Those opposed to "gay marriage" will you explain your position to me?

Anonymous
OP:

I asked for anything but a religious reason and I got ... religious reasons.

I think I understand now.
Anonymous
^right because it's impossible. It'd be like explaining where babies come from and not mentioning sex. Some might insist upon the stork, but we all know it's sex.
Anonymous
I'm sorry that you're upset about the fact that marriage is not between people of the same sex. I don't make the rules. God does.


Ladies and gentlemen: Here it is, that Sharia Law you've heard so much about.
Anonymous

NP here - I have to say, the anti-gay marriage people are not making much of a case.


Anonymous
Please don't scapegoat Islam because you're mad about what marriage is and is not. That's sort of a cheap shot. I'm Catholic and fully know that God is in charge... Of you too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
NP here - I have to say, the anti-gay marriage people are not making much of a case.


Good thing your assessment of our "case" is irrelevant. We actually don't need to make a case. The Bible does it for me. Again, I acknowledge the civil unions of the LGBT community. But, it is not a marriage. About the only thing it has in common with marriage is two separate humans pledging life long oneness. That vow between men and women is holy. Not so between two same sex couples. Even if that annoyed me, wouldn't change it. I'm not in control of the Bible. It is what it is.
Anonymous
If we're talking about biblical marriage, do you also support polygamy? Can rapists make things right by taking their victims as their wife?

We aren't talking about what marriage means within your religion, we're talking about government recognized unions, and the rights that go along with such unions should apply to everyone. If you want to play semantics, the government should only recognize civil unions for everyone, and we can leave the word marriage for the bigots.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
NP here - I have to say, the anti-gay marriage people are not making much of a case.


Good thing your assessment of our "case" is irrelevant. We actually don't need to make a case. The Bible does it for me. Again, I acknowledge the civil unions of the LGBT community. But, it is not a marriage. About the only thing it has in common with marriage is two separate humans pledging life long oneness. That vow between men and women is holy. Not so between two same sex couples. Even if that annoyed me, wouldn't change it. I'm not in control of the Bible. It is what it is.


Why do you think everyone should be governed by your bible, in this country where we have a separation of church and state? It really isn't relevant to the discussion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If we're talking about biblical marriage, do you also support polygamy? Can rapists make things right by taking their victims as their wife?

We aren't talking about what marriage means within your religion, we're talking about government recognized unions, and the rights that go along with such unions should apply to everyone. If you want to play semantics, the government should only recognize civil unions for everyone, and we can leave the word marriage for the bigots.
Of course I don't support polygamy or rapists. In your world of man doing whatever he wants, I'm sure you support them. As far as the government issue, I fully support civil unions and all of the privileges therein. However, if the civil union is of two males, it's not a marriage. Marriage is sanctified and holy under God. That precludes same sex couples.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Will you please explain outside of religion, why you would want the government from keeping two consenting adults from getting married?

I'm excluding religion, because that isn't part of the argument. We have freedom of religion in America and no one is asking to force churches to marry them.

I'm talking about something that American citizens have the privileged of, why would you want to deny that to any other American citizen?

I seriously want to understand your viewpoint because I don't. Educate me?


Lesbian here. The best way to reduce gay sex is to promote gay marriage, if the pattern set by heterosexuals is anything to go by. Our federal taxes went up a bunch when the feds recognized us. So there are two reasons gay marriage, like straight marriage, isn't all sunshine. But I'm so glad on the balance that we are moving toward full marriage equality and that my wife and I are married, especially because we have a child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If only you kept it behind closed doors, I wouldn't care. It's shoving it in my face that I find repulsive. Has nothing to do with your faith, OP.


Are gay people knocking on your door and then performing fellatio on your front porch? Maybe they think YOU are in their face with your heterosexual actions
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we're talking about biblical marriage, do you also support polygamy? Can rapists make things right by taking their victims as their wife?

We aren't talking about what marriage means within your religion, we're talking about government recognized unions, and the rights that go along with such unions should apply to everyone. If you want to play semantics, the government should only recognize civil unions for everyone, and we can leave the word marriage for the bigots.
Of course I don't support polygamy or rapists. In your world of man doing whatever he wants, I'm sure you support them. As far as the government issue, I fully support civil unions and all of the privileges therein. However, if the civil union is of two males, it's not a marriage. Marriage is sanctified and holy under God. That precludes same sex couples.


Have you actually read a bible? You do realize most marriages involved one man and many many wives, correct? But you dont support polygamy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, who really gives a sh*t? You know morally, logically it doesn't make sense. Stop baiting people.


OP: I give a shit, or I would not have asked. I am not baiting, I really want to understand if I am missing something here.


Because despite what we've been told by the "medical establishment," there is nothing natural or right about homosexuality. Now before you jump all over me for that statement, I will be the first to say that all of us have problems, failings, sin, whatever you want to call it in some area. But it is not in the best interest of society for the government to encourage the failings in people by presenting them as normal and natural.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
NP here - I have to say, the anti-gay marriage people are not making much of a case.


Good thing your assessment of our "case" is irrelevant. We actually don't need to make a case. The Bible does it for me. Again, I acknowledge the civil unions of the LGBT community. But, it is not a marriage. About the only thing it has in common with marriage is two separate humans pledging life long oneness. That vow between men and women is holy. Not so between two same sex couples. Even if that annoyed me, wouldn't change it. I'm not in control of the Bible. It is what it is.


Why do you think everyone should be governed by your bible, in this country where we have a separation of church and state? It really isn't relevant to the discussion.
The Bible is not mine. It's a holy book that explains who we are, why we are here and how we are supposed to live out of respect to God. I do believe all of mankind is required to live by its tenants. However, it's not my business if you chose not to. That's on you. Still, you can't change the definition of marriage. It's not within your imagined power. Sorry, don't shoot the messenger.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, who really gives a sh*t? You know morally, logically it doesn't make sense. Stop baiting people.


OP: I give a shit, or I would not have asked. I am not baiting, I really want to understand if I am missing something here.


Because despite what we've been told by the "medical establishment," there is nothing natural or right about homosexuality. Now before you jump all over me for that statement, I will be the first to say that all of us have problems, failings, sin, whatever you want to call it in some area. But it is not in the best interest of society for the government to encourage the failings in people by presenting them as normal and natural.


You can't argue with stupid
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