Virginia (out of state) vs. Wake Forest

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, those scary ROVA kids. Why on earth would someone raise their child in ROVA?

It's not that they are scary or gun toting. The original comment about ROVA was that it makes UVA a bit more sheltered/parochial than Wake which draws from a larger geography.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, those scary ROVA kids. Why on earth would someone raise their child in ROVA?

It's not that they are scary or gun toting. The original comment about ROVA was that it makes UVA a bit more sheltered/parochial than Wake which draws from a larger geography.

Wake Forest's student body is more cosmopolitan - like Vanderbilt and Emory, WF has broadened the area that they attract students from.

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Wake's Med school is ranked 15th in the country, so I don't think they are lacking in the hard sciences.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, those scary ROVA kids. Why on earth would someone raise their child in ROVA?

It's not that they are scary or gun toting. The original comment about ROVA was that it makes UVA a bit more sheltered/parochial than Wake which draws from a larger geography.

Wake Forest's student body is more cosmopolitan - like Vanderbilt and Emory, WF has broadened the area that they attract students from.

+1 I have travelled all over the world and I always meet someone from Wake. Its odd, but there it is .. India, Egypt, Germany, Morocco, France, England, Costa Rica ...

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Wake Forest is very rigorous (nicknamed "Work Force"), but that rigor is paying off is rising rankings. Look for WF to move past UVA into the Top 20 in coming years.

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These schools are on our radar as is W&M. Does anyone have thoughts about why W&M is lower ranked than UVA and Wake by US News? SAT scores are same between UVA and W&M (Wake is test optional), and based on Naviance at our school it is easier to get into Wake than the other two (we have a mix of VA and MD and DC kids). Is W&M viewed any less favorably by employers and grad schools? Maybe it is that W&M gets fewer applications? Just curious.

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Just to clarify one point, Wake is NOT religious. Used to be affiliated with the Southern Baptists, but they broke many years ago.

I'm a Winston-Salem native. Wake has a great rep, like others have said, fantastic medical and law schools. But UVA seems comparable to me. There is more to do in Charlottesville. It's more of a "college town" than Winston is. Winston, to me, would be boring if I was in college there. Great town to have and raise a family though, and plenty of arts and things to do. But there's no real strip of bars or college kid hangouts, certainly not within walking distance of the university.

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Anonymous wrote:Va is divided into NOVA and ROVA (rest of Virginia).

People north of maryland view VA as a state in whole. When "nova" has shit like 'jefferson davis highway', it isn't all that different from 'rova' as much as it claims to be

Yup it is similar. And thankfully both nova and rova don't have the supercilious Maryland attitude that you have

If you think Arlington "isn't all that different from" from Richmond, Norfolk or Roanoke you are fooling yourself. There is a a gradual transition so that parts of Fairfax county aren't all that different from Fredericksburg, but NOVA is distinct.

I see people tote hand guns like the wild west in arlington - just like in "rova".

I'm just saying how people from PA and points north see VA - as one big state without such clear distinction. You might think there is, but you are more Virginian than anything else.

I'm from PA. I see Maryland as a kind of ick state with its capitol city full of poverty and drug problems and crime and no real redeeming qualities.

I don't have anything against Virginia, but at least it has some historical points of interest and seems lower in crime, plus has some of the best public schools in the country. It seems like "ROVA" is similar to most of the rural parts of the northeast. The politics are different, but honestly, MD politics are so different from the NE (we are more "conservative" democrats up here) it's not like the NE feels a kinship with either state there.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA has a better reputation.

In the DMV, but they have the same ranking nationally. UVA is revered in this area, but the range of UVA's reputation is far less than many here imagine.

You are silly.

UVA is much stronger than Wake in NYC, Boston, SF, Seattle. Top firms recruit more at McIntire than WF.

The national ranking is complete crap.

I would love to see a ranking done by FT or WSJ that ranks schools by placement in Bulge Bracket IB's, Buyside Finance, Google, MSFT, Facebook, Apple, Palantir, MBB-Consulting, CIA DI/NCS, State FSO, marketing at Ogilvy/WPP, etc. I.E. jobs at firms that UG's really want.

WSJ did a ranking based on 'feeder' schools to top grad programs in law and medicine:

http://anayambaker.hubpages.com/hub/Wall-Street-Journal-College-Rankings-The-Full-List-and-Rating-Criteria

This is much more valuable than silly USNEWS.

This isn't even close. By reputation, UVA wins this fight easily. I don't even know where Wake Forest is.

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Anonymous wrote:Va is divided into NOVA and ROVA (rest of Virginia).

