUM, sometimes I think we do

[Anonymous]

My son was a rare pot smoker in his senior year of high school. I didn't say too much about it as he wasn't a drinker and had decent grades. He received an academic as well as a good character scholarship(35K total/year) to his #1 choice college. He has been so happy there, loves his roommates and courses etc. Well, a few weeks ago he and 2 of his friends were idiots and got caught by the campus police smoking pot on the edge of the campus but still on university grounds. They were all allowed to return to their dorms and I am not sure what is happening to other 2 kids but my son is losing his scholarships this week and we will find out if he will be allowed to remain at the college since he violated the school drug policy which he signed. Without saying too much, this college is very liberal and my husband and I were not expecting such severe sanctions for a first-time offense. I guess we're the idiots. Just posting this cautionary tale in case you might b inclined to warn your own kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's see, the President, the Speaker of the House, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court all smoked pot in college. I don't think it killed their motivation or made them hard drug addicts. I have no idea how often they used pot and I doubt they were daily smokers, but they all used often enough with other people that they couldn't deny it.

There is just no reason for parents to go ballistic about a college student smoking pot. A non-smoker is about as rare as a non-drinker or a virgin. Delaying drug and alcohol use and sexual activity as long as possible is almost always a good thing for our children's health and life chances, but it is not the end of the world. We don't live in a country that obsesses over extreme notions of purity and honor. Leave that to cultures stuck in the last millennium.

Wait...the Chief? Say it isn't so! Citation please!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's see, the President, the Speaker of the House, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court all smoked pot in college. I don't think it killed their motivation or made them hard drug addicts. I have no idea how often they used pot and I doubt they were daily smokers, but they all used often enough with other people that they couldn't deny it.

There is just no reason for parents to go ballistic about a college student smoking pot. A non-smoker is about as rare as a non-drinker or a virgin. Delaying drug and alcohol use and sexual activity as long as possible is almost always a good thing for our children's health and life chances, but it is not the end of the world. We don't live in a country that obsesses over extreme notions of purity and honor. Leave that to cultures stuck in the last millennium.

Wait...the Chief? Say it isn't so! Citation please!

Man, are you late to the party. Read his biography as ge discussed college life. And I STILL voted for him. So there!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pot will be legal everywhere before your kid turns 30. It's not a big deal. Quite frankly I'd rather see college boys smoke pot than drink - it tones down aggression and probably helps a really driven kid deal with stress. Don't worry about it at all! If you live in DC get yourself some and try it - you'll see that it's no big deal.

Such an ignorant statement. Pot fucks people up. It alters brain chemistry, kills motivatiom and is a gateway drug to more serious addictive substances. I have seen the devestating affects of pot firsthand on two relatives. It is not a gentle drug not to be worried about. It is a big deal and you are perpetuating mistruths.

Two relatives?

Thanks for the anecdotes.

As i just said in another post, you don't know what effect pot will have on any one person. Yes I gave true anecdotes to make the point that pot isn't always the harmles drug it is made out to be. It hsa caused some very devastating consequences to people I know. The person saying it's no big deal doesn't know anyone that has been negatively impacted by pot. Now she knows that to many other people, and I can guaranty you that my 2 relatives are not the only people negatively affected by pot, pot is a very dangerous and life altering substance and is something to worry about.

To be fair, even your anecdotes prove nothing. Your two relatives may have been fuck-ups even without pot. They could have got into booze or a cult or prescription drugs or depression....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's see, the President, the Speaker of the House, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court all smoked pot in college. I don't think it killed their motivation or made them hard drug addicts. I have no idea how often they used pot and I doubt they were daily smokers, but they all used often enough with other people that they couldn't deny it.

There is just no reason for parents to go ballistic about a college student smoking pot. A non-smoker is about as rare as a non-drinker or a virgin. Delaying drug and alcohol use and sexual activity as long as possible is almost always a good thing for our children's health and life chances, but it is not the end of the world. We don't live in a country that obsesses over extreme notions of purity and honor. Leave that to cultures stuck in the last millennium.

Wait...the Chief? Say it isn't so! Citation please!

Man, are you late to the party. Read his biography as ge discussed college life. And I STILL voted for him. So there!

Umm, you can't vote for Supreme Court justices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would treat it like anything else... too many big macs are really bad for you ... 1 every blue moon is not going to kill you but truthfully if you care about your body you won't have any.

