AAP Expansion and Haycock - Elizabeth Schultz amendment

[Anonymous]

It will be a sad day at Haycock tomorrow for both sides as the kids realize that they are losing their friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will be a sad day at Haycock tomorrow for both sides as the kids realize that they are losing their friends.

If the parents are concerned about this, they don't live that far apart. None of the affected kids can live more than 15 minutes drive time apart from each other.

It's a tough situation, and it's unfortunate that it has turned into a parent v. parent thing, when the real problem, as usual, is with the administrators and politicians that can't discern demographic trends until they are run over by them.

It sucks for the parents who will move their kids to a third school in 3 years. It would have sucked for the parents, like me, who walk their kids to school in the morning from their homes four blocks away. There simply was never going to be a pain-free outcome.

Look, this is going to sound trite, but I can't solve the problems Cluster 2 parents are dealing with as a result of failed political leadership any more than I can solve the problems in Greece, or Florida, or in the District. But I did what I could for my kids. My home is a $550K dump on a dumpy little lot. But it came with Haycock, and thankfully, aside from the overcrowding issues my kids are dealing with right now, I've received that for which I bargained and paid for.

One last thing: there's a reason Fairfax schools have the reputation they have. It's fricking amazing how engaged and active the parents are around here. It's too bad we don't have leaders whose talents and passions match those of the people whose lives they play with so carelessly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be a sad day at Haycock tomorrow for both sides as the kids realize that they are losing their friends.

If the parents are concerned about this, they don't live that far apart. None of the affected kids can live more than 15 minutes drive time apart from each other.

It's a tough situation, and it's unfortunate that it has turned into a parent v. parent thing, when the real problem, as usual, is with the administrators and politicians that can't discern demographic trends until they are run over by them.

It sucks for the parents who will move their kids to a third school in 3 years. It would have sucked for the parents, like me, who walk their kids to school in the morning from their homes four blocks away. There simply was never going to be a pain-free outcome.

Look, this is going to sound trite, but I can't solve the problems Cluster 2 parents are dealing with as a result of failed political leadership any more than I can solve the problems in Greece, or Florida, or in the District. But I did what I could for my kids. My home is a $550K dump on a dumpy little lot. But it came with Haycock, and thankfully, aside from the overcrowding issues my kids are dealing with right now, I've received that for which I bargained and paid for.

One last thing: there's a reason Fairfax schools have the reputation they have. It's fricking amazing how engaged and active the parents are around here. It's too bad we don't have leaders whose talents and passions match those of the people whose lives they play with so carelessly.

Aren't you done yet?
Let it go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be a sad day at Haycock tomorrow for both sides as the kids realize that they are losing their friends.

If the parents are concerned about this, they don't live that far apart. None of the affected kids can live more than 15 minutes drive time apart from each other.

It's a tough situation, and it's unfortunate that it has turned into a parent v. parent thing, when the real problem, as usual, is with the administrators and politicians that can't discern demographic trends until they are run over by them.

It sucks for the parents who will move their kids to a third school in 3 years. It would have sucked for the parents, like me, who walk their kids to school in the morning from their homes four blocks away. There simply was never going to be a pain-free outcome.

Look, this is going to sound trite, but I can't solve the problems Cluster 2 parents are dealing with as a result of failed political leadership any more than I can solve the problems in Greece, or Florida, or in the District. But I did what I could for my kids. My home is a $550K dump on a dumpy little lot. But it came with Haycock, and thankfully, aside from the overcrowding issues my kids are dealing with right now, I've received that for which I bargained and paid for.

One last thing: there's a reason Fairfax schools have the reputation they have. It's fricking amazing how engaged and active the parents are around here. It's too bad we don't have leaders whose talents and passions match those of the people whose lives they play with so carelessly.

The "I bought a house here" routine is a little silly. Save it for next year when it's time to kick the rest of the schools out of the center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be a sad day at Haycock tomorrow for both sides as the kids realize that they are losing their friends.

If the parents are concerned about this, they don't live that far apart. None of the affected kids can live more than 15 minutes drive time apart from each other.

It's a tough situation, and it's unfortunate that it has turned into a parent v. parent thing, when the real problem, as usual, is with the administrators and politicians that can't discern demographic trends until they are run over by them.

It sucks for the parents who will move their kids to a third school in 3 years. It would have sucked for the parents, like me, who walk their kids to school in the morning from their homes four blocks away. There simply was never going to be a pain-free outcome.

Look, this is going to sound trite, but I can't solve the problems Cluster 2 parents are dealing with as a result of failed political leadership any more than I can solve the problems in Greece, or Florida, or in the District. But I did what I could for my kids. My home is a $550K dump on a dumpy little lot. But it came with Haycock, and thankfully, aside from the overcrowding issues my kids are dealing with right now, I've received that for which I bargained and paid for.

