So where did all the kids inbounds for Brent waitlisted for PK3 end up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of the Brent PreK3 wait-listed will end up at Van Ness and Tyler (both Spanish Immersion and Traditional) because many families got proximity preference for one or the other, with homes within half a mile walking distance. Others got it for Peabody, which struggles to accomodate all in-boundary for PreK3. AppleTrees aren't difficult to get into, at least not by Oct count day. So these are the natural choices. A few will land at Logan or Ludlow. The big influx of Brent PreK3 refugees into Van Ness is helping tip the demographic balance to keep the school from being designated Title 1. Good, that will help Van Ness, including the poor in-boundary kids who are enrolled.

I don't see another big PreK3 group entering the 2016 lottery. There aren't as many babies in the neighborhood as two or three years ago.

You might want to read up on the actual DCPS policy for proximity preference before opining about the "many" families zoned for Brent who live more than a half-mile from the school but yet are within a half-mile of Tyler or VanNess. I suppose it comports with your ignorance of wait lists at other CH schools. Your elitist attitude about all the "poors" zoned for VanNess is quite off putting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of the Brent PreK3 wait-listed will end up at Van Ness and Tyler (both Spanish Immersion and Traditional) because many families got proximity preference for one or the other, with homes within half a mile walking distance. Others got it for Peabody, which struggles to accomodate all in-boundary for PreK3. AppleTrees aren't difficult to get into, at least not by Oct count day. So these are the natural choices. A few will land at Logan or Ludlow. The big influx of Brent PreK3 refugees into Van Ness is helping tip the demographic balance to keep the school from being designated Title 1. Good, that will help Van Ness, including the poor in-boundary kids who are enrolled.

I don't see another big PreK3 group entering the 2016 lottery. There aren't as many babies in the neighborhood as two or three years ago.

Isn't it better for the school to be Title 1 -- more money?

yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hmm, flippant would probably be a better descriptor than shitty. There was no real insult to Van Ness except the assumption that the IB Brent kids would return to Brent for K. And I assume many will. That cohort might end up pretty huge for Brent as most of the Appletree kids will return as well. The waitlisted cohort entering K this coming year dispersed to the winds with relatively few starting at Brent, leaving a fair number of spots for OOB kids. But so far this doesn't seem like the case for the rising PK3 group.

There also seems to be a lot less bitterness with this new waitlisted group. Maybe because ALL non-sibs were waitlisted and they knew that would happen going into the lottery. Van Ness being there so close by is huge too.

Will there be much larger K classes in two years at Brent when the PK3 IB non-sibling kids show up? Could another K teacher be added to keep class size down?

If the enrollment numbers support the addition of another class then the answer is yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of the Brent PreK3 wait-listed will end up at Van Ness and Tyler (both Spanish Immersion and Traditional) because many families got proximity preference for one or the other, with homes within half a mile walking distance. Others got it for Peabody, which struggles to accomodate all in-boundary for PreK3. AppleTrees aren't difficult to get into, at least not by Oct count day. So these are the natural choices. A few will land at Logan or Ludlow. The big influx of Brent PreK3 refugees into Van Ness is helping tip the demographic balance to keep the school from being designated Title 1. Good, that will help Van Ness, including the poor in-boundary kids who are enrolled.

I don't see another big PreK3 group entering the 2016 lottery. There aren't as many babies in the neighborhood as two or three years ago.

You might want to read up on the actual DCPS policy for proximity preference before opining about the "many" families zoned for Brent who live more than a half-mile from the school but yet are within a half-mile of Tyler or VanNess. I suppose it comports with your ignorance of wait lists at other CH schools. Your elitist attitude about all the "poors" zoned for VanNess is quite off putting.