Driving 75 in a 55 is illegal, you should not do it, if you get caught you have to live with the consequences.

Tell him when (not if) he gets caught you will NOT pay for a lawyer, so his spending money... he better have about $2500 saved.

This. A friend's son at one of the big VA universities was kicked out for pot use. It does happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's an adult and if he's as smart as you say, he knows the pros and cons including penal.

There are plenty of well educated posters here from the 60s and 70s who were toking up, finished college, and successful. That said, I would still have a talk, not nagging. I talked to my college kids about sex (preferably waiting) but fully knowing they are adults chronologically and will make their own decisions.

We teach them with the benefit of our wisdom and life experiences and hope for the best.

Oh, for god's sake, send your DC some condoms and tell DC to graduate child-free!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's see, the President, the Speaker of the House, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court all smoked pot in college. I don't think it killed their motivation or made them hard drug addicts. I have no idea how often they used pot and I doubt they were daily smokers, but they all used often enough with other people that they couldn't deny it.

There is just no reason for parents to go ballistic about a college student smoking pot. A non-smoker is about as rare as a non-drinker or a virgin. Delaying drug and alcohol use and sexual activity as long as possible is almost always a good thing for our children's health and life chances, but it is not the end of the world. We don't live in a country that obsesses over extreme notions of purity and honor. Leave that to cultures stuck in the last millennium.

Wait...the Chief? Say it isn't so! Citation please!

Man, are you late to the party. Read his biography as ge discussed college life. And I STILL voted for him. So there!

Umm, you can't vote for Supreme Court justices.

Him, not them. Duh, the president.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son was a rare pot smoker in his senior year of high school. I didn't say too much about it as he wasn't a drinker and had decent grades. He received an academic as well as a good character scholarship(35K total/year) to his #1 choice college. He has been so happy there, loves his roommates and courses etc. Well, a few weeks ago he and 2 of his friends were idiots and got caught by the campus police smoking pot on the edge of the campus but still on university grounds. They were all allowed to return to their dorms and I am not sure what is happening to other 2 kids but my son is losing his scholarships this week and we will find out if he will be allowed to remain at the college since he violated the school drug policy which he signed. Without saying too much, this college is very liberal and my husband and I were not expecting such severe sanctions for a first-time offense. I guess we're the idiots. Just posting this cautionary tale in case you might b inclined to warn your own kids.

interesting. Is this school large? My sister used to get caught by campus 'police' for pot ALL the time. Like once a week for almost 3 years straight. She dealed for a while (didn't get caught doing that) and was a notorious smoker - so much so that the dean knew and would call her in and ask her why she smokes so much. Then the dean would then tell her to tone it down a bit and not walk around campus brazenly smoking a joint in the middle of the day.

I think the reason (besides it being very liberal school) why my sister didn't ever get in trouble was because the school is really small. Even medium sized schools (student bodies of 4k and above) have to have more rigid rules whereas smaller schools have lots of flexibility.

I'm not going to name the school but it's a top 10 LAC. They were a lot harsher on public underage drunkeness, which was automatic police involvement called onto campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just make sure he knows that for some jobs, and for some kinds of cases if he becomes a lawyer, he will have to list all the occasions when he used illegal substances (for security clearance). He's probably too far gone to be able to get those jobs now.

You have no idea how many security clearance holding people smoke pot and do worse drugs every weekend in dc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's see, the President, the Speaker of the House, and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court all smoked pot in college. I don't think it killed their motivation or made them hard drug addicts. I have no idea how often they used pot and I doubt they were daily smokers, but they all used often enough with other people that they couldn't deny it.

There is just no reason for parents to go ballistic about a college student smoking pot. A non-smoker is about as rare as a non-drinker or a virgin. Delaying drug and alcohol use and sexual activity as long as possible is almost always a good thing for our children's health and life chances, but it is not the end of the world. We don't live in a country that obsesses over extreme notions of purity and honor. Leave that to cultures stuck in the last millennium.

Wait...the Chief? Say it isn't so! Citation please!

Man, are you late to the party. Read his biography as ge discussed college life. And I STILL voted for him. So there!

Umm, you can't vote for Supreme Court justices.

Him, not them. Duh, the president.

Read the original post above - it refers to the President and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Doesn't take a genius to realize the poster was referring to the Chief Justice in their question about smoking and not the President...