A very interseting observation which I think is based on religion at my sons school

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Anonymous wrote:Gee that's fascinating. Since statistically this area has a lot of Jews and a lot of Wasps, isn't it a fantastic coincidence too that people have a peer group kind of like themselves? And your anecdata is so compelling since it's based on only your one experience at one school and nothing else.

But you go on thinking it's a big conspiracy. And of course, the fact that you preceded your "interesting observation" (read: bigoted thought) by telling us they are "lovely people" makes it all okay.

Yeah OP, don't you know that "observing" is actually code for "being bigoted?"

Yes, all my life I've heard these "interesting observations" about Jews, always referred to as "lovely people," and yes, they are code for bigotry. The interesting observation is, of course, always something negative.

Oh FFS. Jews are an overrepresented, highly privileged minority in the US. You're hardly the victim of bigotry, but keep on playing that card.

So, if I understand this post, because Jews are "overrepresented" and "highly privileged" -- whatever that means -- anyone can say whatever they like about them. Bigotry is meaningless. How does that work? And what "card" have I played?

And how does your formula play out, if I understand this? Does rich, privileged Zendaya not get to call bullshit on Guiliana Rancic's racism? Is she "playing a card" too?

Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:Gee that's fascinating. Since statistically this area has a lot of Jews and a lot of Wasps, isn't it a fantastic coincidence too that people have a peer group kind of like themselves? And your anecdata is so compelling since it's based on only your one experience at one school and nothing else.

But you go on thinking it's a big conspiracy. And of course, the fact that you preceded your "interesting observation" (read: bigoted thought) by telling us they are "lovely people" makes it all okay.

Yeah OP, don't you know that "observing" is actually code for "being bigoted?"

Yes, all my life I've heard these "interesting observations" about Jews, always referred to as "lovely people," and yes, they are code for bigotry. The interesting observation is, of course, always something negative.

Oh FFS. Jews are an overrepresented, highly privileged minority in the US. You're hardly the victim of bigotry, but keep on playing that card.

So, if I understand this post, because Jews are "overrepresented" and "highly privileged" -- whatever that means -- anyone can say whatever they like about them. Bigotry is meaningless. How does that work? And what "card" have I played?

And how does your formula play out, if I understand this? Does rich, privileged Zendaya not get to call bullshit on Guiliana Rancic's racism? Is she "playing a card" too?

Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

I'm not a victim. I don't claim to be a victim. I don't play the victim in any way. (Neither does Zendaya for that matter). There's nothing to "get over." When I see bigotry, I call it as I see it. You don't seem to be able to understand, much less appreciate, the difference between these two positions in life.

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Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

Privileged is not a dirty word. There's nothing wrong with being privileged if it was earned through hard work, intelligent choices, and being cooperatively united as a group in helping each other succeed.

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Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

Privileged is not a dirty word. There's nothing wrong with being privileged if it was earned through hard work, intelligent choices, and being cooperatively united as a group in helping each other succeed.

Agreed. The other poster seems to think that by acknowledging the fact that Jews are relatively privileged, I'm like david dukes claiming there's an international Jewish conspiracy.

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Anonymous wrote:Gee that's fascinating. Since statistically this area has a lot of Jews and a lot of Wasps, isn't it a fantastic coincidence too that people have a peer group kind of like themselves? And your anecdata is so compelling since it's based on only your one experience at one school and nothing else.

But you go on thinking it's a big conspiracy. And of course, the fact that you preceded your "interesting observation" (read: bigoted thought) by telling us they are "lovely people" makes it all okay.

Yeah OP, don't you know that "observing" is actually code for "being bigoted?"

Yes, all my life I've heard these "interesting observations" about Jews, always referred to as "lovely people," and yes, they are code for bigotry. The interesting observation is, of course, always something negative.

Oh FFS. Jews are an overrepresented, highly privileged minority in the US. You're hardly the victim of bigotry, but keep on playing that card.

So, if I understand this post, because Jews are "overrepresented" and "highly privileged" -- whatever that means -- anyone can say whatever they like about them. Bigotry is meaningless. How does that work? And what "card" have I played?

And how does your formula play out, if I understand this? Does rich, privileged Zendaya not get to call bullshit on Guiliana Rancic's racism? Is she "playing a card" too?

Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

I'm not a victim. I don't claim to be a victim. I don't play the victim in any way. (Neither does Zendaya for that matter). There's nothing to "get over." When I see bigotry, I call it as I see it. You don't seem to be able to understand, much less appreciate, the difference between these two positions in life.

