Proposal B to have Oyster-Adams feed into Cardozo H.S...

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What happens to Oyster kids for high school under plan C

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Everyone is city wide lottery, horrrrrrible plan. No proximity preference.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens to Oyster kids for high school under plan C

Supposedly, special programs such as dual language will have feeder systems through high school. Not sure what that means, given that there isn't really a dual language high school program. So, Oyster kids can choose between an imaginary dual language high school or the city-wide high school lottery.

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Anonymous wrote:What happens to Oyster kids for high school under plan C

Supposedly, special programs such as dual language will have feeder systems through high school. Not sure what that means, given that there isn't really a dual language high school program. So, Oyster kids can choose between an imaginary dual language high school or the city-wide high school lottery.

Is CHEC imaginary? Plan B makes sense, but maybe with oyster going to CHEC.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happens to Oyster kids for high school under plan C

Supposedly, special programs such as dual language will have feeder systems through high school. Not sure what that means, given that there isn't really a dual language high school program. So, Oyster kids can choose between an imaginary dual language high school or the city-wide high school lottery.

Is CHEC imaginary? Plan B makes sense, but maybe with oyster going to CHEC.

I confess to not knowing CHEC well, but these are the references I could find in their website to language in high school:

"The Multilingual Communications and the Arts SLC provides pathways leading to professional or technical careers in cosmetology, language and interpretation, fine arts, music, law and protective services. This year, MCA will continue its program in Child Care Development."

and
"International Spanish Academy - Bell Multicultural High School and Lincoln Multicultural Middle School have been accepted as part of the network of schools that belong to the International Spanish Academy. This program begins in the 6th grade, and will develop students who have bilingual proficiency in reading, writing, speaking and listening. To this end, all language classes are conducted solely in the target language."

Doesn't sound like a true dual language high school program to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is city wide lottery, horrrrrrible plan. No proximity preference.

Seriously. Half the reason we're going public next year is because of the proximity. Citywide lottery will send people who can afford it to privates, MoCo, charters, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is city wide lottery, horrrrrrible plan. No proximity preference.

Seriously. Half the reason we're going public next year is because of the proximity. Citywide lottery will send people who can afford it to privates, MoCo, charters, etc.

Agreed! And how does city wide lottery jive with less cars and walkable city?

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Anonymous wrote:Does Oyster retain the 50% Spanish dominant lottery uni any scenario?

Yes, Oyster's two lotteries remain unchanged.

With an increased boundary zone in high SES area, there are likely to be more IB Spanish dominant kids. How will the school maintain 50% Spanish dominance, will that still even be a goal anymore?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone is city wide lottery, horrrrrrible plan. No proximity preference.

Seriously. Half the reason we're going public next year is because of the proximity. Citywide lottery will send people who can afford it to privates, MoCo, charters, etc.

Agreed! And how does city wide lottery jive with less cars and walkable city?

Yeah, unfortunately not compatible with those goals of making most trips by biking and walking.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone is city wide lottery, horrrrrrible plan. No proximity preference.

Seriously. Half the reason we're going public next year is because of the proximity. Citywide lottery will send people who can afford it to privates, MoCo, charters, etc.

Agreed! And how does city wide lottery jive with less cars and walkable city?

I agree too. A city wide lottery is a disaster not only for families but for everyone! Can you imagine how worse the traffic will be?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

I agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

I agree with you.

nice angle, but. Don't think that will help the IB families who are predominantly high ses and white.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

I agree with you.

nice angle, but. Don't think that will help the IB families who are predominantly high ses and white.

I don't see your point. (Wanted to add that this doesn't affect me. We're IB for a school that feeds to Deal and Wilson, and that wouldn't change for us under Proposal B. I'm not supporting proposals that make it worse for families at already good schools.)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

I agree with you.

nice angle, but. Don't think that will help the IB families who are predominantly high ses and white.

Is your goal to screw high SES families at Oyster, even if the kids who are really hurt are poor? If so, you sound like a lovely person.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

I agree with you.

I don't follow the PP, they would argue that the underrepresented minorities should maintain access to Wilson?