Proposal B to have Oyster-Adams feed into Cardozo H.S...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

Yeah, by all means be sure to use low income Hispanic kids as pawns in your game to keep high income white kids from being assigned to schools with poor AA kids. The typical NW resident makes the segregationists of 1960s Georgia and 1970s South Boston look good. At least they were honest about their intentions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

Yeah, by all means be sure to use low income Hispanic kids as pawns in your game to keep high income white kids from being assigned to schools with poor AA kids. The typical NW resident makes the segregationists of 1960s Georgia and 1970s South Boston look good. At least they were honest about their intentions.

What an idiotic response. Oyster is an incredibly diverse school that works for its diverse population.

High income white, AA and Latino kids may be "assigned" to Cardozo, but none will go there. No current parent who has a choice will send their kids to Cardozo. Zero. In fact, I expect this plan even being discussed will lead to a collapse in the population of kids that continue to Adams from Oyster next year, with a resulting plunge in test scores. The ONLY effect of this idea will be to screw the people who don't have a choice and trash one of the few DCPS schools that works. Great work DME! Congratulations!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not IB for Oyster Adams but I won't vote for Proposal B because it means the kids will have to go to a worse high school. I don't think that's fair to those families.

Something else to consider: Oyster sends about 1/3 to just under 1/2 of its graduates to Wilson each year. The vast majority of the students in Oyster's graduating classes are Hispanic. So Proposal B would effectively send a largely Hispanic group of kids to the failing Cardozo, where before they could go to Wilson. Many of these kids are (presumably) from lower income immigrant families. So this proposal really harms the most vulnerable students at Oyster--it sounds as if a case for disparate impact can be made against this proposal.

Yeah, by all means be sure to use low income Hispanic kids as pawns in your game to keep high income white kids from being assigned to schools with poor AA kids. The typical NW resident makes the segregationists of 1960s Georgia and 1970s South Boston look good. At least they were honest about their intentions.

What an idiotic response. Oyster is an incredibly diverse school that works for its diverse population.

High income white, AA and Latino kids may be "assigned" to Cardozo, but none will go there. No current parent who has a choice will send their kids to Cardozo. Zero. In fact, I expect this plan even being discussed will lead to a collapse in the population of kids that continue to Adams from Oyster next year, with a resulting plunge in test scores. The ONLY effect of this idea will be to screw the people who don't have a choice and trash one of the few DCPS schools that works. Great work DME! Congratulations!!!

+1

[Anonymous]

IB Oyster-Adams parent here. I was shocked by Cardoza as well. Not because it's bad, but for the same reasons mentioned before, look at the map and look at the language program. Smells like a Red Herring to me. Maybe some people want use it to answer the ultimate question about O-A, as in can it be neighborhood school for neighborhoods split by Conn Ave, and an Education Campus through 8th, and dual immersion with no English track, and a Special Education Inclusion, and offer advanced math, and be on one site, and retain high SES and highly motivated Hispanic families with more charter options for middle school?

Freaking everyone out by suggesting it feed to an English only, low-performing HS could help sell people on the idea of making O-A a citywide magnet with a lot of grandfathering into Wilson.

It's not a serious option. It's a diversionary tactic or someone's idea of a Jedi mind trick.

[Anonymous]

One thing that will happen under any of the scenarios it seems is that the OA Middle school could be in trouble. Rising 5 and current 6 and 7 who currently have access to Deal may move their kid there as to be grandfathered feeder into Wilson. Assuming the dumb ass city wide high school lottery does not go through, it seems the only way to ensure access to Wilson I doubt OA will be grandfathered into Wilson.

[Anonymous]

One of the troubles with OA, is it has so many specialized programs and such a unique setup, that any system-wide changes would be felt strongly.

But I can imagine a high school far away and without bilingual education was not on the radar. Should OA parents lobby for CHEC? That seems like a reasonable tradeoff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the troubles with OA, is it has so many specialized programs and such a unique setup, that any system-wide changes would be felt strongly.

But I can imagine a high school far away and without bilingual education was not on the radar. Should OA parents lobby for CHEC? That seems like a reasonable tradeoff.

CHEC would love that however their academic offerings are not currently in tune with the needs of OA kids

[Anonymous]

What about arguing that Oyster feed to Hardy instead? Not as good as Deal yet, but if Eaton and Oyster feed there too, if could be. Would that be a viable tweak if one of these options seems to be destined to be forced down people's throats?

[Anonymous]

Issue is Adams MS feeding Cardozo HS. Not a thread about Deal/Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing that will happen under any of the scenarios it seems is that the OA Middle school could be in trouble. Rising 5 and current 6 and 7 who currently have access to Deal may move their kid there as to be grandfathered feeder into Wilson. Assuming the dumb ass city wide high school lottery does not go through, it seems the only way to ensure access to Wilson I doubt OA will be grandfathered into Wilson.

Wondering when people will start jumping ship from Adams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing that will happen under any of the scenarios it seems is that the OA Middle school could be in trouble. Rising 5 and current 6 and 7 who currently have access to Deal may move their kid there as to be grandfathered feeder into Wilson. Assuming the dumb ass city wide high school lottery does not go through, it seems the only way to ensure access to Wilson I doubt OA will be grandfathered into Wilson.

Wondering when people will start jumping ship from Adams.

They already do! Don't most Oyster kids peel off to go Deal or private already?

[Anonymous]

No, not most. That's what is so crazy about this idea. The MS has been steadily gaining ground and next year was set to have a huge number of new sixth graders continue from Oyster. I expect this discussion will wreck the work that teachers and parents have been doing to build the MS.

[Anonymous]

^^hopefully parents will give it time before making sudden decisions, so that hard work is not lost! This is all so tough!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:is a complete non-starter. If the DME thinks that Oyster parents are going to now send their children to a high school that is 99% FARMs and has CAS proficient and advanced scores of 33% (math) and 20% (reading), than someone is clearly smoking crack on the job. [b]

Oyster either needs to feed to Wilson (as it has always done) or create a high school in Ward 3 with a specialized language /IB track.

Whoever gets my vote for mayor will need to denounce this ridiculous proposal. Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/proposed-elementary-school-zones/

Stop disrespecting our council member from Ward 8 and his many supporters in the DC government!

[Anonymous]

Watch property values in Woodley Park go south.