Huh? We're in-boundary for Brent and got proximity preference for Tyler for PreK3. I don't claim to understand exactly how the preference is granted anymore. DCPS used to use some sort of center-of-a-square measurement to determine who got it. Now Google maps seems to decide using the walking measurement function!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rumor has it that 14 or 15 of of the 42 or 43 who were rejected for PreK3 are heading to Van Ness and 9 or 10 to AppleTree LP. It seems that four or five are staying at the Hill Preschool. I've only heard of 1 or 2 starting at Mundo Verde.

Brent families are taking half of the seats at VN? This could present a pretty big shock to the system if most return to Brent after two years of PK.

Many schools in DC grapple with this. Nothing new. Good "second choice" schools are attractive all around and will fill their seats until that development sticks and people stick around whether or not they're in-bounds. Capitol Hill is full of this phenomenon and I'm sure other parts of the city know it too. Comes with school choice.

If at least half of the VN seats are being filled by OOB kids, I don't understand why a new school needed to be opened...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of the Brent PreK3 wait-listed will end up at Van Ness and Tyler (both Spanish Immersion and Traditional) because many families got proximity preference for one or the other, with homes within half a mile walking distance. Others got it for Peabody, which struggles to accomodate all in-boundary for PreK3. AppleTrees aren't difficult to get into, at least not by Oct count day. So these are the natural choices. A few will land at Logan or Ludlow. The big influx of Brent PreK3 refugees into Van Ness is helping tip the demographic balance to keep the school from being designated Title 1. Good, that will help Van Ness, including the poor in-boundary kids who are enrolled.

I don't see another big PreK3 group entering the 2016 lottery. There aren't as many babies in the neighborhood as two or three years ago.

You might want to read up on the actual DCPS policy for proximity preference before opining about the "many" families zoned for Brent who live more than a half-mile from the school but yet are within a half-mile of Tyler or VanNess. I suppose it comports with your ignorance of wait lists at other CH schools. Your elitist attitude about all the "poors" zoned for VanNess is quite off putting.

Huh? We're in-boundary for Brent and got proximity preference for Tyler for PreK3. I don't claim to understand exactly how the preference is granted anymore. DCPS used to use some sort of center-of-a-square measurement to determine who got it. Now Google maps seems to decide using the walking measurement function!

The proximity preference is stated as follows: Students who live greater than a half mile walking distance from their zoned DCPS elementary school will receive a proximity preference in the out-of-boundary lottery to a DCPS zoned elementary school that is a half mile or less walking distance from their home.

While it is possible that a family living on the very eastern and southernmost corner of the Brent boundary (Seventh Street below G?) could be eligible for the proximity preference at Tyler, it seems in likely there are "many" with three-year olds entering PK next year. The potential pool for VN would likewise be de minimis given that the boundary ends at the Freeway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of the Brent PreK3 wait-listed will end up at Van Ness and Tyler (both Spanish Immersion and Traditional) because many families got proximity preference for one or the other, with homes within half a mile walking distance. Others got it for Peabody, which struggles to accomodate all in-boundary for PreK3. AppleTrees aren't difficult to get into, at least not by Oct count day. So these are the natural choices. A few will land at Logan or Ludlow. The big influx of Brent PreK3 refugees into Van Ness is helping tip the demographic balance to keep the school from being designated Title 1. Good, that will help Van Ness, including the poor in-boundary kids who are enrolled.

I don't see another big PreK3 group entering the 2016 lottery. There aren't as many babies in the neighborhood as two or three years ago.

You might want to read up on the actual DCPS policy for proximity preference before opining about the "many" families zoned for Brent who live more than a half-mile from the school but yet are within a half-mile of Tyler or VanNess. I suppose it comports with your ignorance of wait lists at other CH schools. Your elitist attitude about all the "poors" zoned for VanNess is quite off putting.

Unless that school is SWS, for some reason.

Huh? We're in-boundary for Brent and got proximity preference for Tyler for PreK3. I don't claim to understand exactly how the preference is granted anymore. DCPS used to use some sort of center-of-a-square measurement to determine who got it. Now Google maps seems to decide using the walking measurement function!