You can't be bigoted against a group that's privileged. There's no such thing as racism against whites or sexism against men because whites and men are privileged. Someone can be a dick to you because you're a Jew, but they're not being a bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:Gee that's fascinating. Since statistically this area has a lot of Jews and a lot of Wasps, isn't it a fantastic coincidence too that people have a peer group kind of like themselves? And your anecdata is so compelling since it's based on only your one experience at one school and nothing else.

But you go on thinking it's a big conspiracy. And of course, the fact that you preceded your "interesting observation" (read: bigoted thought) by telling us they are "lovely people" makes it all okay.

Yeah OP, don't you know that "observing" is actually code for "being bigoted?"

Yes, all my life I've heard these "interesting observations" about Jews, always referred to as "lovely people," and yes, they are code for bigotry. The interesting observation is, of course, always something negative.

Oh FFS. Jews are an overrepresented, highly privileged minority in the US. You're hardly the victim of bigotry, but keep on playing that card.

So, if I understand this post, because Jews are "overrepresented" and "highly privileged" -- whatever that means -- anyone can say whatever they like about them. Bigotry is meaningless. How does that work? And what "card" have I played?

And how does your formula play out, if I understand this? Does rich, privileged Zendaya not get to call bullshit on Guiliana Rancic's racism? Is she "playing a card" too?

Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

I'm not a victim. I don't claim to be a victim. I don't play the victim in any way. (Neither does Zendaya for that matter). There's nothing to "get over." When I see bigotry, I call it as I see it. You don't seem to be able to understand, much less appreciate, the difference between these two positions in life.

You can't be bigoted against a group that's privileged. There's no such thing as racism against whites or sexism against men because whites and men are privileged. Someone can be a dick to you because you're a Jew, but they're not being a bigot.

Are you being ironic? I sure as hell hope so.

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I have observed that a lot of Jewish people are cliquey, centered around Jewish life, sort of insular (not sure about that, i am not on the inside). I know some Jewish people that are not like this. They all seem like nice people to me. I don't really think or assume anything about this, it is just my personal observation. If this makes me a bigot i guess I'm a bigot.

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"Wasp" as you refer to it here is not a religion

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Anonymous wrote:I have observed that a lot of Jewish people are cliquey, centered around Jewish life, sort of insular (not sure about that, i am not on the inside). I know some Jewish people that are not like this. They all seem like nice people to me. I don't really think or assume anything about this, it is just my personal observation. If this makes me a bigot i guess I'm a bigot.

Yep, you're a bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:Gee that's fascinating. Since statistically this area has a lot of Jews and a lot of Wasps, isn't it a fantastic coincidence too that people have a peer group kind of like themselves? And your anecdata is so compelling since it's based on only your one experience at one school and nothing else.

But you go on thinking it's a big conspiracy. And of course, the fact that you preceded your "interesting observation" (read: bigoted thought) by telling us they are "lovely people" makes it all okay.

Yeah OP, don't you know that "observing" is actually code for "being bigoted?"

Yes, all my life I've heard these "interesting observations" about Jews, always referred to as "lovely people," and yes, they are code for bigotry. The interesting observation is, of course, always something negative.

Oh FFS. Jews are an overrepresented, highly privileged minority in the US. You're hardly the victim of bigotry, but keep on playing that card.

So, if I understand this post, because Jews are "overrepresented" and "highly privileged" -- whatever that means -- anyone can say whatever they like about them. Bigotry is meaningless. How does that work? And what "card" have I played?

And how does your formula play out, if I understand this? Does rich, privileged Zendaya not get to call bullshit on Guiliana Rancic's racism? Is she "playing a card" too?

Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

I'm not a victim. I don't claim to be a victim. I don't play the victim in any way. (Neither does Zendaya for that matter). There's nothing to "get over." When I see bigotry, I call it as I see it. You don't seem to be able to understand, much less appreciate, the difference between these two positions in life.

You can't be bigoted against a group that's privileged. There's no such thing as racism against whites or sexism against men because whites and men are privileged. Someone can be a dick to you because you're a Jew, but they're not being a bigot.

Where did you come up with that definition? It's as if you just made it up. Of course, it's bigotry if a person feels that way towards a group of people or a person for no other reason than that they (he) belong to that group.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know the answer. A couple of possibilities:

They go to church together--youth groups, etc.
They live in the same neighborhoods.

Jewish people attend temple or synagogue - not church. Jewish people celebrate Jewish holidays and Christian celebrate Christian. Why does this surprise you?

As above.

At any school kids and parents will fall into little groups, as happens pretty much everywhere.

Are they in a group because they go to the same church or do they go to the same church because they think alike.

With the parents there is an old saying birds of a feather flock together, why be surprised.

In regards to the kids they may go because the parents go

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Anonymous wrote:Gee that's fascinating. Since statistically this area has a lot of Jews and a lot of Wasps, isn't it a fantastic coincidence too that people have a peer group kind of like themselves? And your anecdata is so compelling since it's based on only your one experience at one school and nothing else.