One last thing: there's a reason Fairfax schools have the reputation they have. It's fricking amazing how engaged and active the parents are around here. It's too bad we don't have leaders whose talents and passions match those of the people whose lives they play with so carelessly.

The "I bought a house here" routine is a little silly. Save it for next year when it's time to kick the rest of the schools out of the center.

Crush those sour grapes early and often.

[Anonymous]

As a Haycock parent, is it too much to ask you all to be civil and sensitive to those who have to leave? It will be a hard transition for the kids and families, and for the second time in so many years for some. Try to put yourself in their shoes. Less gloating. More compassion. Try not to embarrass our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Haycock parent, is it too much to ask you all to be civil and sensitive to those who have to leave? It will be a hard transition for the kids and families, and for the second time in so many years for some. Try to put yourself in their shoes. Less gloating. More compassion. Try not to embarrass our school.

It does feel kind of like the day after an election (I guess it was, in it's own way). The candidates trashed each other for months and months, and the very next day the both both of them, victor and vanquished alike, are supposed to be magnanimous and reconciliation.

Everyone knows it's an act. They still hate each other.

But I do wish people on both sides of this would assign blame where it belongs. In boundary parents didn't ask for their school to be overcrowded. Cluster two parents were never treated fairly, and in the end, they were again treated like a step-child. It's BS.

But what do other parents have to do with any of this besides wanting the best for their children?

Again, it's the administrators that failed. This problem didn't sneak up on anyone. Years ago, someone looked at the data, made some choices, and simply said of Cluster 2: "Man, it's gonna suck to be them."

Funny thing though... How many Cluster 2 parent (or Cluster 1 parents, for that matter) do you think are going to give a rat's behind about any of this once their kids age out of the situation? We all know there'll be another cycle of this garbage, but the vast majority of us will be long past caring.

In a way, we get the leaders we deserve.

How many of y'all voted in the last School Board elections? How many of y'all even knew who the candidates were?

And now we're gonna piss and moan?

I guess that's all that's left.

[Anonymous]

Sucks to be a kid who started at Freedom Hill, then went to Archer for AAP in grade 3, then went to Haycock (via Lemon Road redistricting) for AAP in grade 4, and now will go to Lemon Road for AAP in grade 5.

[Anonymous]

Yes, PP. I felt like Dr. Dale was really dancing around that issue last night. Schultz asked the direct question about what is done if the school is closed to transfers and he didn't ask it directly. I took that to mean that they actually do pupil place at schools closed for transfer (as is evident on the Haycock dashboard). I sure hope that's right. It would be a travesty to move those children again because FCPS can't get its SH&T together. I think it's only 4-6 kids.

[Anonymous]

From conversations with board members, pupil placement for those students (there are four in the fourth grade) would be easy, but done on an individual basis. There are not any in the third grade because the Freedom Hill Boundary change didn't happen until this academic year.

[Anonymous]

Those families might want to move to LR anyway. Haycock is going to be a mess for the next 2 years or so while they do the renovation.

[Anonymous]

I am in boundary Haycock parent who thinks this is extremely unfortunate. I don't think this is right and I am very sorry for the Haycock students and their families who are being moved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, PP. I felt like Dr. Dale was really dancing around that issue last night. Schultz asked the direct question about what is done if the school is closed to transfers and he didn't ask it directly. I took that to mean that they actually do pupil place at schools closed for transfer (as is evident on the Haycock dashboard). I sure hope that's right. It would be a travesty to move those children again because FCPS can't get its SH&T together. I think it's only 4-6 kids.

FCPS should have done a large scale boundary process in fall 2012 including AAP. Not left AAP instruction and facilities under Carol Horn who now for some elementary and middle schools has a scope of authority covering almost 35% of students. She runs the locations, curriculum, facilities, and buses.

Her program is putting a squeeze on budgets and facilties. Those ex Freedom Hill base school students are actually better off than the crew left in the overcrowded Haycok for that renovation. They get a place that is renovated with a new addition. They get Kilmer and Marshall. I suspect the Cluster 2 parents and board members will bounce out Cluster1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Haycock parent, is it too much to ask you all to be civil and sensitive to those who have to leave? It will be a hard transition for the kids and families, and for the second time in so many years for some. Try to put yourself in their shoes. Less gloating. More compassion. Try not to embarrass our school.

+1. My child's best friend will be sent to Lemon Road next year. We are sad at our house too. No gloating or salt in the wound, please from my fellow base parents. Please remember that those families are ALSO "Haycock families" until June!

[Anonymous]

Thank you, 7:59 and 7:44. This is a very sad day and we need civility and kindness. We have been without those things at Haycock all year.