NP here. Ok, so then why is there a smaller class with only AAP kids in it? Why can't some kids be principal placed to even out the class sizes? Getting into the AAP program doesn't make one kid magically smarter than another. There are other kids who do just as well but perhaps had a bad testing day or parents that didn't appeal or push them in for whatever reason. Surely they could find enough kids to put them in the AAP class. it's blatantly unfair to the other kids who have to be in larger classes so that certain kids can have their own private Idaho. Please, give me one good reason why enough kids couldn't be principal placed to even out the classes. Don't say there aren't enough kids that are close because I know the kids at that school. |
| PP is bitter because her/his child didn;t get into AAP. |
You are right. DC is not in Aap but that's fine because it wouldn't be right for my DC. But my DC is being ripped off and PP's kid is benefitting at my kid's expense. My kid doesn't belong in AAp but there are others who could keep up if principal placed and then it would be even. Shrevewood is a crappy school if your kid is not in AaP. |
Great response to a smug bitch! Love how you put her in her place without stooping all the way down to her very low level! Your kid is better off not being in the same class as her kid too, can you imagine?
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This likely won't be a problem because I'm guessing the incoming 3rd grade AAP class will be 22-25 kids. The smaller AAP class will age out and disappear in a few years. It may come to pass that the AAP class will be *bigger* than the gen ed class. |
That doesn't help the rising Gen Ed 4th and 5th graders, who are stuck in bigger classes, while their AAP peers have the luxury of tiny classes. Also, there are other grades that maybe could use the extra teacher more. |
| As a Shrevewood parent to a first grader, the small class size of the third grade AAP class was noticeable to anyone who got the Shrevewood "yearbook". I wonder if parents are going to question why that one class was so much smaller than the others (esp. other third grade parents)? |
It was the same last year, but nobody did anything about it. I think the AAP class last year had 15 or 16 and the other classes had about 26 or so. |
It comes down to whether Shrevewood (meaning both parents and administration collectively) really wants a LLIV program or not. The initial survey sent out before Shrevewood started its LLIV program came back with results that said YES...the parents wanted it!...but once reality set in, it kind of looks like responders really meant "Yes, if MY child gets in!" But in order to get the LLIV program off the ground, there had to be a group of parents that were willing to have their kid stay at the base school and be the "test group" instead of sending their kids to the Center. The first couple of classes ended up being a little smaller than they would have been if the kids had all stayed instead of going to the Center, but not by much since they add in kids for Math and Reading when they qualify. You may argue that the principal could have just filled in the class with principal-placed students, and yes, that is true. But think about it-- If the principal had just immediately started pushing in kids who were "close" but not actually identified for AAP services, then the parents of students in upcoming AAP grade levels would wonder pretty quickly whether this was actually a Level IV program or more like a "kinda/sorta Level IV program" and then the program would never have gotten off the ground because if you aren't getting the actual AAP program, then why not just go to the Center? And even if the parents did not initially think a mixed class was a big deal, as soon as they went to the Center Orientation, I guarantee you they would be beat over the head with this argument from the parents/administrators at the Center that "it's not the same accelerated program because at the base school you have kids in the class who did not meet the criteria for LLIV services" and, like it or not, this argument is compelling. So, if you are just anti LLIV that is fine and I get it. Because it sucks to have an imbalance of class sizes. And that's a different argument. But if the solution is to just throw students in there that haven't met the criteria in order to balance class size, well then why bother having a LLIV AAP program at all? Just offer Center or No Center and be done. |
| Personally, I would prefer no LLIV, mostly because of parents who think it's the "best" class and pass that attitude to their children. Look at your own statement and see why some t the school find LLIV off putting. |
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NP here. I see the point of the PP who said it's annoying or maddening when parents automatically assume it's the "best" class. I don't view it that way, but I do think it will provide the "best" environment for meeting my DD's learning needs right now, so I'm happy to put her in it.
We all know that the AAP kids aren't the only ones who need strong, innovative teachers though, so I do get the frustration when a beloved or talented GenEd teacher is tapped to teach the AAP class. I guess since those are the teachers who seem to be self-motivated to take classes to get their AAP certification, there is a correlation there. But in any case, all our kids need good teachers. All of them. |
Whatever. You're all pretentious and we should just make one giant Center for all of your AAP kids AND the parents! |
Wow. There really is no need to be nasty and dismissive to someone who is being kind and compassionate. But it might be a good idea to examine your bitterness for a deeper issue, as I doubt the root cause of your unhappiness is a public school AAP program. |