But you go on thinking it's a big conspiracy. And of course, the fact that you preceded your "interesting observation" (read: bigoted thought) by telling us they are "lovely people" makes it all okay.

Yeah OP, don't you know that "observing" is actually code for "being bigoted?"

Yes, all my life I've heard these "interesting observations" about Jews, always referred to as "lovely people," and yes, they are code for bigotry. The interesting observation is, of course, always something negative.

Oh FFS. Jews are an overrepresented, highly privileged minority in the US. You're hardly the victim of bigotry, but keep on playing that card.

So, if I understand this post, because Jews are "overrepresented" and "highly privileged" -- whatever that means -- anyone can say whatever they like about them. Bigotry is meaningless. How does that work? And what "card" have I played?

And how does your formula play out, if I understand this? Does rich, privileged Zendaya not get to call bullshit on Guiliana Rancic's racism? Is she "playing a card" too?

Jews are privileged as a class. Blacks are not. That's the difference. You're not the victim of bigotry. Get over it.

I'm not a victim. I don't claim to be a victim. I don't play the victim in any way. (Neither does Zendaya for that matter). There's nothing to "get over." When I see bigotry, I call it as I see it. You don't seem to be able to understand, much less appreciate, the difference between these two positions in life.

You can't be bigoted against a group that's privileged. There's no such thing as racism against whites or sexism against men because whites and men are privileged. Someone can be a dick to you because you're a Jew, but they're not being a bigot.

Where did you come up with that definition? It's as if you just made it up. Of course, it's bigotry if a person feels that way towards a group of people or a person for no other reason than that they (he) belong to that group.

PP isn't the only idiot on DCUM who believes that bigoted behavior is reserved for certain groups and can't possibly apply to others.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people think I (as an adult) am cliquish, since the majority of my friends are Jewish. But the only reason for that is because I attend synagogue weekly, am involved with Jewish organizations and charities, and send my kids to a Jewish school.

When I was in college, I had a broader spectrum of friends from different nationalities and backgrounds but the majority of people I have met in the past 10 years in the DC-area have been Jewish.

Dont assume people are being cliquish bc they dont want to associate with people outside their religion/race, but sometimes, due to outside interests, it just works out like that. Athletes usually hang out with other athletes as well and less with the drama department.

This is clickish behavior. I mean, it's fine, but please own it. It's not just a coincidence. I'm sure you meet more than just Jewish people, but it is those people with whom you want to socialize.

There is frequently something weird and unpleasant about comments on these threads about Jews. If someone tells you they're active in their church and has a lot of friends through their church, you would think nothing of it.
The PP did not say they only have Jewish friends, just that the majority of people they meet are Jewish due to synagogue attendance.

This is me as well. The jewish community is the center of my social life--for both me and the kids. We attend synagogue on Sat---that means playdates stem from whomever is there. The kids attend day school---I would guess that 90%+ of the population at the school has at least one jewish parent. The younger kids are in the synagogue preschool which has a judaics slant and while the school does not discriminate based on religion, I could see how a non-jewish person would feel uncomfortable with the judiacs component and the family centered activities at the synagogue (see Sat playdates). Since we're in synagogue on Sat, the kids need to find activities that meet on Sundays. It's easy to register for Sunday activities through the JCC. My mah jong and bridge games either occur at the JCC or the synagogue. My knitting group meets at synagogue. So if I see you on Sat morning, our kids go to school together and are on the soccer team together, and then I see you at a synagogue event, chances are we're going to be come friendly---maybe not best friends, but certainly social.

You've chosen this life though. In other words you go out of your way to spend time with Jewish people and never seem out anyone who isn't. It's the same for catholic school parents who only do things with their church. You'd think these people would actively seek out a group activity that would not revolve around their religion but they actively try to cloister themselves from the rest of the world. There is nothing wrong with being into your religion. I do think there is something wrong with going about as if the people like you are the only ones that matter.

Np here. Yes, she's chosen this life, but not at the exclusion of other people or groups. If the women at synagogue Saturday morning invite her to a mah Jong group that plays Sunday nights at the JCC, should she decline so she can go find a Christian group? Should she spend time in her probably busy schedule to find an AA knitting group even though some people she sees often already have one in the neighborhood? This is how communities form and friendships develop. I'm new to the area and while the women in my neighborhood are friendly, I haven't developed friendships with them yet because I don't attend the church down the street. I don't think they're excluding me. They just have many hours of casual conversations turned into friendships.

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Many Jewish parents hope that their children will choose a Jewish spouse.

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Anonymous wrote:Many Jewish parents hope that their children will choose a Jewish spouse.

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Your point?