How selective is UNC Chapel Hill for out-of-staters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guarantee none of those schools have no show classes and give grades for absolutely nothing.

Unc is in with Alabama and Florida State but even they probably don't graduate complete illiterates .

How do you guarantee that? They let in kids with 800 SATs and poor grades; they're getting through somehow and it damn skippy isn't by mastering the material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guarantee none of those schools have no show classes and give grades for absolutely nothing.

Unc is in with Alabama and Florida State but even they probably don't graduate complete illiterates .

How do you guarantee that? They let in kids with 800 SATs and poor grades; they're getting through somehow and it damn skippy isn't by mastering the material.

Because it was NC state journalists that caught Unc and NCstate was looked into and they had a higher failure rate among athletes. Unc graduated all of them which is easy when nothing is required. All those schools are better than NC State. Unc is alone in its exploitation and horrendously low standards. They should join the SEC to be among their academic peers.

[Anonymous]

Apparently, they let non athlete students take the no show classes also. For decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guarantee none of those schools have no show classes and give grades for absolutely nothing.

Unc is in with Alabama and Florida State but even they probably don't graduate complete illiterates .

How do you guarantee that? They let in kids with 800 SATs and poor grades; they're getting through somehow and it damn skippy isn't by mastering the material.

Because it was NC state journalists that caught Unc and NCstate was looked into and they had a higher failure rate among athletes. Unc graduated all of them which is easy when nothing is required. All those schools are better than NC State. Unc is alone in its exploitation and horrendously low standards. They should join the SEC to be among their academic peers.

So NC State brings them in and flunks them. How is that not exploitative? You are seriously unbalanced when it comes to this, and very naïve to think that UNC is alone in this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guarantee none of those schools have no show classes and give grades for absolutely nothing.

Unc is in with Alabama and Florida State but even they probably don't graduate complete illiterates .

How do you guarantee that? They let in kids with 800 SATs and poor grades; they're getting through somehow and it damn skippy isn't by mastering the material.

Because it was NC state journalists that caught Unc and NCstate was looked into and they had a higher failure rate among athletes. Unc graduated all of them which is easy when nothing is required. All those schools are better than NC State. Unc is alone in its exploitation and horrendously low standards. They should join the SEC to be among their academic peers.

So NC State brings them in and flunks them. How is that not exploitative? You are seriously unbalanced when it comes to this, and very naïve to think that UNC is alone in this.

Just a quick Google:

Michigan (2008)
The Ann Arbor News reported that from 2004 to 2007, 251 athletes took independent study classes with the same professor and received suspiciously high grades.

Minnesota (1999)
The basketball team had tournament victories erased after hundreds of assignments were completed for players.

Stanford (2011)
Academic advisers discontinued a list of classes recommended to athletes for years because they were too easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:North Carolina has one of the worst public school systems in the country. Unc is forced to accept 82% in state . Out of state is difficult because of this . The school population as a whole is average and the revelation that the school has graduated decades of illiterate athletes shows the subjective standards. The school has zero Nobel , fields medal or academy award alumni. I think they have 8 Pulitzer alumni but minimal Emmy alumni .

The most accomplished alumni in recent times are basketball and football players.

In case you've missed it, the Nobel Prize is a bit a joke these days and Academy Awards and Emmys? Really?

I know, right - even Obama was given one that he didn't earn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guarantee none of those schools have no show classes and give grades for absolutely nothing.

Unc is in with Alabama and Florida State but even they probably don't graduate complete illiterates .

How do you guarantee that? They let in kids with 800 SATs and poor grades; they're getting through somehow and it damn skippy isn't by mastering the material.

Because it was NC state journalists that caught Unc and NCstate was looked into and they had a higher failure rate among athletes. Unc graduated all of them which is easy when nothing is required. All those schools are better than NC State. Unc is alone in its exploitation and horrendously low standards. They should join the SEC to be among their academic peers.

So NC State brings them in and flunks them. How is that not exploitative? You are seriously unbalanced when it comes to this, and very naïve to think that UNC is alone in this.

Just a quick Google:

Michigan (2008)
The Ann Arbor News reported that from 2004 to 2007, 251 athletes took independent study classes with the same professor and received suspiciously high grades.

Minnesota (1999)
The basketball team had tournament victories erased after hundreds of assignments were completed for players.

Stanford (2011)
Academic advisers discontinued a list of classes recommended to athletes for years because they were too easy.

So one class was easy at Michigan and Stanford made their academics harder after self review.

Minnesota sounds most like Unc but unfortunately Unc is way worse in that it was an entire major and no classes even existed . Illiterates were given degrees for decades. Minnesota vacated victories... That's gonna sting ... Unc won 2 championships in basketball with illiterates .

[Anonymous]

^^^ nc state fails players that don't pass courses. Unc awards degrees to illiterates.

Nc state admits and provides academic support but those who choose not to do anything fail. Unc provides no education whatsoever and gives a degree. That speaks for itself. Completely devoid of standards or morals.

[Anonymous]

Unc had 200 different classes that never met.

[Anonymous]

Thank God that Carolina had the good sense to deny admission to unhinged UNC Hater mom!

[Anonymous]

Why is pointing out unprecedented degrees of academic fraud hating?

[Anonymous]

^^^ true. The more you look into it , the worse it gets. It's a lot like Penn State. Academics are way behind sports and all kinds of cheating, low character and low standards . Just admit it why all the bluster about being a good school, it's weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:North Carolina has one of the worst public school systems in the country. Unc is forced to accept 82% in state . Out of state is difficult because of this . The school population as a whole is average and the revelation that the school has graduated decades of illiterate athletes shows the subjective standards. The school has zero Nobel , fields medal or academy award alumni. I think they have 8 Pulitzer alumni but minimal Emmy alumni .

The most accomplished alumni in recent times are basketball and football players.

Hey, it's the UMD booster again! How's it hangin'?

[Anonymous]

I'm closely related to a UNC professor. He loves his institution but thinks it's such a shame that there's such a descrepency between the quality of in state vs. out of state students. He has said he wouldn't want my OOS children to go there (if they could even get in) because the much lower academic level of the state students would really hinder their education and experience.

He said professors love the OOS students and wish there were more of them but they have to slow things down to the in-state level -- more so than at other top state universities.

[Anonymous]

Some schools have higher standards for student athletes. The NYT did an article about the Wisconsin Badgers basketball team when they made it to the final 4 this year. They wrote about how much studying the team is made to do on the road even during March Madness.