People north of maryland view VA as a state in whole. When "nova" has shit like 'jefferson davis highway', it isn't all that different from 'rova' as much as it claims to be

Yup it is similar. And thankfully both nova and rova don't have the supercilious Maryland attitude that you have

If you think Arlington "isn't all that different from" from Richmond, Norfolk or Roanoke you are fooling yourself. There is a a gradual transition so that parts of Fairfax county aren't all that different from Fredericksburg, but NOVA is distinct.

I see people tote hand guns like the wild west in arlington - just like in "rova".

I'm just saying how people from PA and points north see VA - as one big state without such clear distinction. You might think there is, but you are more Virginian than anything else.

I'm from PA. I see Maryland as a kind of ick state with its capitol city full of poverty and drug problems and crime and no real redeeming qualities.

I don't have anything against Virginia, but at least it has some historical points of interest and seems lower in crime, plus has some of the best public schools in the country. It seems like "ROVA" is similar to most of the rural parts of the northeast. The politics are different, but honestly, MD politics are so different from the NE (we are more "conservative" democrats up here) it's not like the NE feels a kinship with either state there.

Annapolis must have really gone down hill. . .

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Anonymous wrote:Wake's Med school is ranked 15th in the country, so I don't think they are lacking in the hard sciences.

In USNews, Wake is ranked tied for #52 among Research medical schools and tied for #61 for Primary Care.

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Anonymous wrote:Va is divided into NOVA and ROVA (rest of Virginia).

People north of maryland view VA as a state in whole. When "nova" has shit like 'jefferson davis highway', it isn't all that different from 'rova' as much as it claims to be

Yup it is similar. And thankfully both nova and rova don't have the supercilious Maryland attitude that you have

If you think Arlington "isn't all that different from" from Richmond, Norfolk or Roanoke you are fooling yourself. There is a a gradual transition so that parts of Fairfax county aren't all that different from Fredericksburg, but NOVA is distinct.

I see people tote hand guns like the wild west in arlington - just like in "rova".

I'm just saying how people from PA and points north see VA - as one big state without such clear distinction. You might think there is, but you are more Virginian than anything else.

I'm from PA. I see Maryland as a kind of ick state with its capitol city full of poverty and drug problems and crime and no real redeeming qualities.

I don't have anything against Virginia, but at least it has some historical points of interest and seems lower in crime, plus has some of the best public schools in the country. It seems like "ROVA" is similar to most of the rural parts of the northeast. The politics are different, but honestly, MD politics are so different from the NE (we are more "conservative" democrats up here) it's not like the NE feels a kinship with either state there.

Hahahaha. Lord you’re a moron. Anyone here prefer Harrisburg to Annapolis? Anyone? No.

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Anonymous wrote:Both excellent schools to learn how to do a title search and real estate settlement.
Horrible at math, computer science, chemistry, physics and engineering.

You know.... The hard stuff.

Let me guess, U.MD. would be much better

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Anonymous wrote:Va is divided into NOVA and ROVA (rest of Virginia).

People north of maryland view VA as a state in whole. When "nova" has shit like 'jefferson davis highway', it isn't all that different from 'rova' as much as it claims to be

Yup it is similar. And thankfully both nova and rova don't have the supercilious Maryland attitude that you have

If you think Arlington "isn't all that different from" from Richmond, Norfolk or Roanoke you are fooling yourself. There is a a gradual transition so that parts of Fairfax county aren't all that different from Fredericksburg, but NOVA is distinct.

I see people tote hand guns like the wild west in arlington - just like in "rova".

I'm just saying how people from PA and points north see VA - as one big state without such clear distinction. You might think there is, but you are more Virginian than anything else.

I'm from PA. I see Maryland as a kind of ick state with its capitol city full of poverty and drug problems and crime and no real redeeming qualities.

I don't have anything against Virginia, but at least it has some historical points of interest and seems lower in crime, plus has some of the best public schools in the country. It seems like "ROVA" is similar to most of the rural parts of the northeast. The politics are different, but honestly, MD politics are so different from the NE (we are more "conservative" democrats up here) it's not like the NE feels a kinship with either state there.

Hahahaha. Lord you’re a moron. Anyone here prefer Harrisburg to Annapolis? Anyone? No.

+1. You see a lot of really stupid people here but this one is a prize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are very similar but slightly different outlook.
Wake Forest is an enclave of old money and is a religious school. Very serious student body. An expensive school with expensive people in it overall (I know there will be a few who say they know very middle class kids who go there -- ok, but a minority) The town of WS is a nice -- an arts center, the law and medical school are very good, and it is a jumping off point for the whole South.
UVA is the flagship school for Va, and is much more diverse economically. But VA embraces the two class system -- the rich and others. That attitude is prevalent VA. Also UVA has a style that seems pretty mandatory. (You will know it when you see it) But for making contacts in the business and govt community in VA you cant beat it between the two. Charlottesville is a beautiful town, but it is pretty full of itself.
Both are great schools --GL.

Also taught a both schools: accurate analysis.