For anything contemplating Madlax lacrosse

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. I am SO GLAD my kid isn't interested in lacrosse.

Seriously! I've never been happier to have a SN kid who will never play a team sport. If it means I can avoid all of these people, I happily will. Oh, and this Coach guy sounds horrible.

He is, and although he runs a successful business it doesn't make up for being a jackass. He has personally dampened my love for the sport

[Anonymous]

LOL. One of the clubs they bought - Chesapeake Rock - just pulled out and cancelled the acquisition.

This may be the first domino to fall. If I were a Madlax parent, I would have my son tryout for multiple teams this fall. Lots of kids are starting to hit the exits, and it could snowball into an avalanche.

[Anonymous]

Kids play with Madlax because they are talented and want to play with other talented kids. It offers something many rec programs simply can't. Kids don't necessarily play with Madlax because of Cabell. To many of them, Cabell's public meltdown is embarrassing, but it doesn't affect the bonds they have formed with their teammates, and it has zero to do with how they play. At some age group levels, it is the best program around. So, as a parent, I can understand the desire to leave the program on principle, but in the end, is it fair to take a kid away from a team he loves? For me, the answer is no. We can put up with Cabell for another year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids play with Madlax because they are talented and want to play with other talented kids. It offers something many rec programs simply can't. Kids don't necessarily play with Madlax because of Cabell. To many of them, Cabell's public meltdown is embarrassing, but it doesn't affect the bonds they have formed with their teammates, and it has zero to do with how they play. At some age group levels, it is the best program around. So, as a parent, I can understand the desire to leave the program on principle, but in the end, is it fair to take a kid away from a team he loves? For me, the answer is no. We can put up with Cabell for another year.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids play with Madlax because they are talented and want to play with other talented kids. It offers something many rec programs simply can't. Kids don't necessarily play with Madlax because of Cabell. To many of them, Cabell's public meltdown is embarrassing, but it doesn't affect the bonds they have formed with their teammates, and it has zero to do with how they play. At some age group levels, it is the best program around. So, as a parent, I can understand the desire to leave the program on principle, but in the end, is it fair to take a kid away from a team he loves? For me, the answer is no. We can put up with Cabell for another year.

Comparing it to a rec team is not apples to apples. You need to compare it to a club like Blackwolf or VLC.

Both of those clubs offer superior teams at most levels. There are no monthly fees holding you hostage, either. Madlax is also about 30% more expensive, too. Nonprofit clubs pour the money for coaches and reinvestment. Madlax is a for profit company where the money goes to profit margin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids play with Madlax because they are talented and want to play with other talented kids. It offers something many rec programs simply can't. Kids don't necessarily play with Madlax because of Cabell. To many of them, Cabell's public meltdown is embarrassing, but it doesn't affect the bonds they have formed with their teammates, and it has zero to do with how they play. At some age group levels, it is the best program around. So, as a parent, I can understand the desire to leave the program on principle, but in the end, is it fair to take a kid away from a team he loves? For me, the answer is no. We can put up with Cabell for another year.

Curious. If your kids are what makes the experience so good, why don't you move your kids to any of the other clubs (VLC, Blackwolf Next Level) and have the positive experience w/o all of the baggage you describe (public meltdown, embarrassing, etc.)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids play with Madlax because they are talented and want to play with other talented kids. It offers something many rec programs simply can't. Kids don't necessarily play with Madlax because of Cabell. To many of them, Cabell's public meltdown is embarrassing, but it doesn't affect the bonds they have formed with their teammates, and it has zero to do with how they play. At some age group levels, it is the best program around. So, as a parent, I can understand the desire to leave the program on principle, but in the end, is it fair to take a kid away from a team he loves? For me, the answer is no. We can put up with Cabell for another year.

So basically you are saying to your kid, "Hey, the owner of Madlax threatens parents and kids who he feels wronged them. But he's not mad at us, so we'll just keep you at Madlax. As long as it's not happening to us, it's all good."