The proximity preference is stated as follows: Students who live greater than a half mile walking distance from their zoned DCPS elementary school will receive a proximity preference in the out-of-boundary lottery to a DCPS zoned elementary school that is a half mile or less walking distance from their home.

While it is possible that a family living on the very eastern and southernmost corner of the Brent boundary (Seventh Street below G?) could be eligible for the proximity preference at Tyler, it seems in likely there are "many" with three-year olds entering PK next year. The potential pool for VN would likewise be de minimis given that the boundary ends at the Freeway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of the Brent PreK3 wait-listed will end up at Van Ness and Tyler (both Spanish Immersion and Traditional) because many families got proximity preference for one or the other, with homes within half a mile walking distance. Others got it for Peabody, which struggles to accomodate all in-boundary for PreK3. AppleTrees aren't difficult to get into, at least not by Oct count day. So these are the natural choices. A few will land at Logan or Ludlow. The big influx of Brent PreK3 refugees into Van Ness is helping tip the demographic balance to keep the school from being designated Title 1. Good, that will help Van Ness, including the poor in-boundary kids who are enrolled.

I don't see another big PreK3 group entering the 2016 lottery. There aren't as many babies in the neighborhood as two or three years ago.

You might want to read up on the actual DCPS policy for proximity preference before opining about the "many" families zoned for Brent who live more than a half-mile from the school but yet are within a half-mile of Tyler or VanNess. I suppose it comports with your ignorance of wait lists at other CH schools. Your elitist attitude about all the "poors" zoned for VanNess is quite off putting.

Huh? We're in-boundary for Brent and got proximity preference for Tyler for PreK3. I don't claim to understand exactly how the preference is granted anymore. DCPS used to use some sort of center-of-a-square measurement to determine who got it. Now Google maps seems to decide using the walking measurement function!

The proximity preference is stated as follows: Students who live greater than a half mile walking distance from their zoned DCPS elementary school will receive a proximity preference in the out-of-boundary lottery to a DCPS zoned elementary school that is a half mile or less walking distance from their home.

While it is possible that a family living on the very eastern and southernmost corner of the Brent boundary (Seventh Street below G?) could be eligible for the proximity preference at Tyler, it seems in likely there are "many" with three-year olds entering PK next year. The potential pool for VN would likewise be de minimis given that the boundary ends at the Freeway.

Unless that school is SWS, for some reason.

[Anonymous]

It will all work same way as with this incoming K class. Some will go private to Capitol Hill day school, St. Peter's, charters, or move out of the area over the next 2 years.

[Anonymous]

I agree. Maybe a quarter of the in-boundary families who put their names in the PreK3 hat aren't committed to Brent for whatever reasons. The rising K class seems to have lost 18 or 20 of the original 72, and gained half a dozen who weren't on the scene 2 1/2 years ago.

[Anonymous]

I think what the previous two posters have said is generally true, but I think if the kids are headed to Appletree or Van Ness, a much higher percentage will return to Brent. I think most of the waitlisted kids at Appletree are headed to Brent for K this year and it will be similar for the kids at Van Ness. But time will tell.

[Anonymous]

Lots of speculation in the thread, but so far the families who've responded say they're sticking with daycare/private preschool. Anyone else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Unless that school is SWS, for some reason.

God, give it a rest. SWS was only ever IB as part of the Cluster, and even then there was no right to go. It was never a true neighborhood school, and the deal with DCPS for SWS to go independent and grow the upper grades was that it had to be citywide. Exactly like Logan Montessori.

[Anonymous]

What daycare centers are people staying at? I am so curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think what the previous two posters have said is generally true, but I think if the kids are headed to Appletree or Van Ness, a much higher percentage will return to Brent. I think most of the waitlisted kids at Appletree are headed to Brent for K this year and it will be similar for the kids at Van Ness. But time will tell.

If a much higher percentage return to Brent (which seems unlikely), then the school simply won't auction off OOB K spots in two years. No worries.