No, thanks. That's not the environment I want my kid around, and those are not the principles I teach our kids. If one turns a blind eye to an injustice or wrong, one is helping to enable such wrongs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids play with Madlax because they are talented and want to play with other talented kids. It offers something many rec programs simply can't. Kids don't necessarily play with Madlax because of Cabell. To many of them, Cabell's public meltdown is embarrassing, but it doesn't affect the bonds they have formed with their teammates, and it has zero to do with how they play. At some age group levels, it is the best program around. So, as a parent, I can understand the desire to leave the program on principle, but in the end, is it fair to take a kid away from a team he loves? For me, the answer is no. We can put up with Cabell for another year.

This is Cabell or a friend of his posting, in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Or a PR firm he hired.

[Anonymous]

I' m guessing folks can "vote with their feet." Together. Similar to successful groups in law firms that bolt as a unit to a competitor taking the talent along.

[Anonymous]

I am not a PR firm or friend of Cabell - and I'm not Cabell. I'm a parent of a lacrosse player who has been with (basically) the same group of boys playing Madlax for several years. VLC does not have the talent at his age group and from what we have observed, they have coaching inconsistencies that have hurt them. Talk to a parent of a VLC U13AA/rising U15AA player. Blackwolf is a great program from what I understand. The cost is about the same. My son was invited to play and has considered playing for the 2018 team. But what it comes down to for him right now is that he is having a great time playing with a great group of boys and he has made friendships that are important to him. To me that is what team sports are about. My son is old enough to form his own opinions about people and their behavior. We have discussed what happened, but I don't feel the need to preach to him about Cabell's bad behavior; he is able to see it for what it is. We have left the decision to him. If he wanted to leave madlax because of what Cabell did, that would be fine with me. This is a great life lesson for him as he will unfortunately encounter people like Cabell his whole life. He sees that Cabell is imperfect and human and capable of embarrassing himself by making big mistakes. I understand that some people get more outraged over this kind of behavior. This is just our way of handling it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not a PR firm or friend of Cabell - and I'm not Cabell. I'm a parent of a lacrosse player who has been with (basically) the same group of boys playing Madlax for several years. VLC does not have the talent at his age group and from what we have observed, they have coaching inconsistencies that have hurt them. Talk to a parent of a VLC U13AA/rising U15AA player. Blackwolf is a great program from what I understand. The cost is about the same. My son was invited to play and has considered playing for the 2018 team. But what it comes down to for him right now is that he is having a great time playing with a great group of boys and he has made friendships that are important to him. To me that is what team sports are about. My son is old enough to form his own opinions about people and their behavior. We have discussed what happened, but I don't feel the need to preach to him about Cabell's bad behavior; he is able to see it for what it is. We have left the decision to him. If he wanted to leave madlax because of what Cabell did, that would be fine with me. This is a great life lesson for him as he will unfortunately encounter people like Cabell his whole life. He sees that Cabell is imperfect and human and capable of embarrassing himself by making big mistakes. I understand that some people get more outraged over this kind of behavior. This is just our way of handling it.

I still don't understand why your team doesn't move to another club AS A GROUP. You say other clubs don't have the "talent" but if you ALL left together and joined another club, you would, by definition be taking the "talent" with you, right? Not judging your decision necessarily, but it does sound somewhat convoluted. Why do you believe that you must play for that particular organization in order for your boys to play together.

Your decision, however, suggests that these things are "self selecting." Parents willing to accept certain behavior will gravitate toward (or remain with) a certain club. Others who find that behavior unacceptable will not go there (or will leave). You are the company you keep.

[Anonymous]

Madlax is not the same price as Blackwolf, VLC and other local clubs. Look at the contract you have to sign that commits you to a six month monthly fee with penalties for early termination.

[Anonymous]

Word on the street that several groups of parents at different levels are talking/organizing about moving to different clubs because of this fiasco.

[Anonymous]

He sees that Cabell is imperfect and human and capable of embarrassing himself by making big mistakes.

With all due respect, your focus is in the wrong place here. "Embarrassing himself?" How about "bullying